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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:43 am

He has been so good with them, what's the motivation behind selling him?

edit: im not sure he is on the move, but it's widely suggested that he is.
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Post by Swanhends Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:46 am

because gerrard is unbenchable...and its one or the other
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:51 am

It's all rumours...but if he is sold it'd be because.

There is a term in his contract that his wages would double up after a good first season, and maybe it won't make an economical sense considering his age, and the fact that he is coming off a great season, it may be the best summer to get good value from him.

He is more of a jack of all trades, but master of none...and he'll be a squad player if remains. He might want to be a regular considering it's the season before Euros.....All I know is that, his best position is AM. The fact that Spearing got the nod ahead of Raul in CM, IMO, suggests that Kenny doesn't see him as a CM...his best patch for us came at AM as well....but Suarez has that position now which is untouchable. He'd make a fantastic squad player being able to play multiple questions....I think the problem is the term in his contract, his age, ad the fact that he might want regular playing time before Euros. and also his value will start depreciating from now on.

Also don't forget the most important reasons. Our unability to sell Aquilani. I think the club were sure Juve would activate the clause....and it won't make sense selling AA for 6-7M as reported offers would suggest

all that said, I hope he stays because he is very cool Smile

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:56 am

How much money are we talking about?

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:57 am

Juve linked with him now...

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:01 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:How much money are we talking about?


Considering we bought him for pretty much 12M...I believe an offer close to 15M would be considered....all that said, I doubt any offer would be considered for Raul if Aquilani got a decent offered.

Ugh, stupid wages and deadwood to shift has caused all that problems...if we didn't have leaches like Poulsen, Cole, Konchesky, Jovanovic, etc eating our wage bill, this would have never happened.

Looks like Jovanovic and Konchesky are f**** off this week...let's hope Poulsen and Cole follow.

I can't really give detailed answer to footballing part of it, as believe me, I have no idea how Kenny plans to set us up. That's why we don't even have a formation thread in our section....It's all a mystery, hopefully I'll know more about shape of the team after friendly in a few hours, so I can discuss Raul's role in it a bit more.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:03 am

I meant his wages?

I thought Meireless was the kind of player every team would want to have. The guy has remarkable work rate, is a great passer and slot in many roles in the midfield. Doesnt need to be an expert at defending with his work rate...
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:07 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:I meant his wages?

I thought Meireless was the kind of player every team would want to have. The guy has remarkable work rate, is a great passer and slot in many roles in the midfield. Doesnt need to be an expert at defending with his work rate...

ooo........Rory Smith was reporting his wages would double up from 30k to 60k upon a good first season, based on a gentleman's agreement he had with Purslow and the previous Yanks. still absolutely peanuts, and I am sure Kenny would love to keep him cuz he always compliments it. The problem is Aquilani is on 80k, and we are unable to shift him and it has got to be one or the other or we'll be able to play 1-8-1.

All that said, I didn't see a single Juve game with Aquilani...but we played some mesmerizing stuff with him in the side when Rafa moved him from CM to AM. IMO, his best position is AM too, which is again, occupied by Suarez Very Happy. Also, his wife (so hot) is shooting a movie in Italy this year, so it'd be much more comfortable for her and AA to be settled in Italy and that's the concerning thing. You don't want a player whose mind is set elsewhere. We have a lot of players in our squad that would be Torres' dream (For a final pass)....very Ironic indeed.


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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:08 am

that is a shock to me. had no idea they were trying to sell him. raul is class.

definitely doesnt deserve to be a squad player if this is the case.

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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:10 am

Meireles interview yesterday from pre - season tour in China.We are selling him aren't we?

Meireles pledges to stay

Portuguese playmaker not looking for Anfield exit

Liverpool's Raul Meireles insists he will be playing for the club this season despite question marks over his future.

Manager Kenny Dalglish has brought in two midfielders in the shape of Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam, leading some to believe that Meireles could be offloaded.

Serie A giants Inter Milan are reportedly keen on ex-Porto man Meireles, however, he has no thoughts about quitting Anfield for pastures new this summer.

On the club's pre-season tour of China, when asked if he would still be a Liverpool player this coming season, he replied: "Of course."

Boost

Meireles has also been troubled by an ankle problem, but he says he is on the mend, adding: "I have a little problem with my ankle, but I've start training today. It's a little problem."


Meanwhile, the club's record signing Andy Carroll is looking to hit the ground running this term after arriving with an injury following his £35million capture from Newcastle.
"It was disappointing since I signed being injured. Getting myself back fit," said the England international.

"Now I'm getting myself fit I'm looking forward to the start of season, which should be successful."

We are selling him the same way United are selling Nani and Madrid are buying Tevez.
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:12 am

deezydeez wrote:that is a shock to me. had no idea they were trying to sell him. raul is class.

definitely doesnt deserve to be a squad player if this is the case.

Squad players get games though. especially considering Gerrard started only 20 games last season (and only 5 under Kenny).

Raul played most of the time under Kenny (After Suarez' arrival) as an inverted wide player drifting inside (on the left side), with off the ball movement creating space for Kuyt and Maxi. now, we are buying a specialist LW (probably Downing) who can cross a ball for AC and beat a man, so that leaves Raul outta the position. AM is occupied by Suarez, and Lucas and Gerrard are nailed on for central midfield. That's why I think he'd be more of a squad player, and considering we aren't in Europe (means 50 games in a season MAX)..then it makes the whole thing a bit more interesting

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Post by Red Alert Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:38 am

deezydeez wrote:that is a shock to me. had no idea they were trying to sell him. raul is class.

definitely doesnt deserve to be a squad player if this is the case.

Who says we want to sell him?

This is Reina to United all over again. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:50 am

its seems like its being suggested..

in the very least is looks like he might be relegated to the bench.

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Post by Red Alert Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:57 am

deezydeez wrote:its seems like its being suggested..

in the very least is looks like he might be relegated to the bench.

Based on what? We've only bought for depth at the moment in Adam and Henderson. Kenny like's to rotate his players. He did it in the 80's and he'll continue to do so. Cole and Poulsen are most definitely gone as soon as someone bids for them. Let's hope that's soon...

Anyway, this is how I see the midfield next season.

Gerrard/Meireles Adam/Aquilani
Spearing/Lucas

Henderson will only play CM if there's an injury. He'll mostly play RW. Shelvey will most likely go on loan unless someone buys Aquilani.
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:52 am

worst mistake by pool if they do sell him

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Post by Red Alert Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:15 am

Crimson wrote:worst mistake by pool if they do sell him

Wouldn't be that bad.
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Post by theaguia Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:35 am

well it is sort of like the makalele situation, they would be selling the engine
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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:20 am

theaguia wrote:well it is sort of like the makalele situation, they would be selling the engine

As good as he is that's a huge exaggeration.
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Post by teamanarchy Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:39 am

Screw Meireles, Sell injury-prone, way-past-his-2009-form Gerrard
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:44 am

teamanarchy wrote:Screw Meireles, Sell injury-prone, way-past-his-2009-form Gerrard

Sigged.

I'd laugh my c*ck off to this post during the course of the season

Totally reminds me of Scholes/Giggs situation of a few years ago, when both had relatively poor seasons (ironically plagued with injuries), and Mancs thought they are finished and wanted them sold.

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:48 am

Wow. Didn't know Meireles is that highly rated here Very Happy

He is a great player IMO, but I believe the fact that our all other signings last summer failed (Cole, Jova, Poulsen, Konchesky) has resulted Meirelels being rated much more highly than usual.

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Post by theaguia Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:18 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:
theaguia wrote:well it is sort of like the makalele situation, they would be selling the engine

As good as he is that's a huge exaggeration.

i didnt compare him to makalele, obviously that is stupid, i said makalele situation they are selling the engine for more flashy players
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:22 pm

theaguia wrote:
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theaguia wrote:well it is sort of like the makalele situation, they would be selling the engine

As good as he is that's a huge exaggeration.

i didnt compare him to makalele, obviously that is stupid, i said makalele situation they are selling the engine for more flashy players

Don't engines usually play deep though ? I think Portugal should try Raul in a more offensive position...to me, he looked his best highest forward in midfield of 4-3-3 beccause of his great technique and shooting ability.

Pretty much the position Lampard plays for Chelsea. the closest thing I could think of.

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Post by Red Alert Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:24 pm

teamanarchy wrote:Screw Meireles, Sell injury-prone, way-past-his-2009-form Gerrard

That has to be the stupidest post I've ever seen on these forums, and trust me, I've seen some really stupid posts.
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Post by theaguia Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:36 pm

Sepi wrote:
theaguia wrote:
BeautifulGame wrote:
theaguia wrote:well it is sort of like the makalele situation, they would be selling the engine

As good as he is that's a huge exaggeration.

i didnt compare him to makalele, obviously that is stupid, i said makalele situation they are selling the engine for more flashy players

Don't engines usually play deep though ? I think Portugal should try Raul in a more offensive position...to me, he looked his best highest forward in midfield of 4-3-3 beccause of his great technique and shooting ability.

Pretty much the position Lampard plays for Chelsea. the closest thing I could think of.
i dont think engines have a defined position, by engines i mean a unflashy player who makes it possible for others to show off.

for portugal he sits a bit deep with moutinho and they share defenisve responsibilities. I dont think he would be as good higher up as his main asset offensively is his perfectly timed runs from deep. his shooting ability is also more useful from far. for portugal he has had to reduce a bit of his attacking instincts as moutinho is playing alongside him and both are naturally attacking players so they need to hold back a little. so he is not been able to consistently do those deep runs, furthermore we have martins who is playing higher.

i think you are right when you say he is close to lampard in regards to those deep runs both make.
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