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Post by Nishankly Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:10 pm

West Ham will have momentum coming into the LFC game now hmm

Our hopeless results have mostly been in London and Manchester.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:15 pm

Sunderland's next 4 fixtures.... Spurs, Everton, City and Chelsea.

They will do well to get out of this.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:15 pm

sam is a goat boss, say what u want

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Post by DeletedUser#1 Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:16 pm

Nishank wrote:West Ham will have momentum coming into the LFC game now hmm

Our hopeless results have mostly been in London and Manchester.

Arsenal were top before playing us (momentum)
Fulham were coming off an amazing performance and a point vs. Utd at OT before playing us (momentum)
Swansea were having new manager syndrome and just drew Napoli before playing us (momentum)
Southampton were safe and playing with zero pressure playing us (momentum)
Man Utd were coming off 2 games winning stream and 3 games without a goal conceded before playing us (momentum)
Cardiff were coming off 2 encouraging performances and unlucky losses vs Spurs and Everton before playing us (momentum)
Spurs were coming off a great come back victory after being 2-0 down before playing us (momentum)


In contrast, the team that actually gave us the hardest game was Sunderland, who was on a losing streak and with no momentum.

So yea, bring on momentum Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:17 pm

He's a GOAT boss for beating Sunderland and struggling to stay up all season lol?

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:18 pm

McAgger wrote:
Arquitescu wrote:I love Andy and will support him every step of the way. But I can't say I'm mourning his loss in Liverpool.

Same, he's a likable bloke. I was wishing against all odds that he would make it with us but at the end everyone made the right decision letting go.

andy carroll likable? didnt he have like a lot of off field issues?

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:20 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's a GOAT boss for beating Sunderland and struggling to stay up all season lol?


i was just thinking that he receives too much criticism for hoof the ball football when he does get the results

west ham fans were booing him the 1st time Chelsea played them, but now theyre almost top 10

of course not good enough to manage a bigger club

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Post by Art Morte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:23 pm

A good goal from Sunderland and Johnson.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:23 pm

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's a GOAT boss for beating Sunderland and struggling to stay up all season lol?


i was just thinking that he receives too much criticism for hoof the ball football when he does get the results

west ham fans were booing him the 1st time Chelsea played them, but now theyre almost top 10

of course not good enough to manage a bigger club

That's not GOAT though lol.... he does what he needs to do to get enough results to get mid table every year.

Which is the minimum he should be doing anyway.
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Post by BusterLfc Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:23 pm

I don't know why Armero doesn't start games ahead of McCartney.
He only played 8 minutes since joining the Hammers side not including this game.
He's sitting on the bench regularly, amongst the other signings from Serie A.
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:27 pm

..continuing the trend of Serie A players flopping in England.

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Post by BusterLfc Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:33 pm

Aside from Coutinho, you are right.

Expected much more from Giaccherini though.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:33 pm

BusterLfc wrote:I don't know why Armero doesn't start games ahead of McCartney.
He only played 8 minutes since joining the Hammers side not including this game.
He's sitting on the bench regularly, amongst the other signings from Serie A.

West Ham's Serie A signings in January seem baffling indeed. Armero, Borriello, Nocerino. And they're never getting any meaningful playing time. Especially Nocerino should be playing ahead of Nolan any day of the week and twice on game days. Pointless signings.
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Post by McAgger Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:38 pm

Borini is Sunerland's best player according to their fans, so you can't really say he's been a flop.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:38 pm

Art Morte wrote:
BusterLfc wrote:I don't know why Armero doesn't start games ahead of McCartney.
He only played 8 minutes since joining the Hammers side not including this game.
He's sitting on the bench regularly, amongst the other signings from Serie A.

West Ham's Serie A signings in January seem baffling indeed. Armero, Borriello, Nocerino. And they're never getting any meaningful playing time. Especially Nocerino should be playing ahead of Nolan any day of the week and twice on game days. Pointless signings.

What's up with the Nolan hate lol?

In any case i watched Nocerino consistently for years he's crap.... in no way is he better than Nolan.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:43 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's a GOAT boss for beating Sunderland and struggling to stay up all season lol?


i was just thinking that he receives too much criticism for hoof the ball football when he does get the results

west ham fans were booing him the 1st time Chelsea played them, but now theyre almost top 10

of course not good enough to manage a bigger club

That's not GOAT though lol.... he does what he needs to do to get enough results to get mid table every year.

Which is the minimum he should be doing anyway.

The way the bottom-half of the table has been so tight for all season long that every team there has been under relegation threat pretty much all the time, I think you have to give some credit to each and every manager who manage to pull their clubs to relative safety before the final weeks. Like, Allardyce, Lambert, Bruce. Mark Hughes of all people a notch above that lot since Stoke look set to finish in the top-half. Pulis well worth a mention, too.
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Post by BusterLfc Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:45 pm

I remember Armero few years ago carrying Udinese all season when he was playing as a winger.
The season when Udinese played CL quali
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Post by Art Morte Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:45 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Art Morte wrote:
BusterLfc wrote:I don't know why Armero doesn't start games ahead of McCartney.
He only played 8 minutes since joining the Hammers side not including this game.
He's sitting on the bench regularly, amongst the other signings from Serie A.

West Ham's Serie A signings in January seem baffling indeed. Armero, Borriello, Nocerino. And they're never getting any meaningful playing time. Especially Nocerino should be playing ahead of Nolan any day of the week and twice on game days. Pointless signings.

What's up with the Nolan hate lol?

In any case i watched Nocerino consistently for years he's crap.... in no way is he better than Nolan.

He's got no skills and no athleticism, either. All he brings to this West Ham team is his poaching abilities and fair enough for that, but I think West Ham would just play so much better if they had an AM with some actual AM skills.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:50 pm

Fair enough.... they don't have anyone like that though.

Which is probably how Sam likes it Laughing
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Post by BusterLfc Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:51 pm

Why was Ravel Morrison sent on loan anyway
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:53 pm

Borini has 3 goals in 24 games lol.

I guess that's just how it is for being a best player of a relegation-threatened team..
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Post by McAgger Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:54 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Borini has 3 goals in 24 games lol.

I guess that's just how it is for best players of relegation-threatened teams..

Well their fans love him, his work rate, and his desire. And also the fact that he's better than most of the other scrubs on their team. So yeah....
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Post by Art Morte Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:10 pm

Sunderland's home games: Everton, Cardiff, West Brom, Swansea.

Away games: Tottenham, Man City, Chelsea, Man United.

Maybe they can still survive if they get 10+ points from their home games, but those away games look horrible for a relegation-battling team.


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ExtremistEnigma wrote:Borini has 3 goals in 24 games lol.

I guess that's just how it is for best players of relegation-threatened teams..

Well their fans love him, his work rate, and his desire. And also the fact that he's better than most of the other scrubs on their team. So yeah....

He is better than most other forwards in their team, but that doesn't say much. Somehow today's game reminded me of how little Borini actually contributes skills wise. I don't mind it if he's our 3rd choice striker next season to come off the bench, but on the other hand I'm not too happy about the idea that he'd be our back-up if Suarez or Sturridge get injured.
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Post by McAgger Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:11 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Borini has 3 goals in 24 games lol.

I guess that's just how it is for being a best player of a relegation-threatened team..

Given that he's played on the wing for them for most of the season, I wouldn't say it's such a bad tally.
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Post by Onyx Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:13 pm

8 - Sunderland have taken only eight points from 15 games against teams currently in the bottom half of the PL.

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Post by Nishankly Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:13 pm

He has 6 goals for Sunderland, Most of them were match winning goals. They love him.
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