La Selección Argentina V.2

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Post by neuro11 Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:31 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:ok, but how were feelings then? Was it split public opinion? Was there debate, is there regret?
Because to me, the difference in how good you played then and how bad (as a team) you played since (when I saw you) is painfully obvious..
So there must have been thoughts of rehiring him or something?

Good question, why Argentina did not hire him back. He took job of Colombia in 2012. So right after the disaster of Maradona in 2010 it was still possible to hire him.
However i do not think Sabella is doing any worse. The advantage of pekerman in 2006 was he had an encredibly good number of players as well. Look at our 23 men squad back then. Even a star Messi spent entire time on bench.
This time its completely oppositie. So i doubt even with Pekerman there would be huge difference this time around. Ofcourse if you are talking of him being coach for long time, thats different. May be he would be able to bring out new talent, as BC mentioned his contribution for the youth set up.

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Post by junkyard Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:46 am

If Argentina fail to win it this time which is very much likely, do you think Sabella should be replaced? What about Tata/ Sampaoli coaching Albiceleste? In my opinion, both are better than Sabella.

And, this is my first post in GoalLegacy.
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Post by iftikhar Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:14 am

@junkyard wrote:If Argentina fail to win it this time which is very much likely, do you think Sabella should be replaced? What about Tata/ Sampaoli coaching Albiceleste? In my opinion, both are better than Sabella.

And, this is my first post in GoalLegacy.
Welcome to GL.

I think given the present squad, it's unfair to judge Sabella.
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Post by junkyard Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:37 pm

@iftikhar wrote:
@junkyard wrote:If Argentina fail to win it this time which is very much likely, do you think Sabella should be replaced? What about Tata/ Sampaoli coaching Albiceleste? In my opinion, both are better than Sabella.

And, this is my first post in GoalLegacy.
Welcome to GL.

I think given the present squad, it's unfair to judge Sabella.


I was thinking beyond this world cup. Sabella didnt help himself by not calling Caballero, Fazio, Musacchio, Pastore. Argentina are lucky to have been drawn into the easiest group and have a relatively free passage to semi. So, even with this squad I think not reaching semi should be termed as a huge failure.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:39 pm

Welcome Junkyard.

If Sabella fails then I think he might quit himself. If not then he either will be given a chance to manage Argentina for Coppa America next year or forced to resign.

Maybe Tata can manage Argentina next hmm
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Post by messixaviesta Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:36 pm

@neuro11 wrote:
@messixaviesta wrote:Thanks neuro. Who made that great pass from midfield? Was that Gago? Di Maria may not be the best finisher but his finding form at the right time is good news for us.



No, i think it was Mashcherano....

Oh I see.

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Post by messixaviesta Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:38 pm

@junkyard wrote:I think not reaching semi should be termed as a huge failure.


Without the slightest shred of doubt


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Post by sree999 Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:52 pm

Why is Argentina not producing world class midfielders . Why isnt any mordics or vidals coming from Argentina.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:16 pm

Sabella is considering playing Maxi instead of Lavezzi.

Just... why?! :facepalm:
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:48 pm

Because Maxi is a closer friend of Messi hmm
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Post by shinigami99 Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:06 am

part of me wants argentina not to win the WC so that Sabella can go and we can get someone who won't (hopefully) pick favourites: Tata, Sampaoli, Simeone(eventually). Maxi has 0 business in our NT squad, far less the starting 11
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Post by neuro11 Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:46 am

Tata is no way an upgrade to Sabella.....atleast that is what i believe from watching him at Barca.....No idea about Sampaoli.....But i really believe we need a coach like Simeone IF we want to win WC even though we might not be that entertaining under him. The guy is a tactical genius and knows how to bring the best out of his players...... we win this time or not i really wish we go for him for the next worldcup....

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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:38 am

Because Maxi would make the team defensively more solid on the right I guess, since Di Maria has the left side, Gago needed to take care of the right if 4-3-3. And still not sure if Lavezzi is the coach's favourite, seems unlikely.
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:55 am

@Donuts wrote:
@BarcaLearning wrote:What was that slow mo of Lavezzi spraying water into Sabella's face when Sabella was barking him instructions? If on purpose it was very dsrespectfulto the manager!

that is his type of humor, according to my commentators, there was also a video of him pranking a sleeping staff member by slapping him awake.
he's a little crazy to do that to his manager.

Loool he is indeed. Sabella comes across as softer type, Im sure a lot of other managers wouldnt tolerate that Very Happy
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Post by junkyard Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:15 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Sabella is considering playing Maxi instead of Lavezzi.

Just... why?! :facepalm:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Sabella is considering playing Maxi instead of Lavezzi.

Just... why?! :facepalm:
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Post by Harmonica Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:37 pm

No Argentinian has ever recorded more chances created in World Cup match than Messi, 8 against Switzerland. And it ended in a winner at 119 min. #relentless
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Post by farfan Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:38 pm

the only thing relentless is your fanboyism harmonica.
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Post by shinigami99 Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:51 pm



Proud Proud Proud
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Post by danyjr Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:55 pm

:facepalm:

With the midfield Sabella has taken to Brazil we won't win anything. I'll be surprised if we get passed Belgium (if they make it).

Can't believe idiota didn't take Banega to World Cup.
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Post by guest_07 Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:02 pm

there is 90% chance that riquelme will lighten the burden of messi if sabella pick him for this wc instead of impotent midfields they have right now

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:46 pm

I don't think the midfield is all that worrying. Just replace Gago with Enzo. I'm sure Enzo will at least not spectate the match.

The defense on the other hand... if we make these kinds of errors against Switzerland imagine Hazard or Robben against Fernandez... and we won't even have GOAT Rojo at LB any more...
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:56 pm

@shinigami99 wrote:

Proud Proud Proud


This one is better

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:21 am

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jul/01/argentina-lionel-messi-alejandro-sabella-switzerland-world-cup

Agree with every word
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:25 am

Text Sebella this team


--------------------Romero-------------------------
--------Zabaleta-----Fernandez------Garay------------
----------------Gago------Biglia------------------------
Lavezzi---------------Enzo-----------------------Di maria
--------------Messi----------------------------------
--------------------------Aguero-------------------

Works for me everytime
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:28 am

Aguero is injured brah
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Post by neuro11 Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:44 am

@RealGunner wrote:Text Sebella this team


--------------------Romero-------------------------
--------Zabaleta-----Fernandez------Garay------------
----------------Gago------Biglia------------------------
Lavezzi---------------Enzo-----------------------Di maria
--------------Messi----------------------------------
--------------------------Aguero-------------------

Works for me everytime


No it does not......in any way
firstly, you omitted the workhorse Mashcherano. He is irreplaceable from this squad. Secondly you put Enzho and Biglia in the mid, two new players none of whom have game time even not much in friendly. It will collapse as soon as the game goes in high intensity mode. they will just lack in experience. Thirdly, you have put Aguero who is injured and even if not is far from his WC qualifier performance.

I would not take so much risk at this moment. would simply replace Rojo with Basanta and take off Higuain for Palacio.....

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