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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:43 am

AC Milan or Inter suit him.

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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:41 pm

fishball wrote:rsinatra, is ganso fragile or he was just unlucky with his latest injuries?

That's the thing. When he was a teenager, I think he got a serious injury, but after that he was apparently fine for years, perhaps with the occasional minor injury that every player has at times.

Then last year, as we all know, he suffered another serious injury. I blame his long legs, he keeps trying to stretch them all the way to keep the ball, even when he is falling lol. Anyway, it could've happened to anyone.

Then he came back late in February, and I think the problem was simply that he wasn't slowly introduced back into the team. Because he is so vital for Santos, he was already playing 90mins every week, and then with the Libertadores and the Paulista State Championship, he was playing every 3-4 days. Take Kaká for instance, they took their time in introducing him back because he wasn't so needed, but there was no extra patience regarding Ganso's case.

It wasn't just Ganso, about a handful of other Santos players have been getting injuries in the past few months because of this schedule overload.

However, the Santos doctors say that his latest injury (which would initially keep him out for 6 weeks, but now it's apparently/fortunately been reduced to less) is not because he played too much, but rather because of an unlucky incident (he sort of fell, and tried to support himself by kneeling with one leg, while the other one tried to keep ball in his possession). So, if that's right, then I don't know what to say. Apparently his muscles are much stronger than last year, on both legs, and he should be able to take more. I think we should wait and see, you know? If in a couple of months he is injured and out for more than a month again, and then again.. I'd start to say he might be becoming the new Pato.. but hopefully it won't happen.

PS. there's also the fact that Neymar and Ganso are pretty much the most marked players on the pitch, so the opponents can get extra violent with them. But Neymar seems to be able to take more.. probably because he just dives before the opponent can actually hurt him lol.
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:10 pm

Sir_Psycho_Sexy91 wrote:summer of 2012... he'll snatch that #10 from Seedorf who should be done by then cause he's not Cafu.. lol

I hope to God this happens.

teague wrote:So many rumors about Ganso and yet no club has approached him?

Milan have made numerous trips to Brazil to talk about Ganso.
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Post by Forza Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:35 pm

It's a one horse race! Laughing

...or at least I hope it is. I haven't heard much about Ganso and other clubs recently, however the transfer period is a long, unpredictable, and sensationalised one... and we're not even a week into it!
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Post by Superpeppe Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:37 pm

I don't know do we really need this guy. It seems that he gets hurt easliy
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Post by Forza Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:13 pm

AC Milan remain interested in doing a deal for Santos star Paulo Henrique Ganso.

Gazzetta dello Sport says Milan chief Ariedo Braida is flying to Brazil this week and intends to take in Santos' Copa Libertadores clash.

Braida hopes to see Ganso in action and hold more talks with Santos over the player's fee.

Milan remain hopeful of talking down Santos' asking price - with the Brazilians still referring any interested club to the player's buyout clause.
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Post by windkick Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:24 pm

[quote="rsinatra"]
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PS. there's also the fact that Neymar and Ganso are pretty much the most marked players on the pitch, so the opponents can get extra violent with them. But Neymar seems to be able to take more.. probably because he just dives before the opponent can actually hurt him lol.

Hmm, I read that Lucas from Sao Paolo is actually the highest rated/expensive player in Brasil at the moment. I read he was rated first, then Neymar, then Ganso
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Post by Moey86 Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:55 pm

If he remains in Santos another year, id say thats a step closer to Milan.

Im not sure if Leo will be on the bench this time next year tbh..
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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:53 pm

Superpeppe wrote:I don't know do we really need this guy. It seems that he gets hurt easliy

Read what I wrote just a few posts about yours.. about his injuries.
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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:56 pm

[quote="windkick"]
rsinatra wrote:
fishball wrote:
PS. there's also the fact that Neymar and Ganso are pretty much the most marked players on the pitch, so the opponents can get extra violent with them. But Neymar seems to be able to take more.. probably because he just dives before the opponent can actually hurt him lol.

Hmm, I read that Lucas from Sao Paolo is actually the highest rated/expensive player in Brasil at the moment. I read he was rated first, then Neymar, then Ganso

What? lol you've been misinformed. I think Lucas is the most expensive atm, but he's not as highly rated as either one. I think people pretty much agree that he is not at Neymar's level, I'm not even sure he'll ever be as good as Neymar when both are older.. but he still is above average and pretty good.

It's hard to compare Neymar and Ganso, because they are different. I for one would take the latter over the former. And either one of them over Lucas. But I wouldn't mind have the three of them in my team Very Happy
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Post by windkick Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:15 pm

I havn't watched Ganso that much to say the truth, only Neymar.

Is Ganso a Rivaldo type player? I've heard that comparison while I've heard Neymar can more be compared to a Ronaldinho type
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Post by Ganso Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:19 pm

ganso is a mixture of zidane's tricks and pirlo's vision Cool
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Post by cositomilan Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:11 pm

The problem is the price Maybe if santos are willing to take 20 million but I don't think they want that little
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Post by PedroBR Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:19 pm

If Ganso is intelligent he will go to Inter. Because he is already an injury-prone player. And Milan's health department is the worst of the planet.
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Post by fishball Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:43 am

thanks rsinatra, very informative post there.

inter are linked with him a couple of times because of the leo factor, and i just wanted to know about his injuries history. thank you sir
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Post by M99 Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:53 pm





Neto brought a news on Tuesday, March 7, which promises to shake up the football world. According to information from Brazil, midfielder Paolo Henrique Ganso has been already sold to AC Milan.

"An executive told me yesterday that Paolo Henrique Ganso was sold to ACMilan and Gillette [sponsor of the player] will make a propaganda there in Italy.
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Post by uzonero Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:01 pm

Heard this as well, it would really be awesome if it's true. We'd finally have a competitive squad for next season's UCL
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Post by rsinatra Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:14 pm

lol, you can take that show seriously if you want to.. lol...

he might be bought, but i dont think he's sold yet.
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Post by windkick Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:23 pm

Cassano - Ganso - Robinho
-----------Ibra ---------

Pato on the bench, look about right?
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Post by uzonero Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:51 pm

There's no way pato would ride the bench plus that formation of yours would never be considered by allegri.
Allegri loves playing with 3 CMs
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Post by windkick Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:55 pm

Gotcha, so how would it work then if they signed Ganso?
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Post by uzonero Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:12 pm

He'd most likely play as a CAM behind ibra and either of pato, robinho or cassano
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Post by M99 Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:46 pm

Abbiati

Abate Silva Nesta/Mexes Taiwo

Boateng VanBommel/Flamini Mr X/Ganso

Ganso/Mr X/Cassano/Robinho

Ibra/Casano Robinho/Pato

Say what you want about Milan, but you cannot deny we've got damn good depth especially up front.

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Post by rsinatra Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:57 am

milanista99 wrote:
Abbiati

Abate Silva Nesta/Mexes Taiwo

Boateng VanBommel/Flamini Mr X/Ganso

Ganso/Mr X/Cassano/Robinho

Ibra/Casano Robinho/Pato

Say what you want about Milan, but you cannot deny we've got damn good depth especially up front.


Ganso works better as a CAM. If you buy him, please don't mess him up Rolling Eyes . Like Juve did with Diego.
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Post by Superpeppe Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:24 pm

milanista99 wrote:
Abbiati

Abate Silva Nesta/Mexes Taiwo

Boateng VanBommel/Flamini Mr X/Ganso

Ganso/Mr X/Cassano/Robinho

Ibra/Casano Robinho/Pato

Say what you want about Milan, but you cannot deny we've got damn good depth especially up front.


It's a good team but not to many Italians in it.
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Post by rsinatra Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:48 pm

There are reports on Brazilian websites such as globoesporte.com that AC Milan will be watching Ganso on the Libertadores final.. they plan to contact Santos, see how his fitness is (aka if he's injury prone or not), etc, and then make a final bid... in July... :S NO!
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