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Post by Adit Tue May 06, 2014 2:28 am

It is actually a miracle that with that defense Liverpool actually gave a serious title challenge. Liverpool had a remarkable season, who thought they would be challenging PL title ? .

They are on a rise, Rodgers are taking them in the right direction , Couple of defenders and one midfielder and they will be title challengers for years to come and will eventually win one in within next 4 years. They have found winning mentality and Liverpool this season should be an example to the likes of Arsenal.

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Post by Lex Tue May 06, 2014 5:02 am

Yes Arsenal, who are in a final and are favourites to win it, should take a page from the winning mentality book of Liverpool, who look likely to win a grand total of zilch, squat, nada...

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Post by CBarca Tue May 06, 2014 5:45 am

I would wait until you actually win it until you start bragging Laughing

YES, I realize you said "favorites to win it", but my point doesn't change.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue May 06, 2014 5:50 am

I still do not understand the EPL pundit/journalist need to advertise everything about the league. For instance tonight in the 3-3 to which is now being spoken as the best match, a testament to 'the best league in the world' yet it was not even a great match. Lazio-Verona to which ended 3-3 via 2 comebacks was not even praised and why? Because it was a game of atrocious defence, just like Liverpool taking our foot off the pedestal 2nd half via 3 goals up.

Just like the incessant need to say:"Most competitive league in the world" and then "League with the best relegation battle in the world" or "League with the most balanced lower-mid-table clubs in the world".

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Post by Arquitecto Tue May 06, 2014 5:52 am

Lex wrote:Yes Arsenal, who are in a final and are favourites to win it, should take a page from the winning mentality book of Liverpool, who look likely to win a grand total of zilch, squat, nada...

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With LFC its either go big or go home. Like any other club historically a heavyweight in Europe.

Yet its apparent with Arsenal every trophy is worth its weight in gold (pewter) and must be flaunted like a tavern wench spreading her legs to the fresh catch of the morning. Laughing

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Post by VendettaRed07 Tue May 06, 2014 5:56 am

Lex wrote:Yes Arsenal, who are in a final and are favourites to win it, should take a page from the winning mentality book of Liverpool, who look likely to win a grand total of zilch, squat, nada...

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Post by Abramovich Tue May 06, 2014 10:48 am

Liverpool can still win this, then the thread will be renamed to City biggest bottle job Laughing
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Post by Lex Tue May 06, 2014 11:42 am

Arquitescu wrote:Yet its apparent with Arsenal every trophy is worth its weight in gold (pewter) and must be flaunted like a tavern wench spreading her legs to the fresh catch of the morning. Laughing

Arq pls, when Liverpool won the Guiness cup, it was like Jesus himself had returned to Anfield
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Post by Lex Tue May 06, 2014 11:43 am

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Post by Abramovich Tue May 06, 2014 11:49 am

Guiness cup  rofl 
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Post by Swanhends Tue May 06, 2014 11:50 am

Arquitescu wrote:I still do not understand the EPL pundit/journalist need to advertise everything about the league. For instance tonight in the 3-3 to which is now being spoken as the best match, a testament to 'the best league in the world' yet it was not even a great match. Lazio-Verona to which ended 3-3 via 2 comebacks was not even praised and why? Because it was a game of atrocious defence, just like Liverpool taking our foot off the pedestal 2nd half via 3 goals up.

Or maybe, just MAYBE, it's because Lazio-Verona was a meaningless game between two mid-table teams with no real significance and nothing of value on the line..... whereas Liverpool-Palace basically decided a title race and saw the continuation of Liverpool's 24 year title drought? Rolling Eyes 
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Post by Le Samourai Tue May 06, 2014 12:04 pm

Swanhends wrote:
Arquitescu wrote:I still do not understand the EPL pundit/journalist need to advertise everything about the league. For instance tonight in the 3-3 to which is now being spoken as the best match, a testament to 'the best league in the world' yet it was not even a great match. Lazio-Verona to which ended 3-3 via 2 comebacks was not even praised and why? Because it was a game of atrocious defence, just like Liverpool taking our foot off the pedestal 2nd half via 3 goals up.

Or maybe, just MAYBE, it's because Lazio-Verona was a meaningless game between two mid-table teams with no real significance and nothing of value on the line..... whereas Liverpool-Palace basically decided a title race and saw the continuation of Liverpool's 24 year title drought?

Not really.

Title was still City's hands, they have to not drop points. Now they can afford to drop 2, it's not exactly a huge diffeence.

It was basically a defensive meltdown.

We and Valencia played a great game the other day, in basically the same position, with a last minute goal and all that jazz. No one losing their shit over it.

The people saying this is unique to the PL are complete and utter morons.
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Post by Red Alert Tue May 06, 2014 12:08 pm

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Post by Red Alert Tue May 06, 2014 12:11 pm

Lex wrote:I dunno, I'm waiting for Red Alert to tell me whether that was a bottle job or not

Well, Arsene would be proud of the performance we put into today. So yeah, I guess it was indeed a bottle job.
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Post by Swanhends Tue May 06, 2014 12:13 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
Swanhends wrote:
Arquitescu wrote:I still do not understand the EPL pundit/journalist need to advertise everything about the league. For instance tonight in the 3-3 to which is now being spoken as the best match, a testament to 'the best league in the world' yet it was not even a great match. Lazio-Verona to which ended 3-3 via 2 comebacks was not even praised and why? Because it was a game of atrocious defence, just like Liverpool taking our foot off the pedestal 2nd half via 3 goals up.

Or maybe, just MAYBE, it's because Lazio-Verona was a meaningless game between two mid-table teams with no real significance and nothing of value on the line..... whereas Liverpool-Palace basically decided a title race and saw the continuation of Liverpool's 24 year title drought?

Not really.

Title is in City's hands, they have to not drop points. Now they can afford to drop 2 instead of three, it's not exactly a huge diffeence.

It was basically a defensive meltdown.

We and Valencia played a great game the other day, in basically the same position, with a last minute goal and all that jazz. No one losing their shit over it.

The people saying this is unique to the PL are complete and utter morons.

...Who said this?

Didn't watch Madrid vs Valencia, heard it was a great game - Certainly, the last minute equalizer and title implications are there in both situations. But I definitely would not call a team that nearly everyone picked for relegation earlier this season coming back from 0-3 against the team top of the table "the same position" as Madrid and Valencia trading goals back and forth with Madrid tying it up late. Granted I understand that Valencia hasn't had a great season, but that seems a bit of a stretch to me. This is not to diminish the spectacle of that game, which as I said most respectable sources have praised the quality of, but they certainly aren't the same in my opinion
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue May 06, 2014 12:15 pm

Swanhends wrote:Or maybe, just MAYBE, it's because Lazio-Verona was a meaningless game between two mid-table teams with no real significance and nothing of value on the line..... whereas Liverpool-Palace basically decided a title race and saw the continuation of Liverpool's 24 year title drought? Rolling Eyes 
Hasn't really changed the landscape though, right? Liverpool went from being 2nd favorites to 2nd favorites... City were always the front runners because of GD.
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Post by Red Alert Tue May 06, 2014 12:19 pm

What's wrong with what Swanhends has said ffs?

Lazio-Verona were both going to finish mid-table.

Liverpool WERE/STILL ARE in a title race. Us being "second favourites" doesn't differ that.
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Post by Lex Tue May 06, 2014 1:21 pm

Red Alert wrote:
Lex wrote:I dunno, I'm waiting for Red Alert to tell me whether that was a bottle job or not

Well, Arsene would be proud of the performance we put into today. So yeah, I guess it was indeed a bottle job.
you just admitted Liverpool bottled it Laughing Very big of you to admit it was a fantastic bottle job. Kudos on the bottle job critique.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 06, 2014 1:29 pm

M99 wrote:Lmao at ignoring the games in hand. Mole pls Laughing

So did Man Utd when they came back against us in the 90s and so did Arsenal when they came back from something like an 11 point deficit against Man Yoo.

No one cares though and no one ever mentions it, why change for Liverpool lol?

Fact is games in hand or not there were 6 points clear with 35 games played and they choked it all away.
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Post by stevieg8 Tue May 06, 2014 1:34 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
M99 wrote:Lmao at ignoring the games in hand. Mole pls Laughing

So did Man Utd when they came back against us in the 90s and so did Arsenal when they came back from something like an 11 point deficit against Man Yoo.

No one cares though and no one ever mentions it, why change for Liverpool lol?

Fact is games in hand or not there were 6 points clear with 35 games played and they choked it all away.

6 points clear, dropped 5 points and now 2 points behind hmm such an impressive bottle job we reinvented math?
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Post by Curtinho Tue May 06, 2014 2:02 pm

A team with no expectations going into the season went on an 11 game winning streak to catch up to Manchester City, Chelsea and surpassing Arsenal on the way, lost to a team that has been dominant using their bus against top teams this year and then drew the following game in a situation where they pretty much need City to drop points anyway.

If anything Arsenal and Chelsea bottled worse, and if City hadn't won the title they'd have been an even bigger bottle job.
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Post by M99 Tue May 06, 2014 2:16 pm

So those games in hand are completely irrelevant? City had THREE games in hand, THREE. That's a potential nine points so yes, the games in hand are very relevant. This has been a choke job but not the biggest in PL history.
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Post by dostoevsky Tue May 06, 2014 2:21 pm

Am I the only poster who recognised that Mole made this as a response to RG claiming that Sunderland's relegation escape was the "biggest in premier league history?"

Though it does help that Mole hates Pool. hmm
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue May 06, 2014 5:10 pm

El Cujo wrote:A team with no expectations going into the season went on an 11 game winning streak to catch up to Manchester City, Chelsea and surpassing Arsenal on the way, lost to a team that has been dominant using their bus against top teams this year and then drew the following game in a situation where they pretty much need City to drop points anyway.

If anything Arsenal and Chelsea bottled worse, and if City hadn't won the title they'd have been an even bigger bottle job.
Just gonna act like we didn't outplay you at your own game at the Bridge huh? Laughing
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Post by BusterLfc Tue May 06, 2014 6:53 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:**** off is it Laughing

They wasn't even in the relegation zone till they got like 3 games in hand due to cup runs.

It's like saying if City win the league its the best comeback ever lmao.
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