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Post by Firenze Mon May 14, 2018 8:24 pm

actually I'm not convinced by their defense in general tbh, those CB's are all shite too

could be their undoing

insane attack and a top 3 midfield though

fully expect Vardinho and Kanealdo to ruin that backline though if we draw them

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Post by S Mon May 14, 2018 8:30 pm

Brazil now finally have a genuine WC keeper since Julio Cesar. Its not going to be that easy.

Night and day difference between this squad and the one that reached semis in the last edition.

I mean scrubs like Fred and Oscar were among their star players ffs. No David Luiz as well so thats another huge plus.
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Post by S Mon May 14, 2018 8:36 pm

And IMO having a quality bench is going to make a huge difference in this tournament

Brazil have plenty of quality attacking depth. Only Argentina and maybe France come close.

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Post by Doc Mon May 14, 2018 9:03 pm

Would have given Spain way more props but their strikers aren't exactly all of that. Still a solid team they'll be fielding though.
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Post by rincon Mon May 14, 2018 10:10 pm

Tite is the Brazilian Conte. Stubborn, and successful, as hell.

Given the qualifiers the lineup is most likely:

Neymar - Jesus/Firminho - Coutinho/Willian/Costa
Renato - Casemiro/Fernandinho - Paulinho
Marcelo - Marquinhos/Silva - Miranda - Fagner/Marquinhos
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 14, 2018 10:13 pm

Midfield is pretty trash offensively IMO, will be relying a lot on Neymar for creativity.

I don't think they will be as overwhelmingly good as people might think based on that.

Forward options are clearly fantastic and their defence is very good also.
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Post by rincon Mon May 14, 2018 10:14 pm

That's the thing. Its not an attacking team. They destroyed the qualifiers because no one could score against them and they were deadly with those quick tehcnical forwards.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 14, 2018 10:15 pm

rincon wrote:That's the thing. Its not an attacking team. They destroyed the qualifiers because no one could score against them and they were deadly with those quick tehcnical forwards.


Fair enough hmm
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Post by rincon Mon May 14, 2018 10:17 pm

Tite went 42/5 in goals scored/conceded with Brazil on the run up to the WC. That's 5 goals conceded in 19 games.

He smashed the qualifiers like few others have.
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Post by Myesyats Mon May 14, 2018 10:22 pm

Thats a great team but as someone already mentioned if they couldn't win it at home, they won't win it in Russia imo

Not a possibility that they'll get embarrased though.

Can't believe the WC is just around the corner.

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Post by rincon Mon May 14, 2018 10:35 pm

How is 2014 relevant?

This is the team that faced Germany:

Scolari.

Julio Cesar; Marcelo, Dante, Luiz, Maicon; Fernandinho, Gustavo; Bernard, Oscar, Hulk; Fred

Only Marcelo will probably be a starter again, Fernandinho the only other player in the squad. So 9-10 different players, different coach, 4 years in between.

Brazil may lose to Spain, Germany, etc. but certainly its not related at all to what happened 4 years ago.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 14, 2018 10:36 pm

Bernard rofl I remember the hype around him.
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Post by rincon Mon May 14, 2018 10:38 pm

Even the bench got cleaned up.

Jefferson, Alves, Maxwell, Henrique, Ramires, Hernanes Proud, Jo, Victor all gone. Only Pualinho and Willian remain.
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Post by Cruijf Mon May 14, 2018 11:25 pm

Yeah it's a completely different team, crazy how much they've changed in 4 years
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Post by Firenze Mon May 14, 2018 11:33 pm

Top 5 AM in the world Hernanes @S

uff, how time flies..
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Post by Zagadka Tue May 15, 2018 1:25 am

Myesyats wrote:Thats a great team but as someone already mentioned if they couldn't win it at home, they won't win it in Russia imo

Not a possibility that they'll get embarrased though.

Can't believe the WC is just around the corner.


I think Brazil has a great chance in Russia.

Both countries are part of the BRICS and have visa-free regime between them. I have many Brazilian acquaintances who do this trip every year, and months and months in advanced booked places in Russia for a whole month for duration of the tournament. Russians themselves like Brazil as well, as opposed to other European countries (mostly political reasons).

When we get closer to the business end of the tournament, don't be surprised to feel as if Brazil is the host country.
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Post by S Tue May 15, 2018 10:28 am

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Suspect hmm

Gundogan looks 80 here
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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 15, 2018 12:52 pm

Firenze wrote:usually I go in with delusional expectations.


Ha ha, both for club and NT!
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Post by S Tue May 15, 2018 2:05 pm

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meh team

Brazil will destroy them IMO :coffee:
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Post by Unique Tue May 15, 2018 2:35 pm

no weigl in the german squad. sign him up klopp
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Post by Firenze Tue May 15, 2018 3:22 pm



gonna go out this weekend to Sports Direct to get my England flag and car stickers (thank me for 100% funding your summer mercato @Mole)

England got this :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 15, 2018 3:42 pm

"mercato"

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Post by Unique Tue May 15, 2018 3:48 pm

Firenze wrote:

gonna go out this weekend to Sports Direct to get my England flag and car stickers (thank me for 100% funding your summer mercato @Mole)

England got this :bow:
that reminds me. i have to go out and get a load of flags Thumbs up
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 15, 2018 3:53 pm

Don't see how anyone can stop us tbh, what team has a striker which claims every goal both teams score?

This a wrap tbh.

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Post by M99 Tue May 15, 2018 8:26 pm

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meh team

Brazil will destroy them IMO :coffee:


Who would have thought four years ago that the hero of the final won't even make the provisional squad?

Really hope to see Reus go in fit.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 15, 2018 8:33 pm

Sane and Reus on the wings would be different to most Germany teams in recent history, most of their midfield in recent memories have been technically accomplished and very skilled but not particularly fast.

Mind you Reus could be slow now for all I know Laughing
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