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Post by RED Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:32 pm

Proving to be an egotistical buffoon, a stubborn one at that.

Almost (can't believe I'm going to say this, never thought it'd come to this) as bad as Moyes last season. Taking things into consideration like availability of good players and money spent in the summer. Some would say he's doing worse.

Funny how as soon as we change to a back four, we look much more threatening up front and created chances and instantly scored too. (exactly a min after he switched formation).

Everyone can see that this 3-5-2 is holding us back, but him. even the frigging Utd fans on the stands were chanting '4-4-2'.

Odd tactics galore, odd subs galore, atrocious boring football. Square pegs in round holes. trying to shoehorn all our best players to one team. Struggling to create chances and play the slowest brand of pointless possession football. Ugh!

Been so underwhelmed by him. He talks a good game, has the confidence and swagger to manage Utd, but this man's ego is on another level. wants to badly prove his managerial intelligence by enforcing this garbage system of his, over-complicating the basics of football.

He carries this on and it will be his undoing at the club. No top 4 and he is gone imo.

Disclaimer: I'm not clamouring for him to get sacked. But he's not making it easier to support him by his odd decisions every week.

Also Jones as our CK taker today rofl


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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:33 pm

Something about this pos that I really don't like.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:34 pm

RED wrote:Proving to be an egotistical buffoon, a stubborn one at that.

Almost (can't believe I'm going to say this, never thought it'd come to this) as bad as Moyes last season. Taking things into consideration of availability of good players and money spent in the summer. Some would say he's doing worse.

Funny how as soon as we change to a back four, we look much more threatening up front and created chances and instantly scored too. (exactly a min after he switched formation).

Everyone can see that this 3-5-2 is holding us back, but him. even the frigging Utd fans on the stands were chanting '4-4-2'.

Odd tactics galore, odd subs galore, atrocious boring football. Square pegs in round holes. trying to shoehorn all our best players to one team. Struggling to create chances and play the slowest brand of pointless possession football. Ugh!

Been so underwhelmed by him. He talks a good game, has the confidence and swagger to manage Utd, but this man's ego is on another level. wants to badly prove his managerial intelligence by enforcing this garbage system of his, over-complicating the basics of football.

He carries this on and it will be his undoing at the club. No top 4 and he is gone imo.

Disclaimer: I'm not clamouring for him to get sacked. But he's not making it easier to support him by his odd decisions every week.

Also Jones as our CK taker today rofl





Proud Maybe you'll do a Juve and stick with it for 3 years regardless rofl
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Post by farfan Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:03 pm

being a coach must be irritating  .

it's one of the few professions in the world where even after decades of experience and accomplishments , you still get 20 something nobodies with 0 first hand experience in the business in any capacity calling you an idiot and pretending like they know your job better than you .
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Post by RED Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:36 pm

A great CV should absolve him from criticism, eh? Sound logic.

Playing Di Maria as a striker. Laughing

Playing Rooney as a CM. Laughing

Making Jones take our corner kicks Laughing

Playing a formation that clearly isn't working.

Odd subs here and there that don't make sense half the time.

Nah, he's a got a great CV and he knows what he's doing, Rolling Eyes  when performances on the pitch suggests otherwise. Every week it's staring him directly in the face yet he's too stubborn to change it.

Don't care what t f__ he's achieved in the past. That's history. What I care about is United, and at the moment he has us playing awful football and depending on good fortune and De Gea to get us points- far too much for my liking. He has spent a fortune, he has class attacking players at his disposal...play them in the right formation and positions. It's not rocket science ffs. If us "nobodies" can see it, then why can't someone with an impressive CV and is paid millions can't?
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Post by farfan Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:47 pm

the " nobodies " also thought that Robben wasn"t a Guardiola player , that Fabregas wasn't a Mourinho player , that Costa would flop in england, that Ancelotti's trio of Di maria-alonso-Modric was too light and wouldn't work etc...

we're still in january , let the man do his job ffs .

and it's not like this Man u team deserves higher than third or fourth place anyway .
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Post by VendettaRed07 Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:00 pm

This is true

Yet it doesn't matter because they will probably still finish above us

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Post by Uncanny Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:11 pm

Ganso wrote:it was all pretty ok, until i read this

The guy has Phil fcking Jones taking corners for his team


Laughing


Bahaha this is the funniest
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:13 pm

No way Phil Jones took a corner today? Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:18 pm

Ordering coffee while during post match conference Proud



calling QPR, Queens park Raisins Proud



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Post by Onyx Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:22 pm

Maybe he forgot to edit the set piece taker before the match and couldn't be bothered during the game. hmm

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Post by Busby Babe Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:47 pm

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Post by El Gunner Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:52 pm

Busby Babe wrote:Van Gaal is a clown - Page 2 AhsktdQ
look at him Laughing
Raising his hands like he knows what he's doing Proud
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Post by Katy Perry Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:08 pm

Let's all calm down. United won today and guess who scored the winning goal? A player he subbed in. Usually when that happens the manager takes applauses, not insults.

He's a manager that experiments a lot, United knew it when they appointed him, sometimes they pay off, other times they don't and it's not right to say his experiments failed, where were you when United had a winning streak with the 3-5-2? And it's too early to tell that the ADM-Rooney's experiment is bad as Rooney has been great in midfield and ADM has just returned from injury and is new at his role. And it's not like you see goals from every corner, plus Jones is very new at taking them. Give him time, let him take as much corners as possible and the assists will come.

It's not like United is ready to fight for the title yet, 3rd/4th place after few months is what was expected from United.

LvGKB, give him all the money he needs to fix the ashes left by that nuclear disaster named Moyes.
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Post by Casciavit Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:10 pm

farfan wrote:the " nobodies " also thought that Robben wasn"t a Guardiola player , that Fabregas wasn't a Mourinho player , that Costa would flop in england, that Ancelotti's trio of Di maria-alonso-Modric was too light and wouldn't work etc...

we're still in january , let the man do his job ffs .

and it's not like this Man u team deserves higher than third or fourth place anyway .


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Post by CBarca Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:20 pm

If letting Phil Jones take a corner and playing ADM as a striker while Rooney plays in midfield all while playing extremely boring football is how LvG is going to go forward, then I honestly think myself being a nobody could likely do better. Or many people here for that matter.

I hate the sentiment that people back home can't criticize their manager because they don't have the same experience or knowledge or whatever. LvG is clearly being an idiot in more ways than one, so I reserve the right to call him an idiot.
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Post by futbol Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:31 pm

His reputation is hilarious though for someone who has won 1 major title since 1999. There were discussions on Redcafe whether he is the best foreign manager of all time in the summer before he even coached 1 game. "Mourinho's mentor", "the mastermind behind prime Barca and prime Bayern", "DAT goalkeeper substitution in the WC." Laughing

His next step will be replacing De Gea with Valdes. He's always had his weird goalkeeper choices. This is the man who wanted Thomas Kraft ahead of Neuer, gave Barca 10+ years of Valdes brainfarts and made Cillessen his #1 for Netherlands although he's bang average at everything bar distribution. Embrace it, United fans.

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Post by RED Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:02 pm

farfan wrote:the " nobodies " also thought that Robben wasn"t a Guardiola player , that Fabregas wasn't a Mourinho player , that Costa would flop in england, that Ancelotti's trio of Di maria-alonso-Modric was too light and wouldn't work etc...

we're still in january , let the man do his job ffs .

and it's not like this Man u team deserves higher than third or fourth place anyway .

1) That was all presumptions that turned out to be wrong.

2) We are seeing with our bare own eyes that his system and tactics isn't working. Big difference.

3) I don't care whether we are deserving to be 3rd or 4th. The fact of the matter is, we are playing some of the dullest football in the league, handicapped by a formation the players are not suited to play in.

RealGunner wrote:Ordering coffee while during post match conference Proud



calling QPR, Queens park Raisins Proud



raisins rofl

We can play vines on the forum now :bow: Brilliant addition to the site.
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Post by RED Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:06 pm

Fußball wrote:His reputation is hilarious though for someone who has won 1 major title since 1999. There were discussions on Redcafe whether he is the best foreign manager of all time in the summer before he even coached 1 game. "Mourinho's mentor", "the mastermind behind prime Barca and prime Bayern", "DAT goalkeeper substitution in the WC." Laughing

His next step will be replacing De Gea with Valdes. He's always had his weird goalkeeper choices. This is the man who wanted Thomas Kraft ahead of Neuer, gave Barca 10+ years of Valdes brainfarts and made Cillessen his #1 for Netherlands although he's bang average at everything bar distribution. Embrace it, United fans.


Any manager would have been heralded after Moyes tbh, such was our desperation after suffering 10 months of that loser. And tbf, LVG did warrant some respect.

Many on there are slowly turning now, which is no surprise. It's been coming, results masked it and postponed things.
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Post by guest_07 Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:13 am

Fußball wrote:His reputation is hilarious though for someone who has won 1 major title since 1999. There were discussions on Redcafe whether he is the best foreign manager of all time in the summer before he even coached 1 game. "Mourinho's mentor", "the mastermind behind prime Barca and prime Bayern", "DAT goalkeeper substitution in the WC." Laughing

His next step will be replacing De Gea with Valdes. He's always had his weird goalkeeper choices. This is the man who wanted Thomas Kraft ahead of Neuer, gave Barca 10+ years of Valdes brainfarts and made Cillessen his #1 for Netherlands although he's bang average at everything bar distribution. Embrace it, United fans.


add to that, the same man who said something to riquelme even before he start playing his first game for barca,
"You aren’t my player, I don’t need you here – find yourself a team to go to on loan"

the source: http://blog.paddypower.com/2014/05/09/graham-hunter-what-manchester-united-fans-should-know-about-louis-van-gaal-the-potential-fireworks-with-wayne-rooney-and-the-class-of-2014/

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Post by Doc Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:05 am

This is the same man that used Rivaldo as a left winger and decided for a couple games the rather slow Riquelme was well suited for the wing.

Whilst I agree with Farfan that he is way above my pay grade in football, the guy is still does ridiculous things and there is no harm or shame in pointing it out.
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Post by CBarca Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:52 pm

Can't beat Cambridge rofl
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Post by M99 Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:44 pm

Oxford>>>>>>
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Post by Gil Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:52 pm

You have to commend Real for getting £60m for Di Maria. That's one hell of a price for another Nani, even PSG weren't that stupid.
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Post by Red Alert Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:29 am

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Why Cambridge want replay: MUFC have avg match income of £3.86m. Cambridge would get 45% (£1.7m). From ONE game. Their annual income: £1.6m.

Good guy van Gaal :wub:
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:45 am

So basically, the key to riches is to take over some broke, cheap as hell nothing team for about £5 and get yourself a cup tie with a Premier league team. Get the match income, take it for yourself and bail?


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