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Post by Eman Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:33 pm

We missed out on a lot of money with our transfer dealings over the past few years. I'm sure we will have some money by the summer but we can't afford to be ripped off anymore.

Unfortunately this loan business nearly guarantees that we're not signing a CB in January. Top CBs are at a premium and I don't see any club just loaning one away unless our option to buy is very high, which obviously won't be the case. Our one hope is Benatia since he wants out of Juve, but Juve is in no dire need to do anything on that front as they can easily let him rot on their bench until needed.

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Post by Jay29 Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:38 pm

FWIW, Banega is currently playing for Sevilla in the Copa.

Denis Suarez is on the bench for Barca.

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Post by Sina Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:56 pm

Sign players before they get hyped at senior level@mislintat


Maxence Caqueret is another
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:26 pm

Denis Suarez would be a good signing btw.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:18 pm

Mid Jan

Suarez still making barca bench.

Not sure this transfer is going anywhere.
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Post by Sina Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:56 pm

Suarez and Iwobi +Kolasinac as main sources of creativity ????
if we sign him on a permanent deal i legit hope we finish outside top 6 !!
there should be no way back for people that make these decisions
have had enough shite transfers in recent years
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:10 pm

We have no choice. It's EL or bust my friend. And to get the elite calibre players we need the CL

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Post by Sina Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:24 am

Sina wrote:Club Not having money to spend might as well be blessing in disguise
prevent us from more stupid signings

close the window already unless there is smart under the radar signing


No thanks to D.Suarez or Carrasco unless its 6 month loan without an option/obligation to buy




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Post by Sina Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:34 pm



would take,price wont be reasonable though
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Post by Jay29 Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:43 pm

Petr Cech announces he's retiring at the end of the season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46875854

Add a new keeper to the list.

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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:56 pm

We could try to get Keylor Navas to provide competition for Leno and be a mentor for him.
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Post by Twoism Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:25 pm

He will command quite a fee though, feel like we will go full budget on less important role like gk.
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Post by Jay29 Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm

There are some concerning rumours that Mislintat is going to join Bayern after a falling out at Arsenal.

It's at the speculative stage at the moment, as the source(s) appear to be prominent bloggers (Arseblog and Le Grove, specifically). The Independent have picked up on it are citing sources "close to Bayern and Arsenal".

The story is that Mislintat has made some good recommendations that the club aren't following up on, and that Emery has been given a bigger role in recruitment than he anticipated.

I think that regardless of the situation at Arsenal, Bayern is an attractive offer and have every reason to believe they can get him. Whatever the reason for him leaving would be, it's damaging for Arsenal.

There have been reports about Arsenal hiring Edu as a sporting director-type figure, so perhaps there's even more restructuring on the way? Either way, losing two prominent members at executive level in the space of a few months doesn't suggest the club is pulling in the right direction...

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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:42 pm

Absolute shambles mate.

The prospect of Sven finding some hidden gems was the only hope I had for this club and even he's reportedly going.

We're fucked if this is true.
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Post by Sina Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:12 pm

Makes sense,these recent links don't seem to be his type of signings at all
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Post by AnJl Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:18 pm

If these tumors turn out to be true, I wan6 Kronke's head on a stick outside the stadium.

Enough of this bullshit. Seriously, there needs to be serious accountability on this. Everyone hid behind Wenger, but they cant hide anymore.

One of the richest clubs in the world and we cant even sign NEEDED players?

Fuck off.
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Post by boyzis Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Emery should have a role in determining the type of players he wants to work with. Sven and Emery should work together. If emery wants to buy a wide player sven should assist him in finding the player the coach wants. It shouldn't be an one direction however its very important that the head coach has a role in recruitment.

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Post by Jay29 Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:21 pm

The Telegraph's report on this has a few more details:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/15/sven-mislintats-arsenal-future-doubt-reports-former-midfielder/

They're claiming that Arsenal are looking for a Sporting Director (and have offered Edu the job) and that Mislintat's influence at the club has been decreasing since Gazidis went to Milan.

So it seems like we are restructuring again, and that the role Mislintat expected he would have is changing. Almost like there's too many people involved in the player recruitment process and he's feeling undermined.

It's a massive problem if Emery wants one type of player but Mislintat wants another. Banega and Denis Suarez seem like Emery players and don't fit the profile of signing Mislintat has been looking to make (Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Torreira - young players, basically). That's a fundamental difference the club can't afford to have.

If that's the case, it raises questions about what the vision is at the club. Emery was presumably hired because he shared the club's vision. But now that doesn't seem the case.

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Post by Sina Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:22 pm

in hindsight,maybe we should have taken a chance on Maddison and Issa Diop
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:23 pm

Not sure who Sven Mislintat thinks he is but why should his opinion have priority over Emery's
Mislintat is just a scout, he's never been a DoF, he should know his place IMO

Jay29 wrote:
It's a massive problem if Emery wants one type of player but Mislintat wants another. Banega and Denis Suarez seem like Emery players and don't fit the profile of signing Mislintat has been looking to make (Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Torreira - young players, basically). That's a fundamental difference the club can't afford to have.


All joking aside, I wouldn't see this 'fundamental difference' as such a unsurmountable problem.
Mislintat is a scout and long term squad builder, his focus always has been finding so called 'gems', i.e. player that are not ready and therefore cheap, but will become very good and expensive.
But that cannot be the be all end all of putting together a successful team.
That the coach would also want players that have experience, and that he knows he can rely on, is only natural and there SHOULD be a way to design the collaboration between the coach and the scout in a way that the team becomes a fruitful mixture of the two approaches.

A DoF or sporting CEO should moderate this compromise.


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Post by Jay29 Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Not sure who Sven Mislintat thinks he is but why should his opinion have priority over Emery's
Mislintat is just a scout, he's never been a DoF, he should know his place IMO

He's officially the Head of Recruitment and was one of the three men who hired Emery.

He's literally above Emery on the totem pole at the club. Naturally, you'd assume his opinion would count for more.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:29 pm

Jay29 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Not sure who Sven Mislintat thinks he is but why should his opinion have priority over Emery's
Mislintat is just a scout, he's never been a DoF, he should know his place IMO

He's officially the Head of Recruitment and was one of the three men who hired Emery.

He's literally above Emery on the totem pole at the club. Naturally, you'd assume his opinion would count for more.


^see my expanded post above. But I wonder why a head of recruitment would be above the manager in hierarchy.
He's not on the board, is he? He's not DoF? Maybe these hierarchies need to be figured out, and it's not surprising there would be friction
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Post by Sina Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:34 pm

Funny how i was thinking last year that Arteta or whoever new coach is going to be should veto Mislintat signings
but now Emery's suggestions are even worse if reports are to be believed
overall
Timing of Wenger/Gazidis departures were so bad, no matter what, things just get worse
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:38 pm

Regarding the Bayern rumours, I doubt that very much. Every German story only refers to an Independent article and I don't regard the Independent and Miguel Delanry specifically as to be taken serious.
We wanted Mislintat years ago, but now there's no place at Bayern that would grant him the power he obviously wants at Arsenal. And frankly, he doesn't strike me as a guy who's too keen on Bayern.
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Post by Jay29 Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:44 pm

^see my expanded post above. But I wonder why a head of recruitment would be above the manager in hierarchy.
He's not on the board, is he? He's not DoF? Maybe these hierarchies need to be figured out, and it's not surprising there would be friction

According to his, Mislintat has an executive role at the club:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/15/arsenal-head-recruitment-sven-mislintat-future

He also said before that he was part of the hiring process for the new head coach. So it does sound like he's above the head coach in the hierarchy.

I guess the idea is that the head coach will come and go, and as a club we can't keep changing our transfer policy every three or so years otherwise we'll just have weirdly balanced squads.

Honestly though, it's all messed up at the moment. Mislintat and Sanllehi (among others) were hired by Gazidis. This big restructuring was his project. Then Gazidis abruptly leaves and joins Milan. Now Sanllehi is Head of Football and he shares leadership with Venketashem, who heads up the business side of the club (he was the head of commercial before). I'm wondering if this talk of a sporting director being hired is their idea, and that they aren't carrying out what Gazidis had envisioned.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:16 pm

Jay29 wrote:
^see my expanded post above. But I wonder why a head of recruitment would be above the manager in hierarchy.
He's not on the board, is he? He's not DoF? Maybe these hierarchies need to be figured out, and it's not surprising there would be friction

According to his, Mislintat has an executive role at the club:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/15/arsenal-head-recruitment-sven-mislintat-future

He also said before that he was part of the hiring process for the new head coach. So it does sound like he's above the head coach in the hierarchy.

I guess the idea is that the head coach will come and go, and as a club we can't keep changing our transfer policy every three or so years otherwise we'll just have weirdly balanced squads.

Honestly though, it's all messed up at the moment. Mislintat and Sanllehi (among others) were hired by Gazidis. This big restructuring was his project. Then Gazidis abruptly leaves and joins Milan. Now Sanllehi is Head of Football and he shares leadership with Venketashem, who heads up the business side of the club (he was the head of commercial before). I'm wondering if this talk of a sporting director being hired is their idea, and that they aren't carrying out what Gazidis had envisioned.


Ok, now I have a serious German source, but it also says nothing about Bayern.
Honigstein writes in the Spiegel that according to his information Mislintat will leave Arsenal in the 'foreseeable future', whatever time frame that means.
He is however, contrary to "speculation in English media", not leaving because of an "alleged Bayern offer", but because of "fundamental differences of opinion about transfer policy and company structures" after losing a power struggle against Sanllehi.
So this supports your speculation @Jay29

According to Honigstein, this power struggle was about who succeeds Gazidis as DoF, and Sanllehi was promoted, and the problem is that Sanllehi and Mislintat apprently have severe philosophical differences regarding recruitment - Sanllehi trust in his network and connections among European top clubs while Mislintat trusts in his statistical analysis of players. "Sanllehi trusts in good contacts, Mislintats trust more in numbers", and "without Gazidis a moderator between the two approaches is now missing".


http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/sven-mislintat-vor-abschied-beim-fc-arsenal-a-1248230.html
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