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Post by Robespierre Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:02 pm

It is a well-known thing.
" Balotelli can't wait for Euro 2016 "
" To watch it on tv  ? "

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Post by salmano9 Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:10 pm

Hahahahaha LOL Nice one.
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Post by Dante Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:25 pm

Robespierre wrote:It is a well-known thing.
" Balotelli can't wait for Euro 2016 "
" To watch it on tv  ? "


i remember this , legendary quote  rofl  

Robespierre wrote:It won't happen though , for his past Juve and we won't have again a Lippi-bis after the awful experience in 2000.
i 'd not be even against this because I appreciate him as coach ... but it never will happen.
He might be next Milan manager conversely

Today he was at San Siro to watch the match
When BAlotelli entered in pitch in 88'
He left the stadium Laughing


yeah , poor Balotelli . Wasn't it 85 minute doe ?

anyway Conte didn't even get to see the sitter he missed , poor unlucky Mario (:

As for Conte , hmm , no way he leaves before the Euro , unless they would kick him out , of which there's no chance whatsoever. No , after the Euro i agree , he's most certainly gone from the NT .

As for where he would end up i couldn't tell .. i do hope he'll end up at Milan though . He's in my opinion the best candidate for the job out there , at least this summer . Certainly better than Mihajlovic , although he does his best .

Conte to join Milan would be the best news in years for Milan and we'd finally get to watch something that won't be Galliani's Milan , but the actual view and work of the coach . This isn't even Mihajlovic's Milan , Mihajlovic did as he was told by Berlusconi at first , played 4-3-1-2 and failed , tried to play what he wanted after with 4-3-3 but failed too because it was really unbalanced with the team Galliani left him to 'succeed with' and then settled with what Inzaghi did anyway , play as a provincial team , and hope for the best. He's getting the sack 1000% no matter how he manages this season , he could win Serie A playing like that and he would still get the sack like Zaccheroni

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Only him from Serie A coaches can rescue Milan from this . Sometimes i imagine what it would be like , someone like Conte who will ostracize all the fodder , keep only those who fit whatever his plans will be , ask and get players he would need and only them , say no to Galliani's guru shit and actually assemble a team that will suit each other .. Oh it would almost be as good as winning the CL once again
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Post by Vibe Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:30 pm

Jesus, in 2016, Berlusconi still forces the 4-3-1-2?
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:33 pm

Yes, it was in '85' , not '88 !.

I still remind when Allegri got the 3rd place after a comeback with the 4-3-3 but Berlusconi wanted to go back with 4-3-1-2 and at the end Allegri was sacked.
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Post by Dante Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:49 pm

Vibe wrote:Jesus, in 2016, Berlusconi still forces the 4-3-1-2?


of course. Always , every season has been like that. Even from Ancelotti's days it was always like that. Ancelotti would have Kaka play a little more in front , like a second striker and after 10-15 minutes when he knew Berlusconi would stop watching to see if he did like he wanted , he had Kaka to play deeper and form his christmas tree .. damn Carlo was smart Proud

That was one example , there's literally something each and every season with the 4-3-1-2 for like at least a decade , probably more , usually early on in the season. The time this formation was our thing is so long gone it's not even funny anymore.

Robespierre wrote:Yes, it was in '85' , not '88  !.

I still remind when Allegri got the 3rd place after a comeback with the 4-3-3 but Berlusconi wanted to go back with 4-3-1-2 and at the end Allegri was sacked.


True.. However they brought Kaka back , so Allegri really had no option but give it his best. Not his fault the utter parody we were that season too couldn't do it .

If only someone told him that 4-3-1-2 isn't actually the holy grail of formations... if only

Because truth be told , the formation by itself isn't at all bad , it could be great if you have the right players. Problem is we would need to spend unreal money to get the fullbacks we would need to play that , also an exquisite striker and at least 3 really important midfielders who can keep the ball all day long... definitely ball playing CB too .

So all in all it's not necessarily the formation per se that is bad , it's that this roster can't succeed playing like this. Just from the fullbacks it's a massive nope , put aside the rest . Being a wingless formation means the fullbacks need to be the shit to make this work and Abate and De Sciglio are just shit. If we need to spend now , to play proper 4-3-1-2 in 2016 we would need double the money , one absolutely needs the best , or close to the best fullbacks to make it work .

and much more to be said , in short Berlusconi is just delusional , nothing more . I've no issue with the 4-3-1-2 but in 2016 , it isn't as simple as it used to be 10 years ago , let's leave it at that.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:54 pm

Vibe wrote:Jesus, in 2016, Berlusconi still forces the 4-3-1-2?

Well , he still believes in the " Communist danger " hmm
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Post by Dante Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:20 am

Mihajlovic: "My goal is to return to 4-3-1-2 when everyone is back, especially Menez"

see , this is why we need Conte
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Post by breva Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:13 am

It is amazing how a good goalkeeper can stop anything thrown at him against Inter, yet allow everything to go by when playing against Napoli.
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:56 am

Most assists this season :

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Post by juvealbanian Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:24 am

All hail King Dymbala Very Happy
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:06 pm

Would it be accurate to say that Higuain has been POTY of the year so far with Dybala a distant second?
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:37 pm

No.
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Post by Vibe Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:39 pm

Why not? It's about like that.
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:42 pm

Because i dont think Dybala's a 'distant' second.
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Post by Firenze Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:43 pm

i imagine i'm late on this but how does this happen rofl


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Post by Vibe Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:45 pm

S wrote:Because i dont think Dybala's a 'distant' second.


No one can touch Higuain, and Dybala took a few games before getting into it, so distant is about right.
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:47 pm

Vibe wrote:
S wrote:Because i dont think Dybala's a 'distant' second.


No one can touch Higuain, and Dybala took a few games before getting into it, so distant is about right.


So ?

Not only he assists the most in the league,he creates the most chances per game in the league.

He definitely is right up there with Higuain as far as POTY is concerned.
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Post by Vibe Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:54 pm

He's a distant second and if you close that whoscored tab and return to the real world it will become much clearer.

Higuain has been on it from day 1 and is head and shoulders above anyone else.

If you add together all Dybala's goals and assists he is still behind Higuain.
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:57 pm

Or maybe you need to watch more (Juventus) games...

Anyway,its a long season.Still 18 more games left.
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Post by Vibe Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:02 pm

Calma Tendulkar.

He said so far, so remaining games aren't in the equation.

No one is on the level of Higuain this season in Serie A and any different claim is straightforward fanboyism.
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:05 pm

Vibe wrote:No one is on the level of Higuain this season in Serie A and any different claim is straightforward fanboyism.


No.

Saying Higuain is on another 'level' compared to others is fanboyism.
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Post by Vibe Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:07 pm

But I hate Higuain and have expressed that multiple times, even today Laughing
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Post by Kaladin Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:09 pm

Pretty sure Bonaventura creates more than Dybala per game iirc
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Post by Vibe Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:10 pm

Surag trying to win arguments with lies, nothing new :coffee:
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Post by S Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:13 pm

Vibe wrote:But I hate Higuain and have expressed that multiple times, even today Laughing


I dont know.

But its also ridiculous to dismiss how good other players have been even if its different positions including your own Handanovic who's been a match winner for your team as well.

Higuain has been the best but there are others who are catching up.Stop overhyping just for the sake of an argument :coffee:
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