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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:33 am

Made in a lab midfielder

Only de Bruyne has been as good this season, and he’s only 21

Odegaard too is in that bracket but he plays a bit closer to goal

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:41 am

L.E.G.E.N.D

That's all!!!
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Post by Doc Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:48 am

Would legit be a complete shame if Pogba is bought and replaces him in the line up as he legit has done really well when given the opportunity.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:04 am

Mamad wrote:Already better than Pogba :coffee: . what a stud.

Valkyrja wrote:Made in a lab midfielder

Only de Bruyne has been as good this season, and he’s only 21

Odegaard too is in that bracket but he plays a bit closer to goal

halamadrid2 wrote:L.E.G.E.N.D

That's all!!!



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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:03 am



If Kovacic had done this to Messi in our LL wining season ZZ would be unbeaten against Barca right now. Hence why one is on the bench at Chelsea while the other is a starter for RM

We'll miss him against Sevilla but it absolutely had to be done.

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Post by Thimmy Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:18 am

Your timing is quite poor Razz Kovacic is a starter for Chelsea at this point, and from what I can tell, he’s probably their most important player these days. He’s been really, really good in a few of their matches recently.
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Post by Kick Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:35 am

Thimmy wrote:Your timing is quite poor Razz Kovacic is a starter for Chelsea at this point, and from what I can tell, he’s probably their most important player these days. He’s been really, really good in a few of their matches recently.


Bit of an overstatement, but Kova is doing well. He's my choice for a starting if I were to pick a starting XI, but Lampard's team constantly changes so we don't have a starting XI.
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Post by Thimmy Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:02 am

I suppose you would know better than me. I can’t imagine anyone else on your team offering what he does as Jorginho’s midfield partner. Then again, I don’t watch Chelsea’s matches often enough to firmly claim that he is your most important player. From what I’ve seen from Chelsea this season, taking him off would do the most damage to your team. Jorginho has the creativity and passing ability, but Kovacic makes up for everything else that he lacks, and adds creativity as well. Your midfield doesn’t quite tick without him.
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Post by Kick Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:32 am

Thimmy wrote:I suppose you would know better than me. I can’t imagine anyone else on your team offering what he does as Jorginho’s midfield partner. Then again, I don’t watch Chelsea’s matches often enough to firmly claim that he is your most important player. From what I’ve seen from Chelsea this season, taking him off would do the most damage to your team. Jorginho has the creativity and passing ability, but Kovacic makes up for everything else that he lacks, and adds creativity as well. Your midfield doesn’t quite tick without him.


It is true that Kova is important, but our formation and XI depends on who we are playing. If we're playing a top team, Kova tends to play while Jorgi is used against park the bus teams.

I don't know who our most important player is, but I my guess would be Abraham, due to the lack of back up options. Kova can at least be rested, Abraham generally cannot.

Still, Kova has been great recently.
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Post by zigra Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:20 pm

Something is really off here. He's absolutely bang average (6.92 over the course of this season ffs) yet he receives unreal hype. He was bad against Atletico yesterday as well and you get comments like "made in a lab midfielder" after that match Laughing

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Post by farfan Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:18 pm

zigra wrote:Something is really off here. He's absolutely bang average (6.92 over the course of this season ffs) yet he receives unreal hype. He was bad against Atletico yesterday as well and you get comments like "made in a lab midfielder" after that match Laughing



He's no Frenkie De Jong, that's for sure ( 6.96)
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:30 pm

You'd have to watch him play to understand how good he really is. The start of our clean sheet record coincides with his introduction into the line up. He also makes it possible to press from the front. He is also a really good passer and is very good under pressure. Gone are the days teams dominate our midfield and we go shoulder to shoulder with really physical teams now too. He is a brilliant footballer. I don't know if he is the best/one of the best in Europe, remains to be seen if we win anything this season but one thing is for sure, you can't be average and get into a RM midfield. You'd have to be very very good to get into our midfield
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Post by Mamad Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:38 pm

People still go to whoscored for ratings? lol.
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Post by zigra Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:55 pm

farfan wrote:
zigra wrote:Something is really off here. He's absolutely bang average (6.92 over the course of this season ffs) yet he receives unreal hype. He was bad against Atletico yesterday as well and you get comments like "made in a lab midfielder" after that match Laughing



He's no Frenkie De Jong, that's for sure ( 6.96)


Not like de Jong has been great this season. In fact he's been really average which btw isn't really a problem as I don't expect people of that age to be world beaters. The same is true for Valverde - I'm not claiming there's no potential at all but it's absolutely ludicrous to claim he's world class or even close to that level.

Btw obviously I've seen quite many Madrid and Barca matches (live not whoscored) and the rating just confirms what happens on the pitch. Right now and ignoring potential both are ok and that's it.
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Post by Doc Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:35 am

I ain't know about brilliant footballer. That's a bit over the top. That being said, the whoscored rating, to me anyway, doesn't cover the intangible but from a statistical point of view (or going by whoscored metrics), yeah, 6.92 seems fair.

He has become a key cog in Zidane's type of football (whatever that type is) though and I'm happy for him. Would be replaced by Pogba next season...
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:40 pm

Safe to say that at the moment only Martin Ødegaard and a certain Kevin de Bruyne are at this man’s level

Destroyed Atletico, MOTM against Barca, made a fool of 75m boy Pussie de Jong, outpaced Jordi and has been a total baller all season
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Post by zigra Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:53 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Safe to say that at the moment only Martin Ødegaard and a certain Kevin de Bruyne are at this man’s level

Destroyed Atletico, MOTM against Barca, made a fool of 75m boy Pussie de Jong, outpaced Jordi and has been a total baller all season


6.9, worst rated starter for Madrid against Barcelona.

It's incredible how little you understand of football.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:06 pm

zigra wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Safe to say that at the moment only Martin Ødegaard and a certain Kevin de Bruyne are at this man’s level

Destroyed Atletico, MOTM against Barca, made a fool of 75m boy Pussie de Jong, outpaced Jordi and has been a total baller all season


6.9, worst rated starter for Madrid against Barcelona.

It's incredible how little you understand of football.


Sometimes I feel like he studied at the Johan Cruyff’s School of Football while fighting to survive in the Ghettos of Uruguay
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Post by rincon Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:14 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Safe to say that at the moment only Martin Ødegaard and a certain Kevin de Bruyne are at this man’s level

Really not safe to say that
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Post by danyjr Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:34 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Safe to say that at the moment only Martin Ødegaard and a certain Kevin de Bruyne are at this man’s level
I feel sorry for your boyfriend having to put up with your premature ejaculation.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:01 pm

Man is bang average, the only thing he's got going for him is athleticism, thats why it appears he's having a good game because he's all over the pitch

should go play for Watford or something or be a runner
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Post by Myesyats Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:02 pm

first clasico win at Bernabeu since 2016 and madrilenos are losing they minds lol
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:20 am

You know that being able to be all over the pitch is a damn useful skill in sports right? Lots of players are incapable of being that good. He dominated his side of the pitch from the midfield because he was able to run forward and push back your LB.

He is super impressive as a young player, no matter how you want to slice it, not to mention how good his decision making is and the fact that he is not turning over the ball. He is great young midfielder
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:28 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:You know that being able to be all over the pitch is a damn useful skill in sports right?


The next Sami Khedira :bow:
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Post by farfan Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:36 am

Myesyats wrote:Man is bang average, the only thing he's got going for him is athleticism, thats why it appears he's having a good game because he's all over the pitch


How can you shit on an energetic athletic box to box when that's exactly what your team needs. hmm

I'd take Valverde over Frenkie " Alou Diarra " de Jong any day of the week.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:41 am

Valkyrja wrote:
Destroyed Atletico
Hapless_Hans wrote:

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