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Post by Myesyats Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:44 am

FennecFox7 wrote:A shit footballer doesn’t start for Barca for all these years. Come on now. He’s a legend and it’s pretty obvious.
Wilshere dominated Xavi and Iniesta, remember?

GL at its peak.

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Post by El Gunner Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:56 am

well he did... for one game, at least hmm
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Post by Thimmy Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:21 pm

El Gunner wrote:well he did... for one game, at least hmm


Yeah, I wasn't one of those who hysterically proclaimed that he would go on to become better than both of them, but he definitely did outshine them both in that one match Is Pique a World Class CB? - Page 6 1f605
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Post by Doc Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:34 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:A shit footballer doesn’t start for Barca for all these years. Come on now. He’s a legend and it’s pretty obvious.

Legend at Barcelona, sure, Barcelona fans can think that and that would be fine. Legend of the game, no, not at all.

But he had a great career that all footballers would love to have.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:13 pm

He will be best remembered as the guy who had Shakira and he blew it!

:facepalm:
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Post by Myesyats Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:59 pm

Doc wrote:
FennecFox7 wrote:A shit footballer doesn’t start for Barca for all these years. Come on now. He’s a legend and it’s pretty obvious.

Legend at Barcelona, sure, Barcelona fans can think that and that would be fine. Legend of the game, no, not at all.

But he had a great career that all footballers would love to have.

Both him and Ramos are legends of the game, even though the latter retard has like 30 red cards to his name.

now shut up
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Post by Clutch Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:32 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Doc wrote:
FennecFox7 wrote:A shit footballer doesn’t start for Barca for all these years. Come on now. He’s a legend and it’s pretty obvious.

Legend at Barcelona, sure, Barcelona fans can think that and that would be fine. Legend of the game, no, not at all.

But he had a great career that all footballers would love to have.

Both him and Ramos are legends of the game, even though the latter retard has like 30 red cards to his name.

now shut up
Ya but one is still playing at a high level and the other is trying to figure out what his next tweet should be

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Post by Doc Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:33 pm

Absolutely disagree to either of them being legends of the game but I have a very high standard for what should be considered a legend of the game.

You shut up now.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:39 pm

‘Shut up, no you shut up’.


Do you guys have to so immature!

By the way, hips don’t lie!!
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Post by Doc Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:34 am

futbol_bill wrote:Do you guys have to so immature!
Yes hmm
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:14 am

Nah Bill, Pique will be remembered to be the guy who cheated on/dumped Shakira more like it Razz Dont forget hes much younger n rich n good looking, ie. tons of young babes lining for him, why would he just stick with Shakira?
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:34 am

I think Pique is one of the best defenders of his generation. He will be remembered for a long time by Barça fans.

However, his overall impact on the sport won't probably be elevated to legend status, and Puyol will probably be remembered most from Barça's period of dominance.
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:26 pm

Pique wasn't even the best CB in the pairing with Mascherano.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:11 pm

I will miss him. The kind of guy that made El Clasico heated. Always loved to hate him - a very interesting character and intriguing adversary.

And a very good footballer too, in my opinion a top 10 central defender of this generation, as a starter in one of the best club teams of all times and of the best national teams of all time. Played for over 10 years at the highest level and won it all. Can’t be anything but world class.

Who would be the top 10 defenders of this generation ? In no order, from my pov:
Ramos
Pepe
T. Silva
Van Dijk
Godin
Chiellini
Kompany
Pique
Boateng/Hummels/Varane/Bonucci ?
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Post by El Gunner Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:51 pm

Bonucci definitely

it's between Thiago Silva and Chiellini as the best

then the rest
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:50 pm

Ramos und Pepe both overrated imho.

Bonucci and Chiellini would be my joint picks for best of the generation.
Wait.
Defenders in general? Or just CBs? If it's CBs, leave the list as is, mostly.

If it's defenders in general, I'll throw Lahm in the mix.
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Post by M99 Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:35 pm

Viva wilding with Bonnuci.

T Silva, Chiellini, Ramos, Pepe, Barzagli, VVD, Kompany, Varane, Godin all ahead of him.
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Post by CBarca Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:20 pm

Pique was a CB for Barca during their period of utter dominance and continued to be a force at the back for years. He had his bad moments like any defender of course, but he performed at a very high level for a long time.

However, I struggle to say "legend of the game". I agree, he is 100% in the upper echelon of Barca legends, but I do not know if one could call him a legend of the game. Was he ever the greatest CB in the world? Was he ever the best even in La Liga? I'm not so sure.
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:09 am

M99 wrote:Viva wilding with Bonnuci.

T Silva, Chiellini, Ramos, Pepe, Barzagli, VVD, Kompany, Varane, Godin all ahead of him.


What can I say I fond Bonucci cheeky AF, great lad. Might've been carried by Chiellini a bit, so maybe you have a point. Except for Pepe and Ramos lol.

Completely spaced on T Silva, maybe he takes the cake anyway. Had some ungodly seasons of control. Beast.
Really leaning towards Chiellini CB wise though.
Might be because I really like the guy.
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:28 pm

I can find fault with most if not all on this list, but we have to recognize how demanding this role is and like keepers the flaws stand out. Do you not recall how bad Silva was in WC, for example.

Ramos is mentioned about his red cards. While I’ll agree some of them were down right stupid and silly, he got a lot of them for his overly aggressive style. He also played with that aggression at RB. But that style helps intimidate the forwards and is a part of his success. And it’s nothing compared to past Spanish great CBs such as Goikoetxoe, the butcher of Bilbao or Nadal from Barcelona. Plus he made huge contributions with his heading ability, his scoring ability and his great leadership ability. To me, if Puyol is on the list, which is a must for me, then Ramos is also there.

And regarding Pepe, you can’t disregard him if you have Varane or Pique on list. i find all 3 of them comparable if you examine their prime seasons.

To me though, top of the list is Chiellini!
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:48 pm

I still dont understand T.Silva, as Bill said, for Brazil hes overrated as? Maybe cos I didnt watch him much b4 Chelsea, n he isnt exactly great, not to mention PSG, just never convincing defensively. Definitely will see how he does at this WC Razz
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Post by El Gunner Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:10 pm

Puyol is from the 00s generation, i believe that's why he wasn't mentioned.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:18 pm

futbol_bill wrote:He will be best remembered as the guy who had Shakira and he blew it!

:facepalm:

Shakira is so controlling! She didnt want to marry him "to keep him on his toes", she's a walking red flag, to say that after 10 years+ of relationship

I'm not surprised he cheated and split, although her not wanting to marry is kinda reasonable from her pov for financial reasons but still
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Post by farfan Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:24 pm

Not to be a raging agist, but why are we acting like Shakira is still a catch in 2022? hmm
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Post by Warrior Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:39 pm

Can't think of a more annoying voice. Would never date :coffee:
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Post by Myesyats Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:46 pm

farfan wrote:Not to be a raging agist, but why are we acting like Shakira is still a catch in 2022? hmm

Yeah and Pique's new gf is 23 Laughing
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