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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:41 pm

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Post by Myesyats Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:48 pm

Fifi is just a white Lass Diarra lol

I'm not shitting on him, I'm just pointing out facts. He is not a "made in a lab" midfielder. He's just a decent talent.

Frenkie De Jong is being misused at Barca as a CM and its unfair to judge him yet. He should play as a DM dropping between the CBs which Busquets currently does unsuccessfully.
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Post by danyjr Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:10 am

Classic GL, one guy bigging up a player to be top 3 midifleders in the world after 15 games and the other showing a 15 second clip of him having a miss proving that he's a shit player :bow:

Keep it coming lads Very Happy
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:12 am

I'm not trying to 'prove' that he is  a shit player. He is not a shit player, at all, good, promising young all action midfielder.
I'm just providing some context and some perspective. :coffee:
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Post by Pedram Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:23 am

Hans is just pissed about the fact that Goretzka will never be as good as Valverde :coffee:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:24 am

Pedram wrote:Hans is just pissed about the fact that Goretzka will never be as good as Valverde :coffee:

'Will'? Goretzka is better than Valverde in this very moment, and he has certainly been better than Valverde in the past Laughing
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:49 am

There's a third alternative. You know, where we don't shit on the kid but at the same time not pretend like he's the second coming of Jesus.

Maybe a youngster who has a lot of potential and talent for his age but he's in no way the best in the world or even close it it?
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Post by Thimmy Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:08 am

The Demon of Carthage wrote:There's a third alternative. You know, where we don't shit on the kid but at the same time not pretend like he's the second coming of Jesus.

Maybe a youngster who has a lot of potential and talent for his age but he's in no way the best in the world or even close it it?


Well, this is GL. I’m sure you’ve noticed by now that there’s nothing inbetween world class and fraud. To suggest otherwise would make you... a fraud hmm
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Post by AlphaBeast Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:56 am

Myesyats wrote:Fifi is just a white Lass Diarra lol

I'm not shitting on him, I'm just pointing out facts. He is not a "made in a lab" midfielder. He's just a decent talent.

Frenkie De Jong is being misused at Barca as a CM and its unfair to judge him yet. He should play as a DM dropping between the CBs which Busquets currently does unsuccessfully.


First, Lass Diarra was a good DM, and was a pure DM. not a B2B, so your point is invalid before it even begins.

Second: Valvarde still bossed your midfield the other day ! and plays with his heart.... unlike FDJ who is playing for $$

$$ can't buy love for a team. Cule$
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Post by AlphaBeast Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:00 am

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:35 am

Myesyats wrote:Fifi is just a white Lass Diarra lol

I'm not shitting on him, I'm just pointing out facts. He is not a "made in a lab" midfielder. He's just a decent talent.

Frenkie De Jong is being misused at Barca as a CM and its unfair to judge him yet. He should play as a DM dropping between the CBs which Busquets currently does unsuccessfully.
What is a made in a lab midfielder? do you mean Messi injecting HGH as a kid?

Also, De Jong never played successfully as a "DM dropping between the CBs" at a high level, lmao, the absolute gaul to come on here and to dare say he should play in place of Busquets. Not even in a millions years he will reach Busquets level, it does not matter how many youtube videos you watch. Even at his best De Jong was playing in a double pivot at Ajax and he wasn't the one with defensive responsibilities. Such an overrated player.
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Post by farfan Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am

They're employing the same mental gymnastic they used to justify Coutinho's bad performances. At some point, they had to come to terms with the fact they were simply conned into overpaying for a one-trick pony hype job.

They can say whatever they want about which position or system is ideal for him, but de Jong is already not living up to their own expectations. Most of the Barça fanbase and their media thought they were getting some Cruyffian wunderkind/complete midfielder who's gonna be the focal point of their transition play. Someone with the skills they ascribed to him in the summer would have no trouble operating as a CM. Yet here they are trying to convince themselves this genius can only show his class as a sole DM in front of the defense ( A position he rarely played at Ajax or with the Dutch NT ).

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Post by Valkyrja Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:27 pm

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Myesyats wrote:Fifi is just a white Lass Diarra lol

I'm not shitting on him, I'm just pointing out facts. He is not a "made in a lab" midfielder. He's just a decent talent.

Frenkie De Jong is being misused at Barca as a CM and its unfair to judge him yet. He should play as a DM dropping between the CBs which Busquets currently does unsuccessfully.
What is a made in a lab midfielder? do you mean Messi injecting HGH as a kid?

Also, De Jong never played successfully as a "DM dropping between the CBs" at a high level, lmao, the absolute gaul to come on here and to dare say he should play in place of Busquets. Not even in a millions years he will reach Busquets level, it does not matter how many youtube videos you watch. Even at his best De Jong was playing in a double pivot at Ajax and he wasn't the one with defensive responsibilities. Such an overrated player.

Just trying to find reasons for why he’s shit

Playing with Schone in a double pivot has no reliable link to him being a Busquets replacement as his role was totally different for Ajax

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Post by zigra Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:48 pm

Frenkie is fine. Calling him crap is exaggerating just as much as calling Valverde one of the best midfielders in the world.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:23 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Fifi is just a white Lass Diarra lol

I'm not shitting on him, I'm just pointing out facts. He is not a "made in a lab" midfielder. He's just a decent talent.

Frenkie De Jong is being misused at Barca as a CM and its unfair to judge him yet. He should play as a DM dropping between the CBs which Busquets currently does unsuccessfully.
What is a made in a lab midfielder? do you mean Messi injecting HGH as a kid?


IDK, ask this delinquent:

Valkyrja wrote:Made in a lab midfielder

Only de Bruyne has been as good this season, and he’s only 21

Odegaard too is in that bracket but he plays a bit closer to goal
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Post by Myesyats Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:27 pm

zigra wrote:Frenkie is fine. Calling him crap is exaggerating just as much as calling Valverde one of the best midfielders in the world.

Exactly. For me Frenkie is a standout performer in Barca which is a team in shambles currently. He is living up to my expectations so far considering the circumstances.
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:23 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Pedram wrote:Hans is just pissed about the fact that Goretzka will never be as good as Valverde :coffee:

'Will'? Goretzka is better than Valverde in this very moment, and he has certainly been better than Valverde in the past Laughing

Goretzka is better than Valverde the same way Hummels is a top 5 defender on his day: things only a Bayern fan would come up with.

Also,
Valverde: 6.89
Goretzka: 6.81 (minus 1.0 due to the fact he plays in the Bundesliga, 0.5 for riding pine for most of the season; actual rating 5.31)
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Post by Pedram Sun May 29, 2022 6:36 am

Insane performance from him tonight
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Post by M99 Sun May 29, 2022 6:45 am

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Post by Perucho21 Sun May 29, 2022 6:48 am

Currently best midfielder coming from the Rio De la Plata region
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