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Post by DeviAngel on Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:01 am

According to Agresti, SKY, Sportitalia etc. Bonucci is close to coming back in a cash + player deal for Higuain.

Sell Rugani for 40m, Get 30+Bonucci for Higuain. Sell Pjaca with option to buy back to some team for 20m (I would keep him thou), sell Sturaro for 15-20m. Sign Savic or Pogba if the rumor are true. And we are worlds best team.

Now time to wake up Shocked

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Post by marottalad on Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:25 am

@DeviAngel wrote:According to Agresti, SKY, Sportitalia etc. Bonucci is close to coming back in a cash + player deal for Higuain.

Sell Rugani for 40m, Get 30+Bonucci for Higuain. Sell Pjaca with option to buy back to some team for 20m (I would keep him thou), sell Sturaro for 15-20m. Sign Savic or Pogba if the rumor are true. And we are worlds best team.

Now time to wake up Shocked


What ever just get a good cm hahaha
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Post by juvealbanian on Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:32 am

Latest rumors :

Higuain to Milan for 30m + Bonucci (wtf?)
Rugani to Chelsea for 45-50m
Sturaro to a EPL club for 15-20m
Pjanic to Man.City for 90-100m


Pjanic to be replaced by Pogba or Milinkovic-Savic


What do you guys think? What if Higgy-Bonucci swap really happens?

btw Devi welcome back bro!
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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:44 pm

I can see a Bonucci-Higuain switch happening, if the following happens:

1. Rugani is sold to Chelsea
2. There are no other offers for Higuain or he is set on Milan

It would solve two needs for us: moving Higuain and acquiring a central defender, if Rugani leaves.

I have mixed feelings about it, really I don't want to have a serious opinion on it until/if it happens.

I don't think we can replace Pjanic with Sergej or Pogba with our setup. In any case, I see Sergej being more likely, especially if we are flush with cash from these sales.
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Post by salmano9 on Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:25 pm

If we loose Pjanic, we still have Emre Can who is a deep lying playmaker. The only thing we would loose with Pjanic is a world class set piece specialist. I think his free kicks are more accurate than Dybala's. If we sell Pjanic for 100m+ either Savic or Pogba are good options. As Luca says, SMS is the easier option because of his wages. Unless Pogba sacrafices his wages, then it will be difficult to bring him back. SMS however, will be more expensive imo in terms of transfer fee.

I wouldn't mind the return of Leo and Gonzalo going the other way, but many supporters will frown upon this move. Many want an apology from Leo and some do not forgive his move to Milan.

With Rugani and Gonzalo out, it will be interesting to see what Juve will do.
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Post by S on Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:18 pm

Kill the Caldara rumours, kill it with fire !!
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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:20 pm

You think we would sell Caldara in the same window we announce his arrival?
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Post by S on Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:44 pm

Leonardo Bonucci to Juve is no longer just an idea but a real hypothesis. Bonucci has a genuine desire to return to Juve. Milan are interested in Higuain. Rugani or Caldara could be sold if Bonucci returns. [Di Marzio]
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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:49 pm

Well, pardon my last post Proud

It will sadden me to lose either Rugani or Caldara to be honest but, assuming it's Rugani, it'll basically be a swap of Higuain and Rugani for Ronaldo and Bonucci, quite unreal
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Post by Warrior on Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:50 pm

Marketing-Dybala-Douglas
Pogba-Can-Pjanic
Darmian-Chiellini-Bonucci-Cancelo
Sczsesny

Ouf !! Imagine Pogba and Bonucci back, 2 guys most of us never wanted to leave. We have a project to finish Molenation
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Post by S on Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:10 pm

I just pray not to see the guy who played a grand total of 400 mins last season become our starting LB
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Post by S on Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:58 pm



wow absolute madness
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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:15 pm

[Romeo Agresti] Marotta, Paratici & Leonardo are meeting in Milano. Negotiations for Bonucci's return to Juve & Higuain's move to Milan have begun.

I want to go on record and say that I will be deeply saddened if we lose Caldara or Rugani.

I also feel that in these two seasons, Higuain has been an unsung hero and an overlooked star but with Ronaldo's arrival, and our group of forwards, he is the most logical departure. Grazie Pipita.

As for Leo, I will wait to comment.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:51 pm

I want to keep Caldara out of the 2.
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Post by lucianomoggi on Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:38 pm

C Ronaldo transfer make every other transfer look easy but i dont think so ,

Ronaldo is worth all the money just like Higuain but other players i would say Pogba one could make sense because he adds physical presence but i dont see Juventus spending too much on players who dont score goals

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Post by juvealbanian on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:19 pm

Looks like there are not many interested teams in Higgy because he will be quite costly (60m + high wages).
Right now Milan can't afford him but they badly need a striker of Pipita's level.
They could simply offer us Bonucci + 30m and be done with it but they will need a new CB and they are poor af , they wont spend anymore.

These rumors of Higgy and Caldara going to Milan for Bonucci + cash make me sick because you know Milan wont offer more than 40m in cash , they don't have more than that imo.

Plus Bonucci was sold for 40m and now after a shitty year his value is no more than 30m.
We are about to sell Rugani for 50m and Caldara is worth that much if not more. Pipita is fairly valued 60-65m.

So just by a simple math we are sending 110m to Milan and getting Bonucci (30) + 30/40 cash?

If that happens there should be riots on Turin.

If they want Caldara they can have him on dry loan or buy him for 20m while we have buy-back set at 25m.Our rules or gtfo simple as that.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:37 pm

Thumbs up Thumbs up

Bonucci + cash vs Higuain is a fair trade. Including one of Caldara/Rugani in the deal is just wrong. Caldara just arrived, no way he moves. Rugani will be the one who's (hopefully not) sacrificed. The good ol buy back clause is providential help for that matter.

The idea of Rugani playing for Milan makes me sick, but if you tell me some foreign club is willing to pay 50 millions it's a no brainer imo.
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Post by juvealbanian on Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:57 am

I don't like too see our management rush these deals with Milan. While it can indicate that we want to make quick cash and bring another quality player (midfielder) I think we should wait.
Right now Higuain is the only high profile striker that is available in the market.We should wait for a team (most likely Real) to spend big so we will have more teams interested to sign him.

If let's say Real brings Hazard and Icardi that will automaticly generate lot of cash for both Inter & Chelsea who will surely be more interested along with Milan.
If Real goes for Lewandowski or Kane there is still Higuain who can be first choice to replace them.

Right now it seems difficult to "get rid" of Pipita but eventually I'm pretty sure we'll have more interested teams.

Like I said above I don't like we are rushing things but imo it indicates we'll go for another top player without having to sell Pjanic & Sandro (most likely SMS).
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Post by rincon on Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:01 am

We don't need the money to sign another top player. We need the money because the club is deep in the red right now. We made a deal worth roughly 340m for Ronaldo. Plus Cancelo, Can, and Perin and we haven't sold anyone from the first team.
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Post by marottalad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:16 am

@rincon wrote:We don't need the money to sign another top player. We need the money because the club is deep in the red right now. We made a deal worth roughly 340m for Ronaldo. Plus Cancelo, Can, and Perin and we haven't sold anyone from the first team.


I agree but I am hoping we can get someone good in once we sell a lot of players also i am for selling pjanic because of bentancur as long as we get another top cm in that plays differently to pjanic.

But at least we are trying and taking a gamble it makes it more exciting because if it pays off our club will be transformed economically into the levels of barca,madrid,bayern or very close to it. all we need is one or two cl titles and we needed this gamble to get there otherwise i feel like we would slowly decline into mediocrity in europe.
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Post by Luca on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:28 am

You’re asking a lot of Bentancur if you think he’s ready to fill a potential gap left by Pjanic. He only played a handful of games last season. I don’t think you add a player like Ronaldo, sell your best midfielder and ask a 20 year old to do the job
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Post by marottalad on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:43 am

@Luca wrote:You’re asking a lot of Bentancur if you think he’s ready to fill a potential gap left by Pjanic. He only played a handful of games last season. I don’t think you add a player like Ronaldo, sell your best midfielder and ask a 20 year old to do the job


He doesn't haveto be as good as Pjanic just good enough to play with can and X ball carrying cm. With our defence and attack we dont need a world class midfield just a midfield that is good enough to win the CL.... just look at what liverpool did last season playing with henderson in midfield lol

Inters midfield that won the cl wasn't anything special bar snejder but they worked well as a unit and it was just good enough.. we would haveto replicate something like that I think
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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:45 pm

fans dont understand that top clubs like Juventus play fluid formations switching from one to another such as 4231 when defending yes but when attacking you get 3412 or 3142 when attacking, a specially if opponent park the bus

because of that there has to be versatile players to fill the needs such as Sandro overlaping on the wing , Ronaldo drifting wide and cutting inside ,

this is what makes Pogba a special player because he can play box-to-box , he defends good and he attacks good he is a DM and AM qualities,

i would sacrifice both Dybala and Pjanic just to take back Pogba and play 4231


------------------- Higuain --------
Ronaldo ----- Pogba ------ Cuadrado
--------------- Can -- Matuidi -------
Sandro - Chiell -- Benatia -- Cancelo

this my friends is a real team,




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Post by Luca on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:20 pm

If we lose Caldara for Bonucci then I'm going to be depressed
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Post by juvealbanian on Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:39 pm

@lucianomoggi wrote:fans dont understand that top clubs like Juventus play fluid formations switching from one to another such as 4231 when defending yes but when attacking you get 3412 or 3142 when attacking, a specially if opponent park the bus

because of that there has to be versatile players to fill the needs such as Sandro overlaping on the wing , Ronaldo drifting wide and cutting inside ,

this is what makes Pogba a special player because he can play box-to-box , he defends good and he attacks good he is a DM and AM qualities,

i would sacrifice both Dybala and Pjanic just to take back Pogba and play 4231


------------------- Higuain --------
Ronaldo ----- Pogba ------ Cuadrado
--------------- Can -- Matuidi -------
Sandro - Chiell -- Benatia -- Cancelo

this my friends is a real team,




First of all to sacrifice both Pjanic & Dybala for Pogba would be stupid. I wouldn't sacrifice Dybala and I'm not sure if I would sacrifice Pjanic either.
It seems like you think Pogba is the same player before he left us but thats wrong.He has become a bit lazy and doesn't run that much.

Ronaldo wont play as a pure winger because he simply can't. He will be a CF and maybe shifting positions with Dybala & Costa through the games. Or we play Mario as CF so he can do the dirty work to allow Cristiano to play wide.

Our team is perfectly fine as it is. We need to sell now and Beppe will see if he can give the team a final touch.

I will gladly include Bonucci on a swap deal with Higuain + cash and might even sell Caldara with a buy-back option. That would be a great deal for us as Caldara will be a starter for Milan and grow while we take Bonucci.
Sandro,Spina,Chiellini,Bonucci,Benatia,Barzagli,Cancelo,De Sciglio is fantastic group.

I really doubt we'll do anything else. I'd rather spend less to bring a good CM (Strootman,Kessie) then sell big to buy big (Pjanic for Pogba).
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Post by S on Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:43 pm

@Luca wrote:If we lose Caldara for Bonucci then I'm going to be depressed


I'm getting a serious migraine by just thinking about it

What an atrociously stupid piece of business that would be. Pure madness. Please be untrue.
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