Cristiano Ronaldo is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME. Now Sit down and STFU

Peterson's a dipshit mega grifter who pretends to be an authority on a lot of subjects he's actually clueless about, lol. IIRC he was shilling his daughters dietary stuff on Rogan/platforms before and she's a chip off the ol' block too. He may have the odd sensible take but his bottom line is just tapping into a certain type of audience and profiting from it.

I used to listen to/watch a lot of Rogan, the amount of toxic fucks he's shone a spotlight on and given a bigger platform to in the last few years is sad.

Pedram wrote:

El Gunner wrote:

Pedram wrote:

Kanye is mentally sick, Joe Rogan is your know-nothing average Joe, Peterson is a fraud cosplaying as a physiologist, Andrew Tate is a sex trafficker.

El G my friend, the problem isn't that men can't do anything anymore, it's just that you're attracted to weirdos.

i sometimes think you are a smart person, Pedram bud, but then you post shit like this smh

absolutely baseless bullshit which you read from mainstream media which push these anti-narratives against these people, and you just believe it without thinking for yourself or doing your own investigation. Where is the criminal record sheet that shows Tate actually is a sex trafficker and why hasn't he been locked up for it yet? Don't even get me started on Kanye and the rest of what you said.

Pathetic, do better.

I had positive view about you tbh, i'm just concerned or should i say disappointed that you're falling into the Youtube rabbit hole, Joe Rogan i guess is normal but fangirling over these guys you named gives off major red flag, especially Jordan Peterson who is a well known right-wing troll.

youtube rabbit hole? fangirling? red flag?
every word you use, you sound just like the average mid 40s liberal white woman. Completely baseless non-phenomena stuff you bring up.

But let's leave at that, no need to throw insults at each other over a forum.

Thimmy wrote: Peterson is, in fact, a clinical psychologist. It's his public speaker persona that pretends to be so much more than that.

A fairly obscure and unaccomplished one who made very minor contributions to his field. This is another issue I have with the so called intellectual dark web clique. Most of them rose to fame thanks to incidents or controversies  involving hot button issues and not actual academic excellence in their respective fields. In Peterson's case, it was the pronoun law in Canada. For guys like Bret Weinstein, it was the "SJW" protests on campus.

These guys went from being complete zeros in their fields to becoming the go-to authority on wide array of matters for millions of impressionable young men. A nobody like Bret Weinstein, who not too long ago was teaching at one of the worst colleges in America (98% acceptance rate lol), is probably the most famous biologist in the world thanks to Joe Rogan There are people out there who genuinely think Jordan Peterson is some world-renowned psychologist. Of course these same people have never heard of Aaron Beck, Lisa Feldman Barrett, Alan Baddeley, or literally any other psychologist with an extensive body of work in the field.

farfan wrote:

Thimmy wrote: Peterson is, in fact, a clinical psychologist. It's his public speaker persona that pretends to be so much more than that.

A fairly obscure and unaccomplished one who made very minor contributions to his field. This is another issue I have with the so called intellectual dark web clique. Most of them rose to fame thanks to incidents or controversies  involving hot button issues and not actual academic excellence in their respective fields. In Peterson's case, it was the pronoun law in Canada. For guys like Bret Weinstein, it was the "SJW" protests on campus.

These guys went from being complete zeros in their fields to becoming the go-to authority on wide array of matters for millions of impressionable young men. A nobody like Bret Weinstein, who not too long ago was teaching at one of the worst colleges in America (98% acceptance rate lol), is probably the most famous biologist in the world thanks to Joe Rogan There are people out there who genuinely think Jordan Peterson is some world-renowned psychologist. Of course these same people have never heard of Aaron Beck, Lisa Feldman Barrett, Alan Baddeley, or literally any other psychologist with an extensive body of work in the field.

THANK YOU

It’s really disappointing how the left has gone from trying to help the poor and disenfranchised to becoming hypocritical caricatures with no empathy or respect, and the worst part is they can’t even SEE it or they think it’s justified. This thread is a great example.

El Gunner wrote:

Pedram wrote:

El Gunner wrote:

i sometimes think you are a smart person, Pedram bud, but then you post shit like this smh

absolutely baseless bullshit which you read from mainstream media which push these anti-narratives against these people, and you just believe it without thinking for yourself or doing your own investigation. Where is the criminal record sheet that shows Tate actually is a sex trafficker and why hasn't he been locked up for it yet? Don't even get me started on Kanye and the rest of what you said.

Pathetic, do better.

I had positive view about you tbh, i'm just concerned or should i say disappointed that you're falling into the Youtube rabbit hole, Joe Rogan i guess is normal but fangirling over these guys you named gives off major red flag, especially Jordan Peterson who is a well known right-wing troll.

youtube rabbit hole? fangirling? red flag?
every word you use, you sound just like the average mid 40s liberal white woman. Completely baseless non-phenomena stuff you bring up.

But let's leave at that, no need to throw insults at each other over a forum.

El Gunner that’s exactly what they’ll do, modern day liberals of course will be “disappointed” that you and I are free thinkers, they’ll use insults to dehumanize you or put you down if you disagree with them. I’m liberal myself. I voted for bernie sanders TWICE. And I did grassroots door to door work for him. But the current left has lost their minds, or they simply don’t care about being kind. It’s sad

Firenze wrote:Peterson's a dipshit mega grifter who pretends to be an authority on a lot of subjects he's actually clueless about, lol. IIRC he was shilling his daughters dietary stuff on Rogan/platforms before and she's a chip off the ol' block too. He may have the odd sensible take but his bottom line is just tapping into a certain type of audience and profiting from it.

I used to listen to/watch a lot of Rogan, the amount of toxic fucks he's shone a spotlight on and given a bigger platform to in the last few years is sad.

Toxic because you don’t agree with it? Lol. Okay. I don’t even agree with Peterson’s political views myself, but there’s this little thing called free speech.

It’s funny because at the same time, the new left want us to accept transgenders at 10 years old, silencing free speech, and abusive language towards others who they disagree with. I’m honestly repulsed by them. This is not the party nor the people I voted for.

VivaStPauli wrote:

farfan wrote:

Thimmy wrote: Peterson is, in fact, a clinical psychologist. It's his public speaker persona that pretends to be so much more than that.

A fairly obscure and unaccomplished one who made very minor contributions to his field. This is another issue I have with the so called intellectual dark web clique. Most of them rose to fame thanks to incidents or controversies  involving hot button issues and not actual academic excellence in their respective fields. In Peterson's case, it was the pronoun law in Canada. For guys like Bret Weinstein, it was the "SJW" protests on campus.

These guys went from being complete zeros in their fields to becoming the go-to authority on wide array of matters for millions of impressionable young men. A nobody like Bret Weinstein, who not too long ago was teaching at one of the worst colleges in America (98% acceptance rate lol), is probably the most famous biologist in the world thanks to Joe Rogan There are people out there who genuinely think Jordan Peterson is some world-renowned psychologist. Of course these same people have never heard of Aaron Beck, Lisa Feldman Barrett, Alan Baddeley, or literally any other psychologist with an extensive body of work in the field.

THANK YOU

Yeah but do they got a viral video on YT? Case closed.

FennecFox7 wrote:

Firenze wrote:Peterson's a dipshit mega grifter who pretends to be an authority on a lot of subjects he's actually clueless about, lol. IIRC he was shilling his daughters dietary stuff on Rogan/platforms before and she's a chip off the ol' block too. He may have the odd sensible take but his bottom line is just tapping into a certain type of audience and profiting from it.

I used to listen to/watch a lot of Rogan, the amount of toxic fucks he's shone a spotlight on and given a bigger platform to in the last few years is sad.

Toxic because you don’t agree with it? Lol. Okay. I don’t even agree with Peterson’s political views myself, but there’s this little thing called free speech.

It’s funny because at the same time, the new left want us to accept transgenders at 10 years old, silencing free speech, and abusive language towards others who they disagree with. I’m honestly repulsed by them. This is not the party nor the people I voted for.

Why are you criticizing Firenze's post and trying to silence him? There's this thing called free speech, buddy. He has every right to say whatever the fuck he wants without anybody ever disagreeing with him.

elitedam wrote:

FennecFox7 wrote:

Firenze wrote:Peterson's a dipshit mega grifter who pretends to be an authority on a lot of subjects he's actually clueless about, lol. IIRC he was shilling his daughters dietary stuff on Rogan/platforms before and she's a chip off the ol' block too. He may have the odd sensible take but his bottom line is just tapping into a certain type of audience and profiting from it.

I used to listen to/watch a lot of Rogan, the amount of toxic fucks he's shone a spotlight on and given a bigger platform to in the last few years is sad.

Toxic because you don’t agree with it? Lol. Okay. I don’t even agree with Peterson’s political views myself, but there’s this little thing called free speech.

It’s funny because at the same time, the new left want us to accept transgenders at 10 years old, silencing free speech, and abusive language towards others who they disagree with. I’m honestly repulsed by them. This is not the party nor the people I voted for.

Why are you criticizing Firenze's post and trying to silence him? There's this thing called free speech, buddy. He has every right to say whatever the fuck he wants without anybody ever disagreeing with him.

THANK YOU

FennecFox7 wrote:

Firenze wrote:Peterson's a dipshit mega grifter who pretends to be an authority on a lot of subjects he's actually clueless about, lol. IIRC he was shilling his daughters dietary stuff on Rogan/platforms before and she's a chip off the ol' block too. He may have the odd sensible take but his bottom line is just tapping into a certain type of audience and profiting from it.

I used to listen to/watch a lot of Rogan, the amount of toxic fucks he's shone a spotlight on and given a bigger platform to in the last few years is sad.

Toxic because you don’t agree with it? Lol. Okay. I don’t even agree with Peterson’s political views myself, but there’s this little thing called free speech.

It’s funny because at the same time, the new left want us to accept transgenders at 10 years old, silencing free speech, and abusive language towards others who they disagree with. I’m honestly repulsed by them. This is not the party nor the people I voted for.

the hypocrisy is DEAFENING my guy! Absolutely disgusting, this "new left" has really shown us something these past few years. I recently found myself following Tucker Carlson on Twitter because he was the only one who would give a platform to Tate to clear the allegations, it's gotten THAT bad!

VivaStPauli wrote:

El Gunner wrote:have y'all noticed how every popular male figure in the media gets shunned/cancelled these days?

From Kanye, to Joe Rogan, to Peterson, to Andrew Tate.

Men can't do anything right anymore these days unless they keep quiet and fit into the status quo.

I honestly have no idea who Andrew Tate is, but find it funny that your list starts off with three certifiably insane people. I think it's plenty easy to be a male media figure, you just can't say insane shit like 'dragon energy' or advocate for child beating.

Joe Rogan was for quite a while the most popular podcast on Spotify btw, not sure how cancelled that is.

Tate is even more insane. A misogynist, abusive, grifter that can cause a lot of damage to kids and teens falling for his cartoon-like persona of what is supposed to be a sexist badass.

What a list

FennecFox7 wrote:It’s really disappointing how the left has gone from trying to help the poor and disenfranchised to becoming hypocritical caricatures with no empathy or respect, and the worst part is they can’t even SEE it or they think it’s justified. This thread is a great example.

"The left" is back to being as much of a boogeyman as "the right" recently became in America. To use an old GL classic, it's just "building a strawman".

Have some quality control ffs, and if you (general you) consider yourself a free thinker then apply that and think critically.

To have conservative or right wing values certainly does NOT mean liking andrew tate, tucker carlson, kanye west, etc. That is bottom of the barrel stuff that should be called out. It's not a case of "the libs" hating on the opposite side of the spectrum, a sane conservative with some self respect should never like guys like them. You don't even have have to say conservative, these are just people preying on impressionable masses to gain money, power, and fame. Tate is an absolute caricature of it, yet apparently falling for that scam is now considered free thinking

Where I grew up, the left were the main responsible for ruining the country, absolutely destroying it. Does it mean that I should then become alt-right feel like a genius while watching Peterson and Shapiro argue on youtube? no. Because those guys in Venezuela are morally bankrupt, power-hungry clowns regardless of ideology. Just like the free-thinking(tm) gang of youtube fame, from Carlson to Alex Jones, a cancer to society.

he said nothing wrong or criminal in that video

The issue with websites like Reddit is that they take 1 minute clips from 6 years ago then build a narrative out of it to create false outrage. I knew of Tate for years because he was also part of the crypto community. Based on what I remember he had a small niche audience and was speaking to a heavily red pilled and right wing audience back then. He had just started his gimmick of being a politicized low-rent Dan Blizerian. So to increase his following he’d say edgy stuff like that, so he could come off as a mafia-esque badass so idiots can buy his courses.

The real reason he moved to Romania was because some girl from his webcam studio falsely accused him of abuse and he had to spend 6 figures to clear his name to prove his innocence in England. That’s why he was against the me too movement.

Tate deserves to get shit on for many things, but those kind of clips (or the ones where he’s clearly doing a bit) are the laziest way to go about it imo.

Arquitecto wrote:

Lasciavit wrote:It’s funny because my younger cousin is in high school and he told me all the high school boys love Tate. He was telling me how they started going to the gym and started working jobs because of him. Peterson got memed for saying you should clean your room, but honestly some guys need that basic level of advice. It’s truly amazing how many young men lack any real masculine guidance.

The last line really is true why the guru culture of these men will only grow from here as new style parenthood is more a laissez-faire style of it but seemingly those men grow up to head the weak guidance given to them and therefore jump onto people like Tate and what not.

But my problem is how incensed people are that Ronaldo is even thinking of seeking advice from JPB, given his views simply are not a threat to their reality, for if it is, its just plain sad. Or they just don't have a life.

I don’t think people are so much upset that Ronaldo sought advice from Peterson, but rather that he went ahead and promoted him.

He’s the most followed person on instagram and has almost 500 million followers. To some degree it’s irresponsible. There were certainly people who didn’t know of him who are now watching his videos and will think Peterson is spreading the gospel when in fact he’s not.

Yes he’s a clinical psychologist, but he drank his own kool aid and now thinks he’s an authority on certain subjects that he really isn’t all that smart about.

Ronaldo has a lot of young fans who are impressionable, and I just don’t think promoting figures who are pipelines to the alt ring wing is a wise move.

see Cas, I see no fault in that, let's not fall into this gatekeeping behaviour. If Ronaldo appreciates the help he got from Peterson so much so that he feels the need to promote him or give him a shout out on his socials, then he has every right and the freedom to do so.

Whether young impressionable boys "fall victim" to Peterson's right-wing rhetoric at the end of the day is not Ronaldo's responsibility or worry. Hopefully most of those young men cultivate the self-awareness to think for themselves and engage critically with sociopolitical issues as they grow older. That's literally how life works. I'm sure as young boys we all here also held views or said some shit that we would feel embarrassed about now.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Ronaldo leans right politically anyways considering he was named after Reagan, so his family's values are probably pretty right wing

It's how this thread became less about Ronaldo and more about analysing Peterson and his ilk.

Love it.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Ronaldo leans right politically anyways considering he was named after Reagan, so his family's values are probably pretty right wing

Last name after Reagan, given name after christianism, clear case of religious rightwing family

Doc wrote:It's how this thread became less about Ronaldo and more about analysing Peterson and his ilk.

Love it.

Ronaldo’s record this season is like 2 g/a. What is there to discuss

Just wanna say how much I enjoyed watching CR's about to cry face during the derby, priceless Good stuff Ten Hag, keep it up.

Walked out of Old Trafford before the end of the game because he didn’t get subbed on. He’s ruining his legacy each and every week.

Love to see it.