Re: THE Manchester Derby 16/17

by messixaviesta Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:15 pm

RealGunner wrote:Silva is immense. 2nd best CAM in the league easily

David Silva has been such a fine player but there's been something missing in his career. I would say it's the big moment(s). He spent the WC 2010 victory on bench. Was a steady performer in three Euros but rarely spectacular. His best has probably come in some league games for ManCity, even a few of the big games, but what he now needs to do is really show himself in UCL and then maybe in WC 2018 as well.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:19 pm

Silva has always been wildly inconsistent, i give him crap for it because nobody else seems to Laughing

He would be great for a few games and then go missing for just as many if not more games.

I would expect and hope that if anyone's performance jumps under Pep it would be him, as quite frankly if you a technical and creative playmaker and you don't find success under Pep then there's a problem lol.

by juve_gigi Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:37 pm

Adit wrote:Stop blaming mou for pogba trying to dribble a player 3 times in a row only to lose the ball and end up getting countered. Dude has no playmaking skills and when he is not close to box he is useless.

If people actually watched him the last 4 years in Serie Zzzz they would know this statement to be 100% factual, although I would disagree on the lack of play making skills.

Pogba has lots of talent but is not a player that can do it all himself ala Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar. He needs to play in a system that suits his style and needs good players around him to succeed. Having Pirlo and Vidal and Marchisio around him made Pogba a better player. Having Fellaini as his double pivot partner will absolutely ruin him.

by Winter is Coming Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:44 pm

Pogba, Rashford and Martial are under the wrong manager. They needed Pep.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:47 pm

Rashford and Martial yeah, not sure Pogba would be that successful under Guardiola though.

by rincon Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:50 pm

Rashford will be very successful no doubt. The moment he leaves Mou he'll shine.

by juve_gigi Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:06 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:Pogba, Rashford and Martial are under the wrong manager. They needed Pep.

Pogba would succeed greatly under Allegri...

:coffee:

by Myesyats Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:20 pm

Missed the game because I had a meeting to attend...

Happy with the result but also not suprised. Pep is a better manager than Mourinho.

Can't see Man City not winning the leauge.

by Winter is Coming Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:36 pm

Supposedly some United fans were chanting "f off Mourinho" Laughing

by juve_gigi Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:57 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:Supposedly some United fans were chanting "f off Mourinho"

by Sri Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:11 pm

#mOUT

by Art Morte Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:15 pm

Sri wrote:#mOUT

#MOUR

by M99 Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:20 pm

#Josexit

by Sri Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:22 pm

too many syllables

by VanDeezNuts Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:02 pm

A Mourinho team where the midfield gets bypassed? I wonder where I have seen that before..

by Hapless_Hans Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:08 pm

I have a question regarding this thread:

Is there another 'Manchester Derby'. Or just this one, between Utd and City?

by Jay29 Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:30 pm

Depends on how loose you want to apply the Manchester part.

FC United of Manchester vs Manchester United/City would be a Manchester derby.

If you extend it to Greater Manchester then you could throw in teams like Wigan and Bolton.

But when people say Manchester derby they're only really referring to City vs United.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:33 pm

Why I'm asking is, why the THE in the title

by CBarca Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:46 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Why I'm asking is, why the THE in the title

Emphasis. EPL marketing is so far reaching it infiltrates GL as well

by Art Morte Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:54 pm

CBarca wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Why I'm asking is, why the THE in the title

Emphasis. EPL marketing is so far reaching it infiltrates GL as well

I really don't know what you're talking about, Crystal Balace.

by RealGunner Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:03 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Why I'm asking is, why the THE in the title

Because it's THE Manchester Derby

by Sri Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:14 pm

... as opposed to the reverse fixture at Emptyhad.

by Art Morte Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:00 pm

Sri, how to put this nicely... jokes like that, avatar like that... maybe just... don't bother, ay?

by Sri Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:25 pm

by Winter is Coming Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:57 am

On redcafe this was an interesting analogy describing Pep and Mou

Honestly, Pep is a greater manager than José.

To me José tries to float a boat as fast as he can by getting some fine wood. When constructing the boat he just want it to be solid enough to get through the ocean. Problems will be solved along the way as he's got enough fine wood to repair eventual damage that may occur. No need to go through every single detail. The crew knows enough to finish the route.

Pep on the other hand will take his time going through every detail. He won't sail before he knows the boat is safe enough. Once he's out there at sea you'll know it's in a solid boat with a well equipped crew. He's able to stay out at sea for a long time and go from harbor to harbor.

That's my Iniesta view on it.

by nasir6371 Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:24 am

messixaviesta wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Silva is immense. 2nd best CAM in the league easily

David Silva has been such a fine player but there's been something missing in his career. I would say it's the big moment(s). He spent the WC 2010 victory on bench. Was a steady performer in three Euros but rarely spectacular. His best has probably come in some league games for ManCity, even a few of the big games, but what he now needs to do is really show himself in UCL and then maybe in WC 2018 as well.

He's on course to be 3rd all time Goal Scorer for Spain, surpassing Fernando Torres at 38 goal Laughing

He's always performed well for Spain while playing on the wing.

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