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Kante was actually a B2B until he went to Leicester. They made him a DM there. Then Sarri made him a winger (lol).

Point is, he just as good as a B2B or DM. Winger is stretching it... but he's better at it than Lucas.

Reason he can do it is that he's good technically. Not flashy... but very clean.

I’m posting this here as I don’t know where else would be appropriate.

The club has reached a deal with Getafe for a loan of Brahim. The problem is Brahim doesn’t want to go, as he feels he will get his opportunity and he can impress if given the chance!

That is the problem at the club these days. They sign these kids on potential and the kids are under the impression they are developed, as opposed to potential and they are equally convinced they can impress given the opportunity.

We’ve seen it with Llorente, Ceballos, Vinicius, Rodrygo and others. Somehow the club has to be more honest with these kids and handlers and tell them they need to develop more to make it, whether it ultimately is with Real Madrid or elsewhere. In the vast majority of these cases, they are better off out on loan to do this development, plus the club itself will be better off with more veterans (which could be returnees after loan spells) in the backup positions.

I know the cases of Vinicius and Rodrygo are slightly different as they want them close by to guide their adjustment to Europe and professional futbol, but I would say if they don’t “make it” this season, they also should go out on loan.

In the case of Brahim, the club got him because City wasn’t giving him the opportunities he wanted. It is obviously in these kids’ heads that they are already developed. As I said, the club has to be more honest with these kids and their handlers.

And speaking about loans, the club has to be smarter on who they make loans with ensuring the prospects get the “opportunities” they need. The loan deals with Lunin and Vallejo are the latest examples of kids stuck on bench!

Nobody worthwhile will guarantee playing time for our loanees.  As with any club, they have to earn it.  Lunin and Vallejo didn't.  

If we want to make demands, any club worth making a loan would just pass on the players.  Nobody in top leagues certainly... likey 2nd division teams or second-tier leagues.

Nobody's entitled to anything.

Even Diaz has zero guarantees he will play.  He needs to prove himself better than the other players... and even more so if he's a loaner with no buyout.  Why would a club develop a player for us?  The point is that there's a much higher likelihood they'll get a chance on a team with less talent than Real Madrid. We also need to include a hefty buyout if we bring them back so it's worthwhile for those clubs to play our loanees.

Sports, I believe you are missing what I was saying. I’m essentially agreeing with prior posts from you, that most of these “potentials” should be going out on loan rather than riding the bench in Madrid.

I believe the problem, I was referring to, is although we don’t know what team personnel are whispering in their ears, these kids clearly feel they are ready for prime time, when it’s clear they are not. I’m just saying the club should be more honest  with them and their handlers.

As to the loan deals, of course nothing can be guaranteed, but club can first of all see what the chances are that these kids will play a lot. If they can’t get that, then look at second level teams. For example, they sent Lunin first to Leganes who had an established veteran portero. He doesn’t play then in summer, plays in a top class youth tournament and is named top portero of tournament. So what do they do, but send him to a new team that also has an established veteran! If he goes to a 2nd level team, like the rumors suggest (to my home town team Oviedo) and plays well, the better the chances of him getting a loan to a better team next season where he can play.  At this current rate, he is still years away from being an option for Madrid. (And yet there were several on this forum suggesting, he should have been the backup at Real Madrid this season!)

As to noone will develop players for us, that’s a bizarre  statement even for you. It happens all the time. Just for example look at Odegaard, Achraf or previously with Carvajal. Theses clubs ask for the loan because they feel they can use them and if they are developing they get more and more minutes!

Kante backing up Casemiro

I'm not saying Casemiro is nobody... Kante is just better (he's best as a B2B and you really shouldn't call him a DM because that's selling him short).  He played DM with Ranieri and Conte...  but then Conte and then Sarri used him as a B2B.  So he's a CM in every sense of the word.  Can specialize if you need him to.  But he has the skillset for basically all the midfield roles.

The way it could work is to put Kante and Valverde on each side and then have more of CAM down the middle.....  like Odegaard.

Kante-Valverde-Odegaard would be damn sexy.