This Real Madrid is the greatest team of all time and Ronaldo is the greatest player in history

sportsczy wrote:Pep played more beautifully.

We just win and win and win.

Winning > aesthetics

Pep won the league too.

Pep's team was competing for the treble every year.

CL is the pinnacle of club football.  We build teams at Real Madrid to win the CL; the rest is secondary. We don't look to be the big fish in a small pond EVER. We always strive to be the biggest fish in the biggest pond.

You can live in denial if it makes you feel better...

sportsczy wrote:Pep played more beautifully.

We just win and win and win.

Winning > aesthetics

Pep didn't cheat though.

Pep without Messi has gotten embarrassed in CL EVERY SEASON please stop

juvealbanian wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Pep played more beautifully.

We just win and win and win.

Winning > aesthetics

Pep didn't cheat though.

He did both times. Well technically he ddidnt, the refs did it for him

sportsczy wrote:CL is the pinnacle of club football.  We build teams at Real Madrid to win the CL; the rest is secondary. We don't look to be the big fish in a small pond EVER. We always strive to be the biggest fish in the biggest pond.

You can live in denial if it makes you feel better...

Imagine this being a serious post by a serious person

Yeah they have officially surpassed Pep's Barca in my eyes. Pep's Barca may have played more aesthatically pleasing football but the game is about winning and these *bleep* in white are serial winners. *bleep* love it!

Mr Nick09 wrote:Pep without Messi has gotten embarrassed in CL EVERY SEASON please stop

dude are you for real.

Unique wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:Pep without Messi has gotten embarrassed in CL EVERY SEASON please stop

dude are you for real.

Yes, in the CL, ever since he quit Barcelona and no longer had Messi at his side, he has been getting roflstomped every season.

That doesn't take away his talent of winning leagues because he's winning them wherever he goes. But the CL is a different story, and every time he met a heavyweight he crumbled.

Blue Barrett wrote:Yeah they have officially surpassed Pep's Barca in my eyes. Pep's Barca may have played more aesthatically pleasing football but the game is about winning and these *bleep* in white are serial winners. *bleep* love it!

Its not about good football. Pep's Barca won CL in 2 out of 4 attempts and won the league and Copa in 3 out of 4 attempts.

Imagine winning less trophies and saying its 'secondary' because you lose in it anyway...

Peps barca are still the best for me
you cant be resting players 5 weeks before the end of the season

This is maybe the greatest team in the cl era but Peps barca are the BEST team ive ever seen.

This team depends too much on teams *bleep* up chances.

Also peps barca influenced football beyond trophies.

Either Madrid before ronaldo, most successful club in hoistry, madrid after ronaldo

most successful club in history

they have the same european cups as united bayern and barca combined, that is *bleep* insane...

juvealbanian wrote:lol calma you look like a Sergio Ramos GL account.

Yeah you the greatest ever blah blah blah finals finals.
We all know you didn't deserve even half of those finals with your latest being the most lucky and referee backed road to final and trophy.

This is actually silly. How do you "luck" your way into FIVE finals? I can understand if you said one but FIVE? FIVE? You're being silly.

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Unique wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:Pep without Messi has gotten embarrassed in CL EVERY SEASON please stop

dude are you for real.

Yes, in the CL, ever since he quit Barcelona and no longer had Messi at his side, he has been getting roflstomped every season.

That doesn't take away his talent of winning leagues because he's winning them wherever he goes. But the CL is a different story, and every time he met a heavyweight he crumbled.

i was more thinking about how madrid would not be sitting on 4 champions lgs in 5 years without ronaldo. how can madrid fans talk about anyone being carried by one man when madrid have been carried by ronaldo since the day you signed him.

And for those who don't understand...  we have an older team but one that is PROVEN and shows up big in CL big matches.  If we wanted to win La Liga...  we go younger because kids have more to prove and they have something to prove in every game.  Our players have nothing to prove other than in the big moments.  If we wanted to win league crowns, we would have broken up this team.

CL is the target...  always has and always will be at Real Madrid.

For this reason, I don't foresee big changes for next season either unless it's an obvious significant upgrade or if someone wants to leave.

Unique wrote:

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Unique wrote:
dude are you for real.

Yes, in the CL, ever since he quit Barcelona and no longer had Messi at his side, he has been getting roflstomped every season.

That doesn't take away his talent of winning leagues because he's winning them wherever he goes. But the CL is a different story, and every time he met a heavyweight he crumbled.

i was more thinking about how madrid would not be sitting on 4 champions lgs in 5 years without ronaldo. how can madrid fans talk about anyone being carried by one man when madrid have been carried by ronaldo since the day you signed him.

Again, no one is saying Madrid is not carried by Ronaldo. We're saying that this Madrid side have a very strong case of being considered one of the best teams in history.

Also, Ronaldo didn't score tonight, Benzema and Bale did.

jibers wrote:Peps barca are still the best for me
you cant be resting players 5 weeks before the end of the season

This is maybe the greatest team in the cl era but Peps barca are the BEST team ive ever seen.

This team depends too much on teams *bleep* up chances.

Also peps barca influenced football beyond trophies.

Either Madrid before ronaldo, most successful club in hoistry, madrid after ronaldo

most successful club in history

they have the same european cups as united bayern and barca combined, that is *bleep* insane...

100% agreed.

Blue Barrett wrote:

juvealbanian wrote:lol calma you look like a Sergio Ramos GL account.

Yeah you the greatest ever blah blah blah finals finals.
We all know you didn't deserve even half of those finals with your latest being the most lucky and referee backed road to final and trophy.

This is actually silly. How do you "luck" your way into FIVE finals? I can understand if you said one but FIVE? FIVE? You're being silly.

offside goal against atleti in 14 final

2 offside goals against Bayern in 2017 sf

got drawn against Roma, wolfsburg and a man city team that didnt have a shot on target in 180 mins of football in 15/16

last minute header in 93rd minute in 14 (they dominated the game tbf)

Bayern missed many chances, gk howler, fb howler

Karius 2 gifts

The cl you need luck but the luck they've had is unprecedented tbh.

S wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Yeah they have officially surpassed Pep's Barca in my eyes. Pep's Barca may have played more aesthatically pleasing football but the game is about winning and these *bleep* in white are serial winners. *bleep* love it!

Its not about good football. Pep's Barca won CL in 2 out of 4 attempts and won the league and Copa in 3 out of 4 attempts.

Imagine winning less trophies and saying its 'secondary' because you lose in it anyway...

First of all, you can't make 4 attempts seem like an advantage to Pep's Barca. It's not Madrid's fault that that Barca team didn't last as long. Longevity is actually a big plus.

Also, everyone knows 1 CL is pretty much like 3 league titles. No one gives a shit if you didn't win the league in the year you won the CL. Big deal. It's not like This Madrid team didn't win the league last year too. And they've won the Copa as well. It carries much less weight when you compare it to not only winning the CL back to back but three in a row. That's a gargantuan achievement in this day and age. Don't let your bias blind you from that fact.

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Unique wrote:

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Yes, in the CL, ever since he quit Barcelona and no longer had Messi at his side, he has been getting roflstomped every season.

That doesn't take away his talent of winning leagues because he's winning them wherever he goes. But the CL is a different story, and every time he met a heavyweight he crumbled.

i was more thinking about how madrid would not be sitting on 4 champions lgs in 5 years without ronaldo. how can madrid fans talk about anyone being carried by one man when madrid have been carried by ronaldo since the day you signed him.

Again, no one is saying Madrid is not carried by Ronaldo. We're saying that this Madrid side have a very strong case of being considered one of the best teams in history.

Also, Ronaldo didn't score tonight, Benzema and Bale did.

its really not. thats why only madrid fans are saying it.

Unique wrote:

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Unique wrote:
dude are you for real.

Yes, in the CL, ever since he quit Barcelona and no longer had Messi at his side, he has been getting roflstomped every season.

That doesn't take away his talent of winning leagues because he's winning them wherever he goes. But the CL is a different story, and every time he met a heavyweight he crumbled.

i was more thinking about how madrid would not be sitting on 4 champions lgs in 5 years without ronaldo. how can madrid fans talk about anyone being carried by one man when madrid have been carried by ronaldo since the day you signed him.

utter nonsense. Madrid carry ronaldo. They serve him goals on a platter. Outside of the box he does absolutely *bleep* all. Kroos, Marcelo, modric Isco, Bale, Ramos, their squad is filled with level 1 tyalent throughout and Ronaldo is fed tap ins on a platter.

Nothing wrong with it because he he can score from any service.

If we're talking truly all-time... Ajax of the 70s was clearly the best. This team and the others never combined style and trophies like that team.

Again, winning is winning.

Any serie A fan (especially Juve fans) who try to say otherwise are either hypocrites or don't even like how their own teams play and have played since forever.

jibers wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

juvealbanian wrote:lol calma you look like a Sergio Ramos GL account.

Yeah you the greatest ever blah blah blah finals finals.
We all know you didn't deserve even half of those finals with your latest being the most lucky and referee backed road to final and trophy.

This is actually silly. How do you "luck" your way into FIVE finals? I can understand if you said one but FIVE? FIVE? You're being silly.

offside goal against atleti in 14 final

2 offside goals against Bayern in 2017 sf

got drawn against Roma, wolfsburg and a man city team that didnt have a shot on target in 180 mins of football in 15/16

last minute header in 93rd minute in 14 (they dominated the game tbf)

Bayern missed many chances, gk howler, fb howler

Karius 2 gifts

The cl you need luck but the luck they've had is unprecedented tbh.

Peps barca couldn't deal with inter there is no way they are better than this real, we would have roflstomped them just the same.

We have levelled all European powers in CL except for barca who avoided us like the plaagie in CL. Their luck

stop being so bitter cbarca ffs... your club is and always will be provincial compared to Real Madrid. Just accept it

jibers wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

juvealbanian wrote:lol calma you look like a Sergio Ramos GL account.

Yeah you the greatest ever blah blah blah finals finals.
We all know you didn't deserve even half of those finals with your latest being the most lucky and referee backed road to final and trophy.

This is actually silly. How do you "luck" your way into FIVE finals? I can understand if you said one but FIVE? FIVE? You're being silly.

offside goal against atleti in 14 final

2 offside goals against Bayern in 2017 sf

got drawn against Roma, wolfsburg and a man city team that didnt have a shot on target in 180 mins of football in 15/16

last minute header in 93rd minute in 14 (they dominated the game tbf)

Bayern missed many chances, gk howler, fb howler

Karius 2 gifts

The cl you need luck but the luck they've had is unprecedented tbh.

That's all long talk. In football, you need to create your own luck and push things until they start to fall in your favour and that's exactly what Madrid have done. You can make the case that almost every CL winner in the past 15 years have had some luck that worked in their favour.

- Without JT's slip that United team win 0 CLs
- Without some bad finishing and unbelievable choking, Chelsea have the same number of CLs as Arsenal
- Without some ridiculous refereeing, Pep's first season at Barca ends without a CL.
- Without that Lehman red card, Ronaldinho may not have won the CL with Barca
- Without unbelievable capitulation in the final, Gerrard has 0 CL medals.

You can go on and on and on. There are incidents in the knockout stages that work in your favour but it won't work for you still if you're not good enough.

Blue Barrett wrote:

S wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Yeah they have officially surpassed Pep's Barca in my eyes. Pep's Barca may have played more aesthatically pleasing football but the game is about winning and these *bleep* in white are serial winners. *bleep* love it!

Its not about good football. Pep's Barca won CL in 2 out of 4 attempts and won the league and Copa in 3 out of 4 attempts.

Imagine winning less trophies and saying its 'secondary' because you lose in it anyway...

First of all, you can't make 4 attempts seem like an advantage to Pep's Barca. It's not Madrid's fault that that Barca team didn't last as long. Longevity is actually a big plus.

Also, everyone knows 1 CL is pretty much like 3 league titles. No one gives a shit if you didn't win the league in the year you won the CL. Big deal. It's not like This Madrid team didn't win the league last year too. And they've won the Copa as well. It carries much less weight when you compare it to not only winning the CL back to back but three in a row. That's a gargantuan achievement in this day and age. Don't let your bias blind you from that fact.

What bias ? Winning the league AND CL is less impressive than just winning the CL itself ? And they managed to do that 2 times under Pep. Wont even mention the treble they managed to win 3 years later.

'everyone knows 1 CL = 3 league titles'

Pointless comment.

'No one gives a shit if you didn't win the league in the year you won the CL'

Another pointless comment. And the explanation is there above but somehow you still arent able to get it.