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Post by Harmonica Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:51 pm

National team goals (games) vs Argentina, Brazil, Chile, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Uruguay

14 (29) Messi (playmaker)
9 (25) Suarez (striker)
7 (20) Neymar (playmaker)
1 (18) Cronaldo (striker)

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:46 am

Yet another loss without Messi....
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:22 pm

Argentina competitive match history per captain

71% win, Messi 25-6-4 in 35 matches, 3x final
64% win, Ayala 28-8-8 in 44 matches, 2x final, 2x quarter-final
59% win, Maradona 20-7-7 in 34 matches, title, final, 3rd, 4th, round 16
42% win, Mascherano 10-6-8 in 24 matches, 2x quarter-final
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Post by Myesyats Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:38 pm

It's amazing how many goalscoring chances he creates... ffs
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Post by RealGunner Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:08 pm



Most iconic moment of 21st century in football?

Changed football



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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:43 am

Truly the greatest of all time. No one better in the past and no one will be better in the future.

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Post by Thimmy Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:50 am

RealGunner wrote:Truly the greatest of all time. No one better in the past and no one will be better in the future.



People used to say the same thing about Pele and Maradona, and neither of us actually watched any of them play live Razz
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Post by McAgger Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:09 am

Well can't really say anything about the future but he's certainly the greatest by a distance up until this point in time.
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Post by Bankz Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:31 am

Lol.. While he is in the argument of being the best of all time, but "By some distance"? Jesus!!! GL at its finest WTF??? btw, other players current and past create as many chances except they hardly have any strong army as harmonica who records their every move tbh

I'm sure if maradona, and pele were to be playing today they would also have as much chances as messi now. Same with dinho, infact same with most other players that are tranquistas or players that play deep generally.

The only difference is messi loves to create and score at the sametime while others usually concentrate on one thing at a time either because of circumstance or ability. For instance I doubt messi will create as much had he been playing in front of dinho nor did he create this much with xavi and iniesta in their prime tbh
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:20 pm

Bankz wrote:Lol.. While he is in the argument of being the best of all time, but "By some distance"? Jesus!!! GL at its finest WTF??? btw, other players current and past create as many chances except they hardly have any strong army as harmonica who records their every move tbh

I'm sure if maradona, and pele were to be playing today they would also have as much chances as messi now. Same with dinho, infact same with most other players that are tranquistas or players that play deep generally.

The only difference is messi loves to create and score at the sametime while others usually concentrate on one thing at a time either because of circumstance or ability. For instance I doubt messi will create as much had he been playing in front of dinho nor did he create this much with xavi and iniesta in their prime tbh
Pele with his professionalism edge in no way or form matched Messi's overall game, nor did Maradona with his doping edge, relatively. Even absolutely with their edges, Messi is better scorer, passer and dribbler than them. Ronaldinho said even receiving Ballon d'Or in his peak that Messi is the better player, how is he going to ever match Messi's peak years, even hypothetically? Nobody is even close in modern football.

League, UCL through balls 09-16

270 Messi (+43%)
09-10 34
10-11 45
11-12 71
12-13 19
13-14 19
14-15 48
15-16 34

189 Fabregas
170 Totti
146 Xavi (09-15)
138 Iniesta
115 Di Maria (10-16)
115 Zlatan
101 Özil

And your Xaviesta comment is obviously wrong.


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Post by rincon Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:24 pm

I like how Pele now has a "professionalism edge".
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:26 pm

rincon wrote:I like how Pele now has a "professionalism edge".
It didn't magically appear when I said it.
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Post by LuckAndWin Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:10 am

Someone's back in the game!!
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Post by Myesyats Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:14 pm

Second goal looked exactly like the one against Bayern in that memorable semi final! What a pleasure to be alive in this generation.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:30 pm

I'm still absolutely disgusted by the horror show that is the City kits lol.
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Post by jibers Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Literally like controlling a player in PES. His ball control when moving with pace is something else.
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:38 pm

By now we all know how good Messi is and obviously is the best. Its just sad though, imagine Ronaldo winning the Ballon D'or this season, that would be Ronaldo able to take 4 out of 9 from Messi.... Razz
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:44 am

BarcaLearning wrote:By now we all know how good Messi is and obviously is the best. Its just sad though, imagine Ronaldo winning the Ballon D'or this season, that would be Ronaldo able to take 4 out of 9 from Messi.... Razz


And? It is a popularity contest. That's not like Messi is just a bit better than Cristiano, the supposed second best player of the generation(which i disagree). Everyone with reasonable football knowledge knows that they're not even in the same class, not even remotely close.

If the criteria was only to be the best player in the world, Messi would have won at least 8 of 9, 2008 would still be Cristiano probably because Messi was too young and Cristiano was already in his peak plus playing for best team at the time.
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