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Post by Doc Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 18:24

Outside of all this posturing from either club, I do hope Mbappe remains professional in all this and not follow the likes of Dembele or Kane.

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 19:02

Leonardo: "Kylian Mbappé wants to join Real Madrid and we will NOT hold him back. We said NO to Madrid's first offer, but if our conditions are met, we'll see."

Leonardo: "It seems like a strategy from Madrid to try to get a no from us, to show that they have tried everything and to wait for a year to get him for free. What they're doing is NOT RIGHT, and is ILLEGAL AND UNACCEPTABLE


Hope we tell them to stuff it. He's just shown his cards. Need Perez to be smart here. We don't even need to worry about retaliation since we don't ever have low release clauses on our players. But if they want burgerman and the golfer they're more than welcome to them


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Post by halamadrid2 Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 19:08

Leonardo: “We made two important offers to Kylian: one for the top players in the squad two months ago and one above these players very recently. We want to prove to him that he is an important player, at the center of the project, but not above the project.”

rofl

On the one hand you have a president refusing to budge when the best player in thr world wants to improve his contract and allows him to leave when hr presents an acceptable offer to the club. On the other you have a team so desperate to hold onto their star man you offer him a blank check and he still wants to leave
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Post by Art Morte Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 20:59

halamadrid2 wrote:
Leonardo: "It seems like a strategy from Madrid to try to get a no from us, to show that they have tried everything and to wait for a year to get him for free.


This is the only thing that makes sense. Paying crazy money for someone who is in the last year of their contract would be egregiously bad mismanagement of a club.
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Post by sportsczy Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 21:35

That's factually false Hala... PSG's latest offer was big, but less than both Neymar and Messi's. Here's the article on it from a few days ago:

https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/ligue-1/psg-dans-le-dossier-kylian-mbappe-tout-peut-encore-arriver_AN-202108230388.html

It was a 5 year guaranteed + 1-year option at a lesser wage than those two.

No blank check. Less than the other two. Mbappe doesn't like to be second fiddle, let alone third. That's the problem.
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Post by sportsczy Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 21:38

Art Morte wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Leonardo: "It seems like a strategy from Madrid to try to get a no from us, to show that they have tried everything and to wait for a year to get him for free.


This is the only thing that makes sense. Paying crazy money for someone who is in the last year of their contract would be egregiously bad mismanagement of a club.

keep in mind that 30% of the transfer fee goes to Monaco as well. The revenue from 1 year of Neymar-Messi-Mbappe alone would basically be the same or more as 200 mil less 30%.

So financially, even if they cared about money, the offer has to be enormous to make a dent.

It's actually more profitable for them imo to keep Mbappe for 1 year and let him go for free. The only club that really loses in this scenario is Monaco.
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Post by Doc Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 22:59

Kinda rich Leonardo talking about what is illegal and wrong considering the owners of PSG aren't exactly the pinnacle of righteousness and virtue, you know, being an autocratic regime and all that.

Alas, I would agree with Sports, it'll be better for PSG to just reject Madrid's offers and let the contract run out. Who knows, Mbappe might change his mind (probably not, think the bridge has been burned beyond repair) and Mbappe would, more than likely, continue to be professional in all this.
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Post by futbol_bill Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 23:41

The bottom line to me is it doesn’t matter what Leonardo says and possibly Nasser Al-Khelaifi as it is the Emir that is calling the shots. Perez apparently has been in direct talks with him.

Perez’s rebuttal is disputing almost everything Leonardo said and the club is calm. The player is insistent on the move and he also is professional enough to stay if they insist. Perez may slightly increase the offer, but no way he will meet what Leonardo is saying.

At this point, I rather wait until next year and damage this reputation that PSG has been projecting (fuck FFP and everyone, we can sign whoever we want and noone leaves until we are ready to do so).
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Post by sportsczy Wed 25 Aug 2021 - 23:50

I hope that's Flo's attitude... because it could easily blow up in his face lol.

If you're a deal maker, you never ever let time pass if you can lock up the deal now.  With time, people can change their minds for a million reasons you can think of and another ten million you would never think of.  Add to this general rule that you are dealing with a 22-year old ego-maniac football player who is French, playing in Paris and with Neymar and Messi as his attacking partners.  

I would love it.

That said, I think Madrid makes the 220 million offer PSG is asking.
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Post by futbol_bill Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 1:11

Yeah you have essentially said same multiple times before. How did those statements turn out?
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Post by Myesyats Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 3:58

danyjr wrote:As a Madrid fan I'm hoping Pérez wins this dick waving contest.

I mean...I kinda fixed it for you... The new king of football - Kylian Mbappe - Page 30 Person-shrugging_1f937 :whistle:
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Post by neuro11 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 6:37

Leonardo also revealed "With Kylian, I have spoken a lot, he has always said the same things to us. Kylian has always promised that he would not leave the club for free. That is always what he has said to us."

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 9:57

Well that's not really up to him is it
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Post by Art Morte Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 17:37

halamadrid2 wrote:Well that's not really up to him is it


Who? Mbappe? Of course it's up to him, just leave when your contract expires.

If PSG don't want to lose him for free, maybe accept Madrid's (stupid) offer lol?
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 17:59

I mean he can choose to run down his contract or he'll have to run down his contract if the 2 clubs do not cone to an agreement on the fee. So if he's made that promise he'll need to ask his team to stop being butthurt

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Post by danyjr Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 18:21

Any team would have taken €160m for him tbh. It is a ridiculous amount of money especially during the pandemic for what I would call an unproven talent.

It's just that QSG don't need the money. They earn that kind of money while I was writing this post.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 18:44

I wouldn't call him unproven lol but i think we should set a barometer when it comes to paying for players. I would never pay more for a player than we did for Romaldo back in the days. I think 160ME is too much for him but we have to remember what happened with Veratti last time he tried to get out of their jail
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 19:56

I don't know which is more moronic: offering €160m for a player in his last year of contract or Leonardo saying that the offer "wasn't enough".

Wait until next year and get him for free for god's sake. And if he renews, then fuck it, he's not Cristiano, we won't lose sleep for not getting him.

Since you clearly have money to blow, get Haaland. I need that Viking tank in Madrid.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:10

RM with a new take it or leave it bid

170 ME guaranteed + 10 ME in add ons, up from the previous 155 ME guaranteed + 25 ME in add ons.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:11

halamadrid2 wrote:RM with a new take it or leave it bid

170 ME guaranteed + 10 ME in add ons, up from the previous 155 ME guaranteed + 25 ME in add ons.


So

not actually "up" then
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:13

Other than the guaranteed up front money

The add ons knowing Perez is probably balon d'or. If he gets that the extra money will be worth it
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:14

Of course Mbappe will get an ballon Dor

Who else is there?
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:15

Unless Mbappe takes over Ronaldo's goalscoring mantle which won't happen. We'll need to win CL for him to get it
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Post by Perucho21 Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:20

On the verge of signing Mbappe while Barca are on the verge of signing Drake for a Memphis collab rofl rofl the state of that club smh
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Post by futbol_bill Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:34

The Demon of Carthage wrote:I don't know which is more moronic: offering €160m for a player in his last year of contract or Leonardo saying that the offer "wasn't enough".

Wait until next year and get him for free for god's sake. And if he renews, then fuck it, he's not Cristiano, we won't lose sleep for not getting him.

Since you clearly have money to blow, get Haaland. I need that Viking tank in Madrid.


So let’s see if I understand your latest rant!

For 3 years you have called Perez cheap, unwilling to buy top talent, then when he talked about a Mbappe attempt you said where would the money come from. Then when he does raise the money from sales, your response is wait until next year!

Does that mean you are satisfied with Bale and Hazard?

You’ve always have been critical of wait until next year!

And yes even with or without Mbappe, the plan has been to make an attempt at Haaland as well.

But i’m assuming you are like Tito, won’t believe any of these signings until you see the Jersey presented…… that and criticize and moves that are made! What a shadow fan you are!
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Thu 26 Aug 2021 - 20:48

Calm your horses, what I'm against is offering €160m for a player in his last year of contract.

Doesn't bother you that you would become the laughing stock of Europe?
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