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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:03 am

So the lesson he took away from that is that they should've cleared the ball at the first sign of pressure? Laughing

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Post by Lucifer Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:24 am

futbol wrote:already likes Messi and hates Ronaldo. Proud

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Post by Kaladin Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:48 am

Laughing

Stay humble and hard working , criminal fans
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Post by Nishankly Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:35 am

CB needs to forgo his Barca DNA and stop talking about passing the ball better than the opponent while being 1-0 down imo
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Post by Glory Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:42 am

What a result for Spurs. Matches one of the best teams in the world away from home with a team made with a shoestring budget once again (despite the many factors involved like injury) and people still bash Poch for not winning trophies.  Rolling Eyes  Any team not going for him in the near future, be it Real or United will come to rue.

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Post by marottalad Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:07 am

I am a Juve fan second leg will be lit but if matuidi and dybala come in and put in a shift I just expect us to nudge it. They have been almost our best players this season for us no need to explain the importance of them to the public.

if we go out credit to Pochettino and Spurs. However I am disappointed in the club that we didn't address our midfield issues we are becoming somewhat of a pushover in the transfer market. We tend to strengthen areas from last season we need to strengthen but lose top players every summer and not actually replace them.

With one or two more quality centre mids and cutting Khedira and Stucuz we probably wouldn't have drawn that match. De Sciglio at RB is a good back up/rotation player but disappointing as our main right back signing this window.

We have ourselves to blame we are becoming cheap. Not expecting world class players to arrive but potential world class players or bench warmers from top clubs would make a huge difference. Could have made moves players like n'zonzi, kovacic that calibre and we would already be through.
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Post by S Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:19 am

Kaladin wrote:Laughing

Stay humble and hard working , criminal fans

You must be one sad, depressed lowlife to say something like that


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Post by Lucifer Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:53 am

S wrote:
Kaladin wrote:Laughing

Stay humble and hard working , criminal fans

You must be one sad, depressed lowlife to say something like that



Nah brah u got it wrong, he meant "fans of criminal" not "criminal fans". But since u abused him here's your a upjuventus.

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Post by Collblanc Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:23 am

whats up with the sloppy passing from juventus? holy
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Post by danyjr Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:25 am

Don't understand why people praise Spurs like they are the best thing since sliced bread. Sure they are good team and they played away from home but by half time they should have been 3-1 down if not 4-1 against a half-arsed Juventus team. They had the possession but they had no penetration, just like vs Arsenal first half.

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Post by Glory Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:52 am

Its because Poch is making them playing that way with minimum resources and using local players promoted from their youth team instead of buying 60 mil attackers and keeping them as options from the bench.

Sure, finding Kane and Kane become the Kane he is right now could be attributed to good luck. Even still. The self belief within that squad is something I havent seen since Prime Fergie era. Imagine us going 2-0 under Moaninho to Juventus away. Laughing Not just United, most of the teams will simply fold from that point.
Could have/ would have is not relevant. After all, it wasnt down to some injustice from the officials, it was Higguain blasting against the post with his penalty. It ddidnt become a 3-1 or a 4-1 but stayed 2-1 for Spurs to equalize in the 2nd half. Simple.

And people pointing towards the missing players of Juventus, Spurs too were missing Rose, Alderweireld and Wanyama. 3 names who could be counted among their important ones.

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Post by Luca Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:13 pm

Collblanc wrote:whats up with the sloppy passing from juventus? holy


Khedira literally completed 7 passes, WATTBA

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Post by rincon Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:17 pm

Khedira should be benched for like a month and then sold to the MLS in the summer. Might as well just play Bentancur every game to see if he is the real deal or not. Could just play that guy Muratore that showed up on the CL squad.
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Post by Luca Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:21 pm

If only we had a player like Marchisio

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Post by Collblanc Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:28 pm

Luca wrote:
Collblanc wrote:whats up with the sloppy passing from juventus? holy


Khedira literally completed 7 passes, WATTBA


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Post by Warrior Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:44 pm

Pjanic got zero help in this midfield and i still don't get why Marchisio was left warming the bench.

The only downside of Bonucci's departure is the first pass is now Chiellini's job. Problem is... the man can't do it all by himself. Why not give him the keeper gloves and ask him to attack while we're at it Neutral
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:12 pm

danyjr wrote:Don't understand why people praise Spurs like they are the best thing since sliced bread.

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Eh? they aren't lol.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I have to say, watching them first time this season, pretty shocking what a scrub team Juve have become.

Bruv hella.

Getting nowhere close to the semis this season.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:46 pm

Why 3-4 / 4-1 ?
We created at least 4 chances on first half ( Kane close to score twice, Alli same ) not just Juve did it
Perhaps 4-4 ..
@CBucks , do you think would Poche begin with Alderweireld on 2nd leg or Davinson Sanchez is our first starter this year?
I 'd change 3/4 of defence for 2nd leg
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Post by Robespierre Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:52 pm

Yep Khedira was easily the worst player yesterday
Been relevant just against Chievo in 9 men this year
Juve need of adjust the midfielder for 2nd leg,they need of this more than Dybala. yesterday Bernardeschi was good, not felt pressure of the match
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Post by Art Morte Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:17 pm

Jjuve fans need not worry about Khedira for much longer. His Turkish-German half-brother Emre Can is coming. What Khedira leaves to be desired offensively, will soon be left desired defensively.
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Post by CBarca Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:25 pm

Robespierre wrote:Why 3-4 / 4-1 ?
We created at least 4 chances on first half ( Kane close to score twice, Alli same )   not just Juve did it
Perhaps 4-4 ..
@CBucks , do you think would Poche begin with Alderweireld on 2nd leg or Davinson Sanchez is our first starter this year?
I 'd change 3/4 of defence for 2nd leg


It's revisionist. Juventus, if they only scored their very, very good chances would have scored 3 probably. Higuains two goals, and the penalty he missed. If Spurs scored their very, very good chances they probably would have scored two (Kane goal, and Kane point blank header). There were a couple good chances for each side after that (Higuain again, Kane, Dele also had good chances). For either team, they were opportunities but not clear cut. After half time both teams had chances but none of which I would say were clear cut -- Tottenham came out a bit lucky in this regard to score a great free kick and that's how they got to the draw.

To respond to the rest of your Bucks infused post, I think it depends on how the next few weeks go. If Alderweireld is playing and doing well, I think he starts and Sanchez goes to the bench. Trippier will start on the right (obviously). Vertonghen will stay. Davies will stay on the left because he is a better defender than Rose and Spurs need that (and Rose is still coming off injury). Davies didn't have a great game overall defensively but that's the exception and not the norm.

Poch could also go three at the back. I don't expect they will because Poch has shifted this season from 3 CB's back to a four across the back, which has resulted in Spurs playing better.

My prediction is Davies-Vertonghen-Alderweireld-Trippier. This is also my preferred lineup. I would have liked to see a cheeky bid for Giannis in January to put him up top with Kane but alas it isn't meant to be.
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Post by Nishankly Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:30 pm

Art Morte wrote:Jjuve fans need not worry about Khedira for much longer. His Turkish-German half-brother Emre Can is coming. What Khedira leaves to be desired offensively, will soon be left desired defensively.


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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:06 pm

Higgy injured. Will he be fit for Wembley?
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Post by Luca Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:08 pm

Too soon to tell. If he’s not, we’re *bleep*

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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:19 pm

Time for Dybala to step up and be counted
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