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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:18 pm

rincon wrote:Unreal robbery from United. How the *bleep* is Ibra not sent off????

It was a straight red, Ibra even had a yellow! but he doesn't get sent off.


stfu you clown

Surman should have been sent off first for stamping on Ibra's head

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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:19 pm

that's disgusting and you need to be banned for the season for something like that

stamping on someones head with football boots is literally life endangering
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Post by Doc Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:19 pm

Thought the stamp was a sure red card but nope, nothing. The elbow is definitely a red card and nope, nothing there too. Don't blame Ibra for the retaliation but the referee really messed up. Twice.
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:20 pm

I meant Mings not Surman
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:20 pm

never been so disgusted in my life

the fact he didn't send him off means retroactive action can be taken at least and hopefully it's a 15 or more game ban
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Post by Jay29 Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:21 pm

That stamp from Mings was a crime, nevermind a red card. Seriously shocking stuff.

Ibrahimovic's elbow back was understandable. Wouldn't have happened without the stamp. But nonetheless, a red card on its own.

How Friend has missed both these incidents or saw both and thought neither was worthy of a card is baffling. Has refereeing really come to this?

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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:21 pm

Doc wrote:Thought the stamp was a sure red card but nope, nothing. The elbow is definitely a red card and nope, nothing there too. Don't blame Ibra for the retaliation but the referee really messed up. Twice.


Basically. Ibra's a hothead anyway and that's 100% a red card but considering the circumstances I'm actually willing to allow it tbh.
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Post by rincon Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:22 pm

Firenze wrote:
rincon wrote:Unreal robbery from United. How the *bleep* is Ibra not sent off????

It was a straight red, Ibra even had a yellow! but he doesn't get sent off.


stfu you clown

Surman should have been sent off first for stamping on Ibra's head


wtf.

Mings stamp his head and should have been sent off. Then Ibra elbowed and should have been sent off too.

In the end of the day, Surman got sent off and United have 11 players.
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:24 pm

exactly so Mings should have been sent off and banned for life for that and Ibra given no chance to retaliate so hope is it a robbery from us Laughing

guys I'm actually baffled at how a professional footballer can do that wtf, heat of the moment etc but I honestly think he should be banned for life..you can't go around doing that, you can literally kill someone with that sort of stuff
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:25 pm

that makes anything Suarez ever did look like friendly banter
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Post by Doc Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:26 pm

I too have no beef with Ibra's action. You know, reactions and opposing reactions. If Friend actually did his job with sending off Mings?, they'll be no real need for Ibra to elbow anyone. And to make things more laughable, Surman gets sent off for what I assume is verbal abuse. Stamping a head, elbowing another player and he gets sent off for words.

Edit: Wasn't words, he pushed Zlatan. Lol, poor guy.


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Post by jibers Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:26 pm

rincon wrote:
Firenze wrote:
rincon wrote:Unreal robbery from United. How the *bleep* is Ibra not sent off????

It was a straight red, Ibra even had a yellow! but he doesn't get sent off.


stfu you clown

Surman should have been sent off first for stamping on Ibra's head


wtf.

Mings stamp his head and should have been sent off. Then Ibra elbowed and should have been sent off too.

In the end of the day, Surman got sent off and United have 11 players.


Yea not sure why Surman was sent off. Mings could have endangered Ibras life.
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:27 pm

Luke Shaw's an unreal fat mess

after his injury he lost 50% of his pace
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Post by Jay29 Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:29 pm

Looking at the Surman incident. He got one yellow for his follow through catching Shaw earlier. Then a 2nd for a little shove on Ibrahimovic that he milked. The ref didn't see that one so I can only assume the assistant pointed it out to him.

Replays showed Friend didn't actually see the Mings stamp because there was a play in the way. If so, there's a chance of retrospective punishment (there should be regardless but the rules on this are *bleep*).

He saw the elbow but bottled the decision. Plain and simple.


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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:29 pm

Ibra's going to get a 3 match ban probably anyway because the ref couldn't have seen it but the way they were talking maybe he did idk, confusing

Mings needs a season long ban


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Post by rincon Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:29 pm

jibers wrote:
rincon wrote:
Firenze wrote:

stfu you clown

Surman should have been sent off first for stamping on Ibra's head


wtf.

Mings stamp his head and should have been sent off. Then Ibra elbowed and should have been sent off too.

In the end of the day, Surman got sent off and United have 11 players.


Yea not sure why Surman was sent off. Mings could have endangered Ibras life.


Absurd refereeing. Surman basically got sent off because the ref felt like he had to do something and didn't even realize that Surman was on a yellow :facepalm:

This guys must be having the worst performance of his career.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:32 pm

Referee saw Ibra's elbow so he won't be punished. Retarded rules remain retarded.
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:33 pm

at least he didn't see Mings, hope he gets maximum ban

this is such a bizarre match, wouldn't be surprised if we lose 2-1 to 10 men by an own goal
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Post by Jay29 Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:35 pm

You know it's bad when just about everyone agrees that Mings deserves an elbow to the face Laughing

Watch the FA bottle this as well. Mings deserves a lengthy ban for what he did.

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Post by Doc Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:42 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Referee saw Ibra's elbow so he won't be punished. Retarded rules remain retarded.

He won't receive punishment because the ref saw it? That not making any sense honestly. You sure that's the rule?
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Post by Unique Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:47 pm

And Firenze has the front to say Man U get no luck with refs. What a joker Laughing
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Post by Jay29 Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:51 pm

Doc wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Referee saw Ibra's elbow so he won't be punished. Retarded rules remain retarded.

He won't receive punishment because the ref saw it? That not making any sense honestly. You sure that's the rule?


The ruling is that if the referee says he saw the incident in his post-match report, the FA will not do anything. They stick by the ref's judgment even after replays show it was wrong.

It's only when the ref doesn't report an incident that the FA will act on it.

It's a stupid rule designed to protect referees after they screw up.

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Post by Kaladin Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:53 pm

What a retarded rule

The FA needs an ethnic cleansing, sell all refs for 5m a piece to China/Middle East, spend 150m on actual world class refs
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Post by Jay29 Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:00 pm

Although looking it up, it seems the rule was changed a bit in 2013. The FA CAN retrospectively punish players for off-the-ball incidents and acts of violent conduct, even if the ref reported as seeing it. So Mings and Ibrahimovic can still receive bans regardless if Friend saw it or not.

Whether the FA actually do or not depends on how much of a media outcry there is, though. They obviously don't review every game for incidents to punish.

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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:00 pm

looking like it'll end up 1-1 tbh

we ALWAYS drop points when we have a chance to gain rofl

literally every time this season
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Post by Firenze Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:01 pm

blatant penalty
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