What Mahrez is doing with Leicester is a lot more credible than what Maradona did with Napoli

Cookie Monster wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I think my Gif debunks it tbh, even the worse PL sides today wouldn't allow what the great Milan allowed to happen

The past

For sure. Aston Villa's defending today was amazing. EPL best league in the world. Anyone who debates that is stupid. Leicester will win CL next year 100% with City, Tott and Arsenal in the semis.

The mad

As awful as Villa are there is no chance they allow the most dangerous man on the pitch that much space. Fact is with each generation teams and managers learn and adapt, even Guardiola's Barca team wouldn't be as successful today.

Just funny how much people gush over the past when there's just as many faults from a tactical and technical point of view as there is today.

farfan wrote:At least we put the " Ozil is more deserving of POTY " talk to rest .

farfan wrote:Mehrez.
There ,i  said it.

Mole Yes because they flopped on that one instance it means one of the widely considered best teams in history were actually dirt average. Right.

I have to concede, that's some crap defending, its almost as if they had to work together lmao

Mole is right, the past is overrated, the best times are now. We get to see the greatest frontline in the history of sport miss penalties and have a laugh about it every week, Ranieri winning a league title in 2016, Spurs contending, PSG securing league titles for the next decade, Boateng, Chiellini and Ramos considered as the best defenders, Belgium a legitimate team in Euros, Wenger still having a job, referees stopping a play every 2 mins for a peck on the cheek, the same 2-3 teams in semis every year and Italy basically a non-factor in Europe bar Juve.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Mole Yes because they flopped on that one instance it means one of the widely considered best teams in history were actually dirt average. Right.

Where did i say that? teams are a lot smarter defensively today for that reason though. No team would ever allow that to happen today and if i were to bother to watch full matches i'd probably find more.

Not sure why people get butthurt over this tbh, they were great for their time but teams evolve and adapt over time and what made them great then wouldn't get away with now. There's a reason why no one defends like that anymore, they would get creamed on a regular basis.

But you're discrediting them in that time period judging by those standards. You're not saying "If Sacchi's Milan were to play in 2016 they would get creamed", you're saying "Napoli's achievement is overrated because they had to face this kind of defense". Yes tactics change constantly and evolve but that doesn't make them bad, especially not against teams in their own time period.

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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The mad

As awful as Villa are there is no chance they allow the most dangerous man on the pitch that much space. Fact is with each generation teams and managers learn and adapt, even Guardiola's Barca team wouldn't be as successful today.

Just funny how much people gush over the past when there's just as many faults from a tactical and technical point of view as there is today.

Who's mad? I'm agreeing with you.

The past was awful. Every "good" or "legendary" team were only so because of how awful the football was back then.

Mahrez >>>>> Maradona, Pele, pretty much everyone because he's playing in probably the best league in history. I mean, the league is so competitive that even a team like Newcastle is battling it out in relegation zone!

As far Villa goes, you're totally right. They didn't give Aguero a sniff of the ball all game.

It's actually crazy how on point you are with everything! Top TOP poster.

I can't tell who's serious and who's trolling in this thread

Mahrez is doing something special but to say Leicester is a one man show is ridiculous

And like Futbol said this is the weakest PL I've seen in my life

I can say seriously and very confidently Leicester wouldn't even be top 5 in La Liga or Serie A. This is more every team in the PL competing to find more elaborate ways to choke than Mahrez dragging an underdog team to the top with miraculous skill and Maradona-esque play.

And Mole you have got to be kidding me. I could find worse defending in five minutes of watching a PL game. Of course it wouldn't look like that, but don't pretend there aren't ridiculous examples of set piece marking, one on one defending, goal keeper errors, poor touches, etc.

No one's claiming the past teams were perfect. But to say 80s Serie A wasn't at a higher level than the current joke PL is is just ludicrious. Not to mention contrary to what you're always saying about football having declined and being more boring now than it was in the past

Thankfully this thread won't be revisited when Leicester fail to win EPL.

Good day.

RG creates a troll thread and it devolves into garbage.

Wasn't the offside rule during Sacchi's time different? Here are some examples of it working:

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On topic, I personally think Maradona's achievement was better since he faced stronger opponents.

what leicester as a whole, especially ranieri r doing is very impressive. i've caught some of their games and mahrez is no joke. based on their previous position, history and all those things, its probably more impressive than napoli...however, let's not pretend like the big clubs haven't been garbage for some seasons now, chelsea, utd, liverpool...u know its something when arsenal are doing better than the first 3 mentioned, and even arsenal choke. its almost like the pl nobody wants to win. oh unless ofcourse these "top" sides are better than matthaus' inter, platini's juve, gullit's milan etc, then u have a point. but it's certainly more impressive than the higuain title that his club were prematurely crowned with here on gl....

btw the greatest player diego played with at napoli was careca (and maybe ferrara, who was a rookie), and careca, though good, wasn't close to being an all time great...if leicester wins though, it will definitely be one of the biggest upsets in league football. kinda like how sociedad almost won the la liga title. them even qualifying for ucl is huge

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

futbol wrote:Difference is the Premier League is absolutely garbage. Competition is Louis van Gaal's red army, Wenger's bottle boys and Tottenham (who are so irrelevant I can't even bother to give them a nickname). Napoli were competing against Sacchi's Milan, Platini's Juventus etc. Milan won back-to-back Champions Leagues in that era and Juventus also won the Champions League in 85. English clubs in this era can't even get past the round of 16.

It's a huge achievement if they do it but the league is lacking so much quality it almost spoils the whole thing. Premier League is what Bundesliga was a few years ago before Bayern became elite and random teams like Stuttgart went from 9th place to title winners or Hertha from 4th place to relegation. Unless they also stay competitive next seasons it's just a statistical outliner like Chelsea's current shit season.

Oh, and of course Mahrez is producing nowhere near Maradona's football.

"The shape looks good"

Not sure what that gif is supposed to prove. I can post the gif of Puyol doing the splits against Di Maria with 2 players in Barca's own half and pretend that was the standard of defending in this era. When Milan won the league in 89 they conceded 14 goals the entire season, that's the bigger picture. Right now in England the fiercest defense belongs to Tottenham () with 24 goals conceded in 29 games and they can't even shut down an average European team in bad form with Welbeck leading the line after they are down to 10 men, at home, when the league title is on line. That's how "fierce" the fiercest defense in England is right now.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

farfan wrote:At least we put the " Ozil is more deserving of POTY " talk to rest .

farfan wrote:Mehrez.
There ,i  said it.

What is this supposed to prove ? that i did a 180 because of a joke posted in August ?

It's Mole though. He literally is disagreeing for disagreeing sake.

For that time Maradona was the best. Compared today he is not.
Mehrez can do it without a problem if defending today was in slow motion like it was in 86

Comparing direct contribution for Mahrez for Leicesters first and Maradona Napoli's first, it's a no-brainer.

From this list alone "one man teams" more than Maradona in Napoli's first scudetto.

Romario 93-94
Ronaldo 96-97
Rivaldo 98-99
Ronaldinho 06-07
Mahrez 15-16
Higuain 15-16
Messi 09-10, 10-11, 11-12, 12-13, 14-15

Certainly more impressive than Suarez and Bale

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Shut up idiot. Arsenal is mathematically out of the title race you stupid idiot. Your jinxing will only give Spurs the title. Do you understand what I am saying to you right now? Stop this immediately.

RG kind of wants Spurs to win it though that's the thing.

Spurs are playing like Arsenal would be if Wenger hadn't lost the plot and Giroud was anything more than a large traffic cone that occasionally has balls bounce off of him into the goal

He sees Arsenal in Spurs and he wants it to happen because then he can start to believe again. RG has fallen into delusion, yes, but he still has hope.

Praying for you RG

If Spurs win this, RG should be banned from GL and flogged in the road.

People thinking Spurs winning a league title is actually a possibility.

Ok.

zigra wrote:People thinking Spurs winning a league title is actually a possibility.

Ok.

But but.. it's still mathematically possible isn't it?