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Post by M99 Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:35 pm

Inter rofl

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Post by breva Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:47 am

I don't know if any of you are old enough to remember DC comic's Bizzaro. DC was the publisher of Superman and Superboy etc. Bizarros were the opposite of Superman and they had a B on their chest instead of an S. They were bad. The creator describes them below:

"I was striving, you might say, for that mirror-image, that opposite. And out of a machine which would reveal the negative Superman, came the mirror image — always remembering that in a mirror everything is reversed... The times were such that one-dimensional characters, your standard superheroes, even in comics, seemed rather simplistic, like paper cut-outs. What was demanded was the full dimensional personality — a figure that carried a shadow, if you like. I was certainly inspired to some degree also by C.G. Jung's archetype of "the shadow" — and Bizarro certainly reflected that, as well.

— Alvin Schwarz"

While watching the game, I saw Kondogbia as the Bizarro of Pogba.
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Post by Cookie Monster Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:25 am

Except Bizzaro can actually rival superman and has beaten him. Whereas Kondogbia is trash and hasn't shown any similarity to pogba in ability or talent. Sooo, idk, idk about that comparison.
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Post by Katy Perry Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:28 am

FFS :facepalm: Can't believe I was fooled into believing that Inter could have a shot at winning the league :facepalm: . They do it every single time, they have a great half of the season/couple of months GOATing where they really look like the best team in Serie A only to ruin it all averaging relegation teams points in the next months.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:50 am

When you read Milan fans you think they are going to win the league . They are still back us even if we don't win a match since 30 B.C.

and Murillo made better than Nestagnoli tbh


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Post by farfan Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:01 am

So after all the early surprises and unexpected dark horses, at the end of the day we'll get the usual Juve/Napoli/ Roma top 3. Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:10 am

farfan wrote:So after all the early surprises and unexpected dark horses, at the end of the day we'll get the usual Juve/Napoli/ Roma top 3. Laughing

^ imo the football is dead. Just the Premier League gives unpredictability .. for the rest the football in 2000s is the most boring sport. The great CL in '99-'00 who destroyed 2 European cups (creating the gap ) and the FFP (consolidating the gap ) have reduced this sport in dust .. I can spoil the next league winners of next 10 years.
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Post by Kaladin Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:23 am

Murillo is shaping up to be the next Zapata with all these mistakes Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:47 am

We paid him just 8 mln not 25 mln and he was great (not just average) in first half , while he is having some difficuties in second half , logic because of age.  I don't get what he was wrong yesterday though .Then ok  we haven't the luck to be like  AC Milan that they  have the new Buffon the new Nesta the new Alaba   (:  weird they are sucking like us (:
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Post by Kaladin Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:51 am

Relax, lets not get into technicalities. You have the best keeper, the best defence, the Serie A capocanoniere of last season, a world class manager and the backing of an Indonesian tycoon. You will get there before us.
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Post by Cookie Monster Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:12 pm

AC has at least resembled a solid team at times this year. In fact,  over the past 20 games they've been the most in form team of the 4 teams vying for 3rd place and have a pretty decent record.

Inter, on the other hand, scraped through most of their 1-0 wins thanks to Handonovic and now are finally being made to pay for their mediocrity. I think they're quite easily the weakest of the teams fighting for 3rd.

Regardless, Roma will finish 3rd most likely.

And Romagnoli > Murillo lel. Fur surr
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:17 pm

If you only take into account the last 10 matches Milan are 3rd and Inter are 9th:

http://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/formtabelle/wettbewerb/IT1?saison_id=2015&min=16&max=26
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:18 pm

ES wrote:Better than whatever Wijnaldum does on a regular basis


Comparing yourself to a player of a relegation team :bow:

Anyway it isn't.... Honda has 1 goal in 25 games which the keeper should save.

Where as Wijnaldum has 9 in 22 games. hmm
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Post by farfan Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:49 pm

Honda sucks .
He's only hyped by the annoying japanophiles who have a habit of inflating japanese players' abilities for some reason .
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Post by Cookie Monster Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Honda has been painfully average for most of his time spent in Serie A.

However, when given game time and confidence, he can actually be quite a good player. As he demonstrated early in his time with Milan. To be fair to the guy, once Miha actually started playing him this year, he's been one of our best players and has recently put in some MOTM performances.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:54 pm

So if Milan gets  a decent score (playing against the worst Serie A teams of the moment,  included us .have you seen the Milan calendar ? ) it is because solid ,if Inter did it it is just for Handanovic . Dat coherence Sad

I like just Bonaventura and Bacca in Milan , the only two to envy them , the rest is meh lol . Despite Milan spent 100 mln this year no team did it not even close . Well , still I don't get why we lst 3-0 against them but perhaps it was enough icardi scored the penalty kick and the referee gave the Red card for Alex  , I haven't idea why he did not do it

Inter are a good team imo underachieved from Mancini , my idea .
If Mancini will be sacked I feel we ll sign Bielsa because he is the closest thing to God for Javier Zanetti
But i don t.believe he will.be sacked
Tavecchio is the only hope


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Post by Robespierre Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:55 pm

farfan wrote:Honda sucks .
He's only hyped by the annoying japanophiles who have a habit of inflating japanese players' abilities for some reason .


Like 99.9% of Japanese players
Saponara is better

Cookie Monster wrote:I think they're quite easily the weakest of the 3rd


Yet you ' re back in table , the rest are talks . Typical Berlusconi mentality
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Post by Cookie Monster Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:26 pm

OK bud.

I guess you missed the part where I mentioned that based on the recent string of games, inter is the weakest. Compare their records for the past 15-20 games and see for yourself. Or pay a visit to the inter forums and hear how trash your team is from your fellow fans.

And just bacca and bona eh? Can't say there's a single inter player I'd rather have in Milan lol.
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Post by rincon Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:37 pm

I think Inter has the better players than Milan or Fiore, but they just don't seem to work well together. Be it due to Macini or the players, it doesn't fit. Fiore has the weakest squad no doubt.

Milan could really build something from their team, it seems like they are finally clicking. They just need to remove some scrubs and they'll be set. The keeper is set. The FBs are good. Romagnoli needs a reliable partner, it keeps changing between Alex and Zapata (and Ely at first). Bacca and Niang are good, Menez is even better but we don't know how he'll come back. Adraino and Balo just seem done. So one more striker to replace those 2. The midfield is the biggest puzzle, Bertolacci hasn't settled while Bona, Kucka and Montolivo have been great. With Honda as well they are fine.

3-4 good signings and some continuity to their play and they can catch/surpass Roma.

I'm not sure how to fix Inter though... Icardi, Jovetic, Eder, Kondogbia, Brozovic, Miranda, Handanovic, D'Ambrosio, Medel, Melo thats a potentially excellent team. I like to think its not Mancini since I like him, but maybe its not the players but him.
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Post by M99 Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:52 pm

Robespierre wrote:So if Milan gets  a decent score (playing against the worst Serie A teams of the moment,  included us .have you seen the Milan calendar ? ) it is because solid ,if Inter did it it is just for Handanovic . Dat coherence Sad

I like just Bonaventura and Bacca in Milan , the only two to envy them , the rest is meh lol . Despite Milan spent 100 mln this year no team did it not even close . Well , still I don't get why we lst 3-0 against them but perhaps it was enough icardi scored the penalty kick and the referee gave the Red card for Alex  , I haven't idea why he did not do it

Inter are a good team imo underachieved from Mancini , my idea .
If Mancini will be sacked I feel we ll sign Bielsa because he is the closest thing to God for Javier Zanetti
But i don t.believe he will.be sacked
Tavecchio is the only hope


You lost because you got outplayed lol. You are talking about the referee but you are conveniently forgetting the 100 fouls Inter got way with. Besides the referee did not have anything to do with Murillo turning into Chris Brown and breakdancing in front of Bonaventura.
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Post by Casciavit Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:56 pm

Honda is average, but their is nothing wrong with saying he's on good form lately, which he is.
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Post by Cookie Monster Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:59 pm

Inter are the best. They're gonna win the league.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:34 pm

But outplayed where ?
How many chances you created ?
I think it was a deserved win , let's be clear, simply because Milan made more to win than us, played with more determination , the typical attitude to have in a derby while Inter have the typical attitudine to slap, terribly indolent and this reflects the own coaches.
Sinisa for me is an average coach but he prepares every match like a war, it can be both a negative factor  both a positive factor. In this case okay.
Mancini is acting like a chicken and the team melted away.
I realize it's difficult to base a football discussion if the matter is the luck or jiinx, but indeed Inter in first period was another team. It had the balls. Inter turned after Inter-Lazio , also because the empathy between Mancini and team broke ( someone reported it here , maybe even a Milan fan . It was reported by Gazzetta. I believe it was true , looking the following matches. And Gazzetta is informed about it ) .. besides the matter luck / jinx should be deleted after last Inter matches where we were never lucky but anyway..

But expecialy, itt makes me perplexed the Milan fans are used to say now that Inter are shit .... Inter is definitely the most weakened team of first 6 ,....Murillo is the new Zapata... Inter are ridiclous.. Milan are better etc when they passed 3+ ?  4 ? 5 ????  months to write posts on posts about  " Inter are going to win the league " , " Serie A title is prepared for Inter " , " Inter are back" , because they had an incredible fear about Inter .
It looks like if just I remind it Laughing
Not even we Inter fans rated our team so highly, I said also we 're going to collapse after Inter-Lazio ( my posts testify it ).
At least I don't change idea about Milan based on moments.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:44 pm

Can't believe Robes won the 'most objective poster' award.

Most lovely English-speaking poster? Yes.
Most knowledgeable poster? Absolutely.
All around fantastic poster and guy? Yes, yes, and yes.

But most 'objective'?! Pls go.
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Post by Cookie Monster Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:48 pm

Let's get one thing straight. I'm the one saying inter are trash and that they have been riding their luck. An opinion that anyone who has watched them this year should also hold. An opinion that I've held from the start of the season.

So careful with your broad statements accusing Milan fans in general of flip flopping on their opinion of inter.
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Post by Kaladin Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:49 pm

Did you not say that you knew 'The season was over' when Icardi missed the penalty post match after the derby? Is that not a moment?

No one said Inter is shit, only Cookie criticized Inter heavily as a lucky side reliant on Handa, i was just poking a bit of fun at Murillo, just like in the beginning of the season people poked fun at Romagnoli.

Its only these results recently that Milan started to evolve from the gruesome mess it was in the beginning of the season. Heck, we beat Fiorentina at home didn't we? (We haven't won at home against them in 4 years). Still, Milan has a lot of holes, and i highly doubt we'll finish 3rd-4th.
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