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Post by RealGunner Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:13 pm

This is something to do with the next episode. It's not a book spoiler or even related to any story n shit.

But if you don't want to get hyped for the next episode prematurely and want to watch it casually without any sort of outside interference then DON'T read this

Spoiler:

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:14 pm

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Post by El Gunner Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:16 pm

Okay my quick thoughts about the episode.
I for one thought it wasn't up to episode 9 standards.
It was good, but I would put the Battle of Blackwater ahead of this one.
Ygritte's death wasn't that emotional.
And what was that about Aemon telling Sam about his old love life Laughing seriously was that filler?
Proud for my man Jon who stood up and took leadership when needed. Thought that fight between him and The Then leader was BOSS. Better than Thorne's with Tormund.

What I got most excited about though was the end - Jon walking out of them doors to find Mance Proud
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:17 pm

LMAOO nonsense! "Swag is for boys, class is for men" complete nonsense! rofl Littlefinger has the most swag in all of Westeros(or whatever the whole country is called Laughing) and is STILL smarter and more tactical than your boy Stannis by A COUNTRY MILE. Stannis is nothing without Davos. As Tom said, Stannis is generic as hell. How many times has that "rightful heir" BS been spewed over and over again in books and movies over the years? There's really nothing special or outstanding about Stannis that should earn him such a cult following. But I'm not a book reader and I'm judging strictly based on the show.....and based on the show? He's BORING.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:17 pm

And what was that about Aemon telling Sam about his old love life seriously was that filler?

Nah they were building Aemon's character up because of his lack of screen time lately.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:23 pm

When I say generic I mean generic in an everyday sense. He's not a perfect hero or a twisted villain

He's sensible, he's rational he's completely down the middle. Ordinary is a better word.

That's not a bad thing but I don't see the hype for somebody who's pretty ordinary as a character.

The 'rightful heir' crap doesn't sit with me. There is no rightful heir because somewhere along the line somebody takes the throne by force, and then he dies and a relative of the man who had no right to take the throne in the first place thinks he has a special claim.

His claim is legit, but it's not rightful, no ones is imo

It's like me stealing £500,000 from a bank (Pls go NSA i'm making a point u pos)

And then my kid moaning when I die from a coke overdose and the authorities seize the money.

"But that was my dads money I am the rightful heir to the stolen moneh"
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:27 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:When I say generic I mean generic in an everyday sense. He's not a perfect hero or a twisted villain

He's sensible, he's rational he's completely down the middle. Ordinary is a better word.

That's not a bad thing but I don't see the hype for somebody who's pretty ordinary as a character.

The 'rightful heir' crap doesn't sit with me. There is no rightful heir because somewhere along the line somebody takes the throne by force, and then he dies and a relative of the man who had no right to take the throne in the first place thinks he has a special claim.

His claim is legit, but it's not rightful, no ones is imo

It's like me stealing £500,000 from a bank (Pls go NSA i'm making a point u pos)

And then my kid moaning when I die from a coke overdose and the authorities seize the money.

"But that was my dads money I am the rightful heir to the stolen moneh"

rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:29 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:When I say generic I mean generic in an everyday sense. He's not a perfect hero or a twisted villain

He's sensible, he's rational he's completely down the middle. Ordinary is a better word.

That's not a bad thing but I don't see the hype for somebody who's pretty ordinary as a character.

The 'rightful heir' crap doesn't sit with me. There is no rightful heir because somewhere along the line somebody takes the throne by force, and then he dies and a relative of the man who had no right to take the throne in the first place thinks he has a special claim.

His claim is legit, but it's not rightful, no ones is imo

It's like me stealing £500,000 from a bank (Pls go NSA i'm making a point u pos)

And then my kid moaning when I die from a coke overdose and the authorities seize the money.

"But that was my dads money I am the rightful heir to the stolen moneh"


lmfao Laughing
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Post by El Gunner Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:32 pm

Also don't get the Stannis love...
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Post by M99 Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:36 pm

Westeros rights of conquest laws are clear. The throne is under Barratheon control now. If someone conquers the realm again it will be theirs under the rights of conquest. And even disregarding that, Joffrey/Tommen are bastards who have literally no right. It is Stannis' duty to get rid of them and put the true Barratheons. Stannis is a morally grey character with multiple dimensions to his personality. He does not need "swag" being the badass he is.
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:40 pm

That's all nice and all but.....still doesn't make him badass. Didn't even have the balls to fight Renly ffs smh.
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:40 pm

@BB In my opinion, the key difference is that

A. In the show, they don't detail Stannis extensive accomplishments.

B. A combination of mediocre acting and the fact that the show is designed for you to identify with the Starks. Stannis went against Robb and Tyrion, two of the more loved guys on the show, which makes him the enemy.

Here are the key things you probably don't know about Stannis:

Spoiler:

This man is far and away the best canidate for king in the series. Period.
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Post by Dante Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:42 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:When I say generic I mean generic in an everyday sense. He's not a perfect hero or a twisted villain

He's sensible, he's rational he's completely down the middle. Ordinary is a better word.

That's not a bad thing but I don't see the hype for somebody who's pretty ordinary as a character.

The 'rightful heir' crap doesn't sit with me. There is no rightful heir because somewhere along the line somebody takes the throne by force, and then he dies and a relative of the man who had no right to take the throne in the first place thinks he has a special claim.

His claim is legit, but it's not rightful, no ones is imo

It's like me stealing £500,000 from a bank (Pls go NSA i'm making a point u pos)

And then my kid moaning when I die from a coke overdose and the authorities seize the money.

"But that was my dads money I am the rightful heir to the stolen moneh"


ffs Laughing
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Post by M99 Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:43 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:That's all nice and all but.....still doesn't make him badass. Didn't even have the balls to fight Renly ffs smh.


He challenged Renly to a one on one which Renly declined. He is smart and knows that it would be better to have one death than thousands. With one stroke he destroyed one half of his enemies and had half of Renly's army join him. That is intelligence. And you forgot Blackwater? That was top class badassery.
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Post by Dante Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:58 pm

Great post Le Sam. Yeah , Stannis is under rated in the show. But there is a reason.

Anyway , i can understand why it seems like that to people who have only been watching the show . But even from that , i would never presume him generic , boring or just ordinary . He's not that. He's a hard man , full of fury and justice and values . Someone who would well fix the wrongs others have made , but in cold blooded justice , without remote. Like he did with Davos , when he cut his fingers off because of his past. Despite saving him and who knows how many more , including his own wife.

Stannis did his part in following others , like every leader should be doing first of all . And when his moment came , leadership was stollen from him. From a man that is a natural leader , however despised. Now , i can't say if he's the very best , but one of the best kings Westeros could have , that he is for sure.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:38 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Not really interested in Branns story arc or the people he's with lol

I'm sure he has a big part to play but i'd rather not suffer through hours of meh dialogue between kids and Hodor.

u wot m8??
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Post by zigra Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:43 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
The 'rightful heir' crap doesn't sit with me. There is no rightful heir because somewhere along the line somebody takes the throne by force, and then he dies and a relative of the man who had no right to take the throne in the first place thinks he has a special claim.

His claim is legit, but it's not rightful, no ones is imo

It's like me stealing £500,000 from a bank (Pls go NSA i'm making a point u pos)

And then my kid moaning when I die from a coke overdose and the authorities seize the money.

"But that was my dads money I am the rightful heir to the stolen moneh"


So very true. Guys make themselves dictators by using military force and people root for their children to become the next dictators because they are their children.. wtf is wrong. Kill 'em all and build a democracy  :coffee: 
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:15 pm

STANNIS BARATHEON!!!! Even his name sounds badass ffs

Bend the knee or you shall be destroyed :coffee:
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