Re: English Premier League '16-'17 Discussion - Part 5

by BarcaLearning Sun 23 Oct - 20:53:30

Loool at Conte winding up the crowd to humiliate Mou, just love to see Mou suffer Very Happy

by Unique Sun 23 Oct - 21:01:47

just saw Bailly leaving the ground and he was limping but the good news is he was not on crutches

by Helmer Sun 23 Oct - 21:10:59

Speaking about defenders: City paid £50m for Stones, Arsenal £35m for Mustafi, Chelsea £32m for Luiz, and Man U £30m for Bailly where as we got Matip for free, such a snip Proud

and he has been class till now.

by McAgger Sun 23 Oct - 21:22:14

Matip is the best defender in the league. Just lmao at Koscielny Laughing

Did you see his hilarious performance yesterday. The second his athleticism and agility declines he's done for. Prime Mertesacker held his hand first for a long time and now Mustafi has to do it. You have to limit the amount of actual thinking Koscienly has to do for him to look good.

by Firenze Sun 23 Oct - 21:23:18

Matip

foh

by Helmer Sun 23 Oct - 21:26:17

Kos confuses me at times. But I think if remember some his performances from last 1-2 seasons, he is a great defender but not a WC as I heard here sometiemes.

by Unique Sun 23 Oct - 21:30:22

Don't call me James wrote:Matip is the best defender in the league. Just lmao at Koscielny Did you see his hilarious performance yesterday. The second his athleticism and agility declines he's done for. Prime Mertesacker held his hand first for a long time and now Mustafi has to do it. You have to limit the amount of actual thinking Koscienly has to do for him to look good.

don't get carried away mate this is why us Liverpool fans get shot down in flames. yes he looks a real good signing and he has been playing well but ive seen him look a bit shaky at times and he could be doing much better on set plays. Thumbs up

by Unique Sun 23 Oct - 21:32:21

and if we are all being honest. when fit spurs have the best CB partnership in the lge.

by McAgger Sun 23 Oct - 21:35:18

lol what carried away?

It's not like I'm just saying now he's all of a sudden the best in the league.

The second he signed I said he was the best in the league.

Did extensive scouting on him at Schalke when we agreed to sign him in January. I was surprised at how good he was at first for Schalke but not now. He was top 3 CB in Bundesliga with Hummels and Boateng, no doubt about it. There's a reason Schalke are so shit now. He was one of the main reasons why they were competing for CL last season and now in the relegation fight. lmao at replacing him with Naldo Laughing

by Helmer Sun 23 Oct - 21:38:38

no doubt I envy Spurs defense and their whole defensive system. I did not check the stats but they must have conceded the least number of goals in the league right now.

by Unique Sun 23 Oct - 21:41:03

Don't call me James wrote:lol what carried away?

It's not like I'm just saying now he's all of a sudden the best in the league.

The second he signed I said he was the best in the league.

Did extensive scouting on him at Schalke when we agreed to sign him in January. I was surprised at how good he was at first for Schalke but not now. He was top 3 CB in Bundesliga with Hummels and Boateng, no doubt about it. There's a reason Schalke are so shit now. He was one of the main reasons why they were competing for CL last season and now in the relegation fight. lmao at replacing him with Naldo

and that's the problem Thumbs up

by Helmer Sun 23 Oct - 21:43:36

Don't call me James wrote:lol what carried away?

It's not like I'm just saying now he's all of a sudden the best in the league.

The second he signed I said he was the best in the league.

Did extensive scouting on him at Schalke when we agreed to sign him in January. I was surprised at how good he was at first for Schalke but not now. He was top 3 CB in Bundesliga with Hummels and Boateng, no doubt about it. There's a reason Schalke are so shit now. He was one of the main reasons why they were competing for CL last season and now in the relegation fight. lmao at replacing him with Naldo

I dont watch all the Bundesliga games but I do follow the league regularly through highlights and other stuff. And I remember Matip doing silly mistakes in his Schalke times but most of the times it used to come out of his 'attacking side'. He had kind of responsibility to start attacks if he had a chance for Schalke. But Klopp seems to have asked him to be little cautious at the start of Liverpool career.

by RealGunner Sun 23 Oct - 21:44:10

Least Goals conceded

1) Tottenham - 4
2) Arsenal - 9
3) Everton - 9
4) City - 9
5) Chelsea - 9

Clean sheets

1) Tottenham - 5
2) Arsenal - 4
3) Chelsea - 4

by Kaladin Sun 23 Oct - 21:45:30

There's nothing wrong with what McAgger said lol, out of those CB's bought, Matip is the best one. I'd put him best of the league if i could, but i need to see more Pool matches

by EL Patron Sun 23 Oct - 21:46:28

Helmer wrote:Kos confuses me at times. But I think if remember some his performances from last 1-2 seasons, he is a great defender but not a WC as I heard here sometiemes.

The problem with Koscielny is that we play in such an attacking manner which causes defenders to be left exposed all the time. So far this season he is had to mop up after Mustaphi and Monreal, before that it was Mert and his mobility issues. This why you always see him making those last ditch challenges, any centre halves would struggle to play for Arsenal due to the way we set up.

by Firenze Sun 23 Oct - 21:47:34

Matip - 7 PL matches played, 6 goals conceded, 1 clean sheet.

BEST IN THE WOOOOOOOOORLD

Alderweirald is probably then Vertonghen and Koscielny

by Helmer Sun 23 Oct - 21:48:49

Pochettino :bow:

Spurs

I cant believe they are suddenly out of top 4 now Laughing

although I know it doesnt mean anything.

by Firenze Sun 23 Oct - 21:49:15

tbh though you have about 3 elite CB's in football and then everyone else currently

by RealGunner Sun 23 Oct - 21:49:19

Have to agree with McAgger tbh. Nothing wrong with what he said. The way Matip has been defending this season is amazing to watch. Best in the league easily.

Goes hand to hand with best forward in the league Firmino and best midfielder in the league Coutinho.

by Unique Sun 23 Oct - 21:50:50

ES wrote:There's nothing wrong with what McAgger said lol, out of those CB's bought, Matip is the best one. I'd put him best of the league if i could, but i need to see more Pool matches

he is a great signing on a free no doubt and I'm very happy to have him but he has only played 8-9 games and Liverpool have only kept 1 clean sheet so lets see how he goes first. but as helmer pointed out the money spent on centre backs and he cost nothing is great management by klopp.

by Firenze Sun 23 Oct - 21:51:07

don't forget most improved footballer of the season - Lallana

and best under 21 player James Milner

by RealGunner Sun 23 Oct - 21:52:24

Tbf Lallana has been top 5 in the league this season. He joins up with

1) Firmino
2) Matip
3) Lallana
4) coutinho
5) Mane

by Helmer Sun 23 Oct - 21:55:46

Firenze wrote:Matip - 7 PL matches played, 6 goals conceded, 1 clean sheet.

BEST IN THE WOOOOOOOOORLD

Alderweirald is probably then Vertonghen and Koscielny

I think Alder looks better because of this Spurs system. For me Vertonghen is better than him and is a very complete defender. Nonetheless I so badly wanted him at Liverpool when they were rumours that we were after him.

by Unique Sun 23 Oct - 22:34:22

Firenze wrote:don't forget most improved footballer of the season - Lallana

and best under 21 player James Milner

you have to admit Lallana has improved no end this season. tbh I didn't think he had this form in him.

by RealGunner Sun 23 Oct - 22:39:42

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by Lex Sun 23 Oct - 22:51:43

Don't call me James wrote:The second he signed I said he was the best in the league

Reminds me of the time Liverpool had the best players in each position, according to their fans. Remember that? Reina. Riera. Johnson. Kuyt. Fookin 'ell, Aquilani? Possibly one of the best midfielders this side of the the universe

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