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Post by Brady2Moss Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:10 am

Ganso wrote:im watching that highlight right now, ramires went cleanly on the ball.there was also a clear foul on JC.

there was only one big mistake which was the PK.get over it


Of course he did.

By the way, have you checked what the presses from the rest of world are saying? Laughing







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Post by lszanto Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:12 am

Media love hyping underdogs and conspiracies. Stop trying to make narrative out of nothing...
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Post by LeBéninois Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:14 am

This Croatia team should pass the group stage.

Great win by Brazil , First game are always tricky. However I wasn't impressed by Fred.
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Post by Gil Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:16 am

Paulinho, Alves and Hulk's places in the first team must be in danger.

Fernandinho, Maicon and Willian can't be far away from starting if they carry on like that.

EDIT: Are people really debating the 3rd goal? Unreal tackle by Ramires ffs. Not his fault Rakitic is unathletic and can't sense danger quickly enough.
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Post by windkick Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:54 am

Peccadillo wrote:I noticed that foul too.. but the game was a dead duck at that stage anyway so who cares.

A few decisions went against Croatia.


Because every goal matters. I'm sure Croatia care if they don't get out due to goal difference.

The Oscar goal was a result of a non call by Ramires and Fred flopped for the 2nd goal. props to Brazil for putting away those 2 chances, but I hate the fact the first game ended by two great sides and it seems to have been decided by the ref.
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Post by Casciavit Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:15 am

Wonder how all those soccer moms and dads feel about Oscar's goal yesterday.

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Post by zenmaster Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:31 am

Good start of the World Cup IMO.

Croatia were good till midfield as they have almost no strikers to rely on.  That self goal was too hilarious to be honest. Neymar and Oscar was MOM for me. Good show by Olic and Rakitik as well. That penalty was 50-50 and might not have been given , that which changed the game entirely. However Croatia did not threaten the Brazil defender which i was praying for , too bad.

Brazil will easily win their remaining matches i suppose.

The Brazil midfield is kinda weak there with Hulk and Fred pissing their pants in front doing almost nothing. I saw Marcelo and Luiz hitting the ball more then these two Brazil striker in the opponent third half.  I wonder what is Paulinho role here , neither i see him playing as DM nor picking the ball and pushing it at flanks. Total waste.  Also Brazil attack is more of a Oscar threatening with pace plus Neymar magic. If Naymer fails then Brazil will really have to struggle to win a game at Knock out stages. Too bad for Brazil and this thing everyone knows. From now on Naymer will be out of the game most of the time [ expecting , with 2-3 man marking him out of the game ] , the way people keep Messi out of the game in World Cups. Now its the other players , yes counting Fred and Hulk to take advantage of this and score goals for Brazil. But again i think Marcelo and Luiz will be more available then these two lazy strikers Laughing
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Post by Art Morte Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:16 am

Cameroon vs Mexico on today.

Haven't watched either of them play for years, they look weak on paper to me, interesting to see how their quality actually seems on the pitch tonight.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:23 am

Cameroon to win narrowly, they looked good defensively against Germany and Mexico don't convince me at all but they will still make it hard for Cameroon without a doubt.

There's also Netherlands vs Spain later.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:07 pm

Gil wrote:Paulinho, Alves and Hulk's places in the first team must be in danger.

Fernandinho, Maicon and Willian can't be far away from starting if they carry on like that.

EDIT: Are people really debating the 3rd goal? Unreal tackle by Ramires ffs. Not his fault Rakitic is unathletic and can't sense danger quickly enough.


Paulinho was fine, Hulk is mainly in the team for his defense and Scolari put him on the left to make Srna a non-factor and he won't be dropped.

Alves maybe but even so i doubt it, Maicon isn't any better from what i have seen since he left Inter, both are passed it IMO.

Hulk will go back to the right and do his usual Alves covering job, you're reaching if you think any changes at all will be made.
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Post by Brady2Moss Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:55 pm

Gil wrote:
EDIT: Are people really debating the 3rd goal? Unreal tackle by Ramires ffs. Not his fault Rakitic is unathletic and can't sense danger quickly enough.


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Clean tackle, if I ever saw one. Laughing 

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Post by Gil Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:04 pm

Brady2Moss wrote:
Gil wrote:
EDIT: Are people really debating the 3rd goal? Unreal tackle by Ramires ffs. Not his fault Rakitic is unathletic and can't sense danger quickly enough.


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Clean tackle, if I ever saw one. Laughing 


He clearly wins the ball first. Are you blind?
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Post by vivabarca38 Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:13 pm

Yeah he also shoved Rakitic with extreme force.
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Post by futbol Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:16 pm

lel Not this "if you touch the ball first everything else doesn't matter" Internet myth again. You can get sent off even without touching the opponent at all and winning the ball. See Kompany against Yanited in 11/12 or 12/13 (don't remember which season it was). If touching the ball first and hacking the player down afterwards was a legit way of defending my grandmom would look like prime Maldini. Laughing

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Post by rwo power Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:18 pm

vivabarca38 wrote:Yeah he also  shoved Rakitic with extreme force.
A little more force and it could even have given a handball :coffee:
The possibilities for the ref...
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Post by Brady2Moss Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:20 pm

Gil wrote:

He clearly wins the ball first. Are you blind?


So, I guess taking out Rakitic in the process, allowing Oscar a clear path on goal doesn't matter? huh?

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Post by Brady2Moss Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:23 pm

rwo power wrote:
vivabarca38 wrote:Yeah he also  shoved Rakitic with extreme force.
A little more force and it could even have given a handball :coffee:
The possibilities for the ref...


Rakitic should consider himself lucky he was not given a card for impeding Ramires.

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Post by Gil Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:31 pm

You know why defending has gone to shit if players should be getting penalized for actually winning the ball now. Who cares if he smashed him after? It was a 50-50 challenge ffs.
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Post by Ganso Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:47 pm

if you view it from the front, you will see that he clearly gets the ball.and extreme force, get out Laughing that foul wouldn't even be called in serie a/PL


there were 2 mistakes, the PK and Nerman not getting red carded.the rest is just plain butthurt
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Post by Onyx Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:00 pm

Mexico starting 11: Ochoa; Aguilar, Rodríguez, Márquez, Moreno, Layún; Vázquez, Herrera, Guardado; Dos Santos, Peralta.

Cameroon starting 11: Itandje, Assou-Ekotto, Nkoulou, Djeugoue, Song, Moukandjo, Eto'o, Choupo Moting, Chedjou, Mbia, Enoh.

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Post by Onyx Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:08 pm

RB should have had a shot there.

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Post by M99 Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:23 pm

*bleep* disgrace that chat is off.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:25 pm

mexico have such a shit defense rofl
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Post by M99 Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:31 pm

56th goal ruled off for offside so far Laughing
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Post by 1991 Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:33 pm

:facepalm:  2 legit Dos Santos goals disallowed for Mexico. Why the hell do FIFA insit on appointing these third world refs I'll never know.
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Post by Freeza Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:35 pm

Let Howard Webb ref every game ffs...
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