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Post by BeautifulGame Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:15 pm

When he bit Ivanovic atleast it looked like he was creating controversy to force through a move.But to do that a world cup playing for ur NT :facepalm:

He clearly has some mental issues

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Post by lenear1030 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:16 pm

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Bruh.....



I fell out of the chair laughing at that
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Post by juventus101 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:16 pm

What a screwjob. We were screwed as soon as Marchisio got that BS red, and then to make matters even worse Suarez gets away with a clear red card offence by biting Chiellini. I wish Suarez bit Balotelli instead cuz Balotelli wouldve knocked him out. Never had a problem with Uruguay before but now I really see them as the POS' s that they are, Suarez in particular. He should be banned from football. Really just a disgraceful human being.
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Post by Zealous Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:16 pm

damn I just want some funny Suarez biting gifs now

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Post by Ganso Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:17 pm

mowgli wrote:Song got a 3 match ban for his red card...Suarez is probably going to face a tougher punishment.
yeah, looks like the WC is over for him
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Post by 6unner Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:18 pm

lenear1030 wrote:
El Cujo wrote:World Cup: Group D discussion - Page 23 10268523_10152414279112211_8888295824375971513_n



Bruh.....



I fell out of the chair laughing at that


That can not be Suarez it is a female above him. He only bites guys.

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Post by BeautifulGame Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:20 pm

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Dat reaction rofl 
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Post by 6unner Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:21 pm

Am hearing he might have left a tooth.

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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:22 pm

Italy didn't lose due to the ref, a better team would have been winning before MArchisio was unfairly sent off. A better team would have won against CRC.

So, why was Italy not this "better" team. While not being outplayed in both matches, Italy simple had no ideas how to build an attack beyond giving the ball to Pirlo and hoping he does a ridiculous pass. With Prandelli not fixing one formation, you had players not knowing how and what to play, and Italy simply did not have the stamina to play well beyond 70 minutes.

Several players would have made this group a better team. Rossi for one is much more suited to this actual group than all of the current forwards. His snub is similar to that of Cassano by Lippi in 2010. SES would bring more idea to the table, as even after coming from his long injury, he still added to Milan's woeful attack. Finally, Criscito would have saved us from relying on terrible Abate in the second game while waiting for MDS to come back from injury.

With this group of players, Prandelli refused to lock on to a system, and had some seriously strange subs to add. Against CRC, subbing in both Insigne and Cerci takes the cake. Yet, the parolo sub is perhaps the most surprising. Also, setting up the team to over rely on Pirlo set them up for disaster. Once Pirlo gets tired or hassled of the ball, the whole team turns off.

On the players themselves, I seriously cannot fault them for lack of effort. They are simply not good enough. This defense is the worst Italy defense since forever, and Chillini being their "best" defender despite being an accident waiting to happen says it all.

The midfield operates on a different wave-length to the rest of the team. A team that moves at a snail's pace. The forward line is the worst. All forwards have a staggering number of 7 shots on target all three matches. IMO, Balo is not going to develop his game further, and Italy might find better options going into WC 2018. Immobile might be even worse.

All and all, this actually is a dark time for Italian football. Because, there don't seem to be any talent in the line at all. With Serie A on the decline, and their National Team simply not cutting it. Carlo's prediction that Italy would only compete seriously in 2030 might not be far off.
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Post by BeautifulGame Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:22 pm

Apparently there are no retrospective punishments in the WC  Is it true?

Has anyone actually been banned in wc after referee missed it in the past?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:23 pm

Ivanovic was the 2nd time he did it as well.... he bit someone in Holland before he joined Liverpool.

3rd time he's done this and he still feels its ok thing to do apparently.
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Post by McAgger Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:24 pm

you're late to the party Moal
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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:25 pm

Art Morte wrote:Suarez, jesus christ, man :facepalm:

Marchisio's red was deserved, a clear stamp.

Costa Rica topped this group :bow:


How can you stomp one while dribbling at the same time?

Seriously, Marchisio was playing for the ball, and had no reason or even time to decide and stomp someone else. He has no history of violence, and this is his first red card ever. It was a mistake, and a mistake not done through dangerous play.

Sorry, but it is anything but a red.
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:26 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:Italy didn't lose due to the ref, a better team would have been winning before MArchisio was unfairly sent off. A better team would have won against CRC.

So, why was Italy not this "better" team. While not being outplayed in both matches, Italy simple had no ideas how to build an attack beyond giving the ball to Pirlo and hoping he does a ridiculous pass. With Prandelli not fixing one formation, you had players not knowing how and what to play, and Italy simply did not have the stamina to play well beyond 70 minutes.

Several players would have made this group a better team. Rossi for one is much more suited to this actual group than all of the current forwards. His snub is similar to that of Cassano by Lippi in 2010. SES would bring more idea to the table, as even after coming from his long injury, he still added to Milan's woeful attack. Finally, Criscito would have saved us from relying on terrible Abate in the second game while waiting for MDS to come back from injury.

With this group of players, Prandelli refused to lock on to a system, and had some seriously strange subs to add. Against CRC, subbing in both Insigne and Cerci takes the cake. Yet, the parolo sub is perhaps the most surprising. Also, setting up the team to over rely on Pirlo set them up for disaster. Once Pirlo gets tired or hassled of the ball, the whole team turns off.

On the players themselves, I seriously cannot fault them for lack of effort. They are simply not good enough. This defense is the worst Italy defense since forever, and Chillini being their "best" defender despite being an accident waiting to happen says it all.

The midfield operates on a different wave-length to the rest of the team. A team that moves at a snail's pace. The forward line is the worst. All forwards have a staggering number of 7 shots on target all three matches. IMO, Balo is not going to develop his game further, and Italy might find better options going into WC 2018. Immobile might be even worse.

All and all, this actually is a dark time for Italian football. Because, there don't seem to be any talent in the line at all. With Serie A on the decline, and their National Team simply not cutting it. Carlo's prediction that Italy would only compete seriously in 2030 might not be far off.


i totally agree on this..

italy has lot to blame themselves because italy werent clinical enough...costa rica game showed that, and italy needed solutions.


i dont think prandelli is going to get sacked but italy needs changes upfront..

and am i the only person who thinks candreva sucks..?? seriously he was so bad... not this game but against costa rica and also against england.. apart from that assist

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Post by Ganso Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:26 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:Apparently there are no retrospective punishments in the WC  Is it true?

Has anyone actually been banned in wc after referee missed it in the past?
Song got a 3 match ban, but the ref gave him a red.This time the ref didnt see the infraction, so who knows, but FIFA will probably punish him.No way he plays another game at the WC.
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Post by izzy Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:27 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:How can you stomp one while dribbling at the same time?

Seriously, Marchisio was playing for the ball, and had no reason or even time to decide and stomp someone else. He has no history of violence, and this is his first red card ever. It was a mistake, and a mistake not done through dangerous play.

Sorry, but it is anything but a red.


I thought it was a red.
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Post by 6unner Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:28 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:Italy didn't lose due to the ref, a better team would have been winning before MArchisio was unfairly sent off. A better team would have won against CRC.

So, why was Italy not this "better" team. While not being outplayed in both matches, Italy simple had no ideas how to build an attack beyond giving the ball to Pirlo and hoping he does a ridiculous pass. With Prandelli not fixing one formation, you had players not knowing how and what to play, and Italy simply did not have the stamina to play well beyond 70 minutes.

Several players would have made this group a better team. Rossi for one is much more suited to this actual group than all of the current forwards. His snub is similar to that of Cassano by Lippi in 2010. SES would bring more idea to the table, as even after coming from his long injury, he still added to Milan's woeful attack. Finally, Criscito would have saved us from relying on terrible Abate in the second game while waiting for MDS to come back from injury.

With this group of players, Prandelli refused to lock on to a system, and had some seriously strange subs to add. Against CRC, subbing in both Insigne and Cerci takes the cake. Yet, the parolo sub is perhaps the most surprising. Also, setting up the team to over rely on Pirlo set them up for disaster. Once Pirlo gets tired or hassled of the ball, the whole team turns off.

On the players themselves, I seriously cannot fault them for lack of effort. They are simply not good enough. This defense is the worst Italy defense since forever, and Chillini being their "best" defender despite being an accident waiting to happen says it all.

The midfield operates on a different wave-length to the rest of the team. A team that moves at a snail's pace. The forward line is the worst. All forwards have a staggering number of 7 shots on target all three matches. IMO, Balo is not going to develop his game further, and Italy might find better options going into WC 2018. Immobile might be even worse.

All and all, this actually is a dark time for Italian football. Because, there don't seem to be any talent in the line at all. With Serie A on the decline, and their National Team simply not cutting it. Carlo's prediction that Italy would only compete seriously in 2030 might not be far off.


Before England?

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:28 pm

On an unrelated note, Prandelli has been a disaster. People just kept telling me 'it's only friendlies, they mean nothing' but it was clear to see

He's used 10 different formations in the past year, went 9 months without a win and has no clue how to set up attacks.

Step 1. Pass to Pirlo

Step 2. Wait for Pirlo

Step 3. Hope Pirlo runs onto the end of his own 45 yard through ball and sticks it in.
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Post by Juveman17 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:28 pm

Marchisio's foul was a yellow, not a straight red. Im sorry but thats some bullshit.
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Post by Juveman17 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:29 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:On an unrelated note, Prandelli has been a disaster. People just kept telling me 'it's only friendlies, they mean nothing' but it was clear to see

He's used 10 different formations in the past year, went 9 months without a win and has no clue how to set up attacks.

Step 1. Pass to Pirlo

Step 2. Wait for Pirlo

Step 3. Hope Pirlo runs onto the end of his own 45 yard through ball and sticks it in.


Sorry Tom but i dont call getting to the Euro Finals and Confed Cup semi's a disaster.
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Post by Juveman17 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:30 pm

Chiellini going berserk : "Referee was a disgrace. Un vergogna. He decided game.Never a red for Marchisio & everyone saw what Suarez did"
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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:33 pm

izzy wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:How can you stomp one while dribbling at the same time?

Seriously, Marchisio was playing for the ball, and had no reason or even time to decide and stomp someone else. He has no history of violence, and this is his first red card ever. It was a mistake, and a mistake not done through dangerous play.

Sorry, but it is anything but a red.


I thought it was a red.


Please explain how it is a red then!

Marchisio stomped the player while he had his back to the player. He was in motion, and couldn't see if his leg was in his movement path.

In fact, the only reason it was, is because the player fell down in the first place. The stomp was during play, while Marchisio had no reason to stomp into the player to gain any advantage. He was chasing after the ball, and he stomped him while doing a roullete.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:33 pm

Aaah yeah, the Euro finals where he found a working formation against Spain and changed it in and the team fell apart. Confed cup? Not a soul cares about that. And there's hardly any teams in it anyway. 'Semi finals' sounds nice, doesn't it? There's only two groups rofl If you get out of the group you're a semi finalist.

World Cups are where you are judged, he failed to build a team and was still experimenting with formations during the group stages. Italy had no clue how to form an attack and no clue on what their roles were. Marchisio alone must've played 5 different positions.


He has no idea what he's doing.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:34 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ivanovic was the 2nd time he did it as well.... he bit someone in Holland before he joined Liverpool.

3rd time he's done this and he still feels its ok thing to do apparently.


He's mentally ill. Why is it so hard to understand? no one can deny that. Ian Wright is saying that now as well

Do you give stick to mentally ill people?

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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:34 pm

6unner wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:Italy didn't lose due to the ref, a better team would have been winning before MArchisio was unfairly sent off. A better team would have won against CRC.

So, why was Italy not this "better" team. While not being outplayed in both matches, Italy simple had no ideas how to build an attack beyond giving the ball to Pirlo and hoping he does a ridiculous pass. With Prandelli not fixing one formation, you had players not knowing how and what to play, and Italy simply did not have the stamina to play well beyond 70 minutes.

Several players would have made this group a better team. Rossi for one is much more suited to this actual group than all of the current forwards. His snub is similar to that of Cassano by Lippi in 2010. SES would bring more idea to the table, as even after coming from his long injury, he still added to Milan's woeful attack. Finally, Criscito would have saved us from relying on terrible Abate in the second game while waiting for MDS to come back from injury.

With this group of players, Prandelli refused to lock on to a system, and had some seriously strange subs to add. Against CRC, subbing in both Insigne and Cerci takes the cake. Yet, the parolo sub is perhaps the most surprising. Also, setting up the team to over rely on Pirlo set them up for disaster. Once Pirlo gets tired or hassled of the ball, the whole team turns off.

On the players themselves, I seriously cannot fault them for lack of effort. They are simply not good enough. This defense is the worst Italy defense since forever, and Chillini being their "best" defender despite being an accident waiting to happen says it all.

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All and all, this actually is a dark time for Italian football. Because, there don't seem to be any talent in the line at all. With Serie A on the decline, and their National Team simply not cutting it. Carlo's prediction that Italy would only compete seriously in 2030 might not be far off.


Before England?


Carlo made that prediction when asked if he is going to coach the NT after Prandelli.
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Post by Juveman17 Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:35 pm

Sad

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