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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:00 pm

United with dat grit and steel

Playing with RVP is like playing with a man down so when the demons inside Rooney decided to give him a break United ended up with two men down.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:04 pm

NORTH LONDON DERBY TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEee

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Chambers, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs, Wilshere, Arteta, Ramsey, Ozil, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Welbeck.

Tottenham XI: Lloris, Naughton, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Rose; Capoue, Mason; Chadli, Eriksen, Lamela; Adebayor.
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Post by RED Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:07 pm

Rooney sent off.

Mata back as a no.10 cheers

Defensively we're still a bit shakey, but we showed mental strength at the end to get the points. Players need to learn to not panic and hoof the ball though.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:10 pm

Sam Allardyce angry with linesman for offside goal. "He's dropped a massive bollock."
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:12 pm

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport 38m
"Pick the ball up, go home, tell your mum i'm not playing any more." - Jason Roberts on Graziano Pelle's stunner for Saints
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:15 pm

It was a truly ridiculous goal, I scored a goal like it on PES 5 on the PS2 lol.

I never replicated on a game so I doubt Pelle ever will lol.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:29 pm

Wenger playing his ridiculous 4-1-4-1 again Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Working great so far though lol.
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Post by RED Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:32 pm

Spurs have got themselves in good positions in Arsenal's half, but are let down by awful decion making and shots.

The game is open.

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Post by Carrickature Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:40 pm

I thought Liverpool deserved the win today. Well then again, deserved may be the wrong word?

They had the chances and possession to warrant the win but they're far from the team they were last season and aren't taking those chances. 1 point from 9 against teams they would have swept aside last season is a concern.

Everton are also struggling and it can't just be the loss of Barkley that's causing it? However, that late goal will be a boost and I expect both Everton and Liverpool to click in to gear at some point because you can't go from being so good last year to being as bad as they've been in their last few games.

Can you?
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Post by RED Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:45 pm

Poor from Flamini.

Spurs score. 0-1
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Post by M99 Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:06 pm

Welbeck Laughing That assist Laughing
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Post by Glory Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:07 pm

tottenham are so so shite. :facepalm: they could have really KOed arsenal here and instead allowed them to get back into it by playing negatively. Wont be surprised if they lose it now from here. pochettino is way overrated it seems like.

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Post by M99 Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:08 pm

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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:10 pm

Imagine taking Baines and Shaw to the WC ahead of Gibbs Laughing

Absolutely beast of a LB. Best in the PL and top 5 in Europe.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:22 pm

RealGunner wrote:Imagine taking Baines and Shaw to the WC ahead of Gibbs Laughing

Absolutely beast of a LB. Best in the PL and top 5 in Europe.


I think you might find a clue as to which intelligence informs these decisions in this article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2769112/Footballers-brainiest-people-I-know-Roy-Hodgson-s-quiz-nights-helping-England-squad-prepare-matches.html
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:27 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Imagine taking Baines and Shaw to the WC ahead of Gibbs Laughing

Absolutely beast of a LB. Best in the PL and top 5 in Europe.


I think you might find a clue as to which intelligence informs these decisions in this article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2769112/Footballers-brainiest-people-I-know-Roy-Hodgson-s-quiz-nights-helping-England-squad-prepare-matches.html


lmao wtf
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:30 pm

Can't believe we didn't smash them. Absolutely gutted. We dominated them 90% of the match. Only ourselves to blame :facepalm:

Bit funny how Spurs are regressing with each year though. They were not even playing a derby game but a game against a top team and acting like a relegation team.

parked the bus from the 1st min till the last Laughing

2 points dropped
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:39 am

Unbelievable that Poch kept Ade in for all 90 minutes. He was absolutely invisible. Kane has shown promise when played and Soldado scored just last match.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:06 am

Fußball wrote:Caused a penalty as well I from what I'm reading (not watching this myself, watching Mehdrid). Dani wanted him badly for Barca. Now I'm not saying this is Mangala's standard but he's clearly got some flaws to iron out if this is how he clears a simple cross. Laughing Should never cost € 40M+.

I didnt hear this talk when he dominated Costa last week.

Like he is the only good defender to ever score an own goal trying not to let a ball get into a dangerous position.

You didnt even watch the game and still criticising him Laughing

Flaws? I am yet to find a 23 year old centerback which doesnt have some.
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Post by Red Alert Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:46 am

We are so bad defensively and so toothless in front of goal.

Majority of our goals have all been from set pieces, bought so many scrubs and as usual everyone hyped them up to no end........ :facepalm:

Ridiculous. If we stop this changing formations/trying to adapt to players we bought rather than let them adapt to us we won't make top 4 this season. And we need to go back to playing a CONSISTENT style, you would of thought Rodgers would of learnt this last season.......... Rolling Eyes
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Post by Kick Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:09 am

boyzis wrote:talk should be about how chelsea might drop points now as their period of form has run out IMO


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Post by futbol Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:29 am

The Franchise wrote:
Fußball wrote:Caused a penalty as well I from what I'm reading (not watching this myself, watching Mehdrid). Dani wanted him badly for Barca. Now I'm not saying this is Mangala's standard but he's clearly got some flaws to iron out if this is how he clears a simple cross. Laughing Should never cost € 40M+.

I didnt hear this talk when he dominated Costa last week.


Because I know Costa very well. He has been dominated by Pique and Mascherano every single time they've faced each other. Has scored 0 goals against Barca in about 10 games if I'm not mistaken. Costa is such an archaic centerforward - not particularly pacey, not trickery, just running the channels all night long and bulldozing his way towards goal - all you need is physicality to handle him properly. Which Mangala has. The fact that Chelsea parked a mean bus against City also played its part.

Anyway, he might do well in the long run. But from what I'm seeing he had a total shocker against a below average team and although 23 is young he has a lot of first division football and even CL experience so for me that's not an excuse.

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Post by El Gunner Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:01 am

Really worried about the lack of goalscoring chances we're creating atm, and our recurring defensive problems. We are worse off then how we were at any point last season.

On the other games.
I think Liverpool and Everton have both regressed just like us and Spurs. Was a really dull game and teams don't look like they know quite what they're doing.
Only Chelsea look they're set atm and quite honestly the results and table shows that. City also playing like they usually do, and thus still they look short and/or vulnerable on defence.
United have a plan which they're working towards, but obviously they're still short.

Saw Austin's goal y'day and was like "Woah Shocked " then I saw Pelle's goal and I was like " Laughing that shits on Austin's."
Tbh that goal was Henry-esque.
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Post by Gil Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:58 pm

How did Mangala dominate Costa? Tired of the media storylines football fans keep perpetuating. Costa had a free header he should have scored from and a left footed shot that hit the post. If either of those two chances had gone in would Mangala still have dominated him?

Did Terry and Cahill dominate Aguero since he was invisible for 90 minutes?
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Post by Onions Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:55 pm

RealGunner wrote:Can't believe we didn't smash them. Absolutely gutted. We dominated them 90% of the match. Only ourselves to blame :facepalm:

Bit funny how Spurs are regressing with each year though. They were not even playing a derby game but a game against a top team and acting like a relegation team.

parked the bus from the 1st min till the last Laughing

2 points dropped


If thats the case could you say that it's similar to how Arsenal had played against us last year at WHL? Because the stats seem to definitely suggest so. I'll give a comparison between the two games:

Red = Arsenal, Blue = Tottenham
NLD 2013/14:

NLD 2014/15:

Yet did we deserve to win because we managed to defeat you in every statistical number except the scoreline?

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