Xavi Complains

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Xavi's point is that playing style is directly related to an ability to leave a legacy. Simeone's style is basically the anti-thesis of everything Xavi believes in/personally likes. Hence I think this would be in direct opposition to what he is saying.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Xavi's point is that playing style is directly related to an ability to leave a legacy. Simeone's style is basically the anti-thesis of everything Xavi believes in/personally likes. Hence I think this would be in direct opposition to what he is saying.

futbol wrote:That's not what he says though. Xavi would be the first to congratulate Diego Simeone if he ever won La Liga. For starters, Simeone doesn't proclaim himself "special".

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Here's a question for those defending Xavi (myself included): IF Simeone's Atletico wins either the league or the CL, will he leave a legacy?

futbol wrote:Xavi: "Very balanced game, very intense, Atletico are a great team. They have a different style, but they execute it perfectly."

M99 wrote:Humility and respectfulness

futbol wrote:Xavi: "Very balanced game, very intense, Atletico are a great team. They have a different style, but they execute it perfectly."

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:People won't like hearing it but Xavi is right about Chelsea and Inter...

No one remembers them apart from their own fans....

Even when Inter won it, people still said Barca were the best team in the world and continued doing so until Bayern thrashed them.

This whole history remembers the winners is as much BS as no one remembers the style of football.... it just isn't true.

Even Chelsea, it was forgotten about 3 months later when they got knocked out of the group stages.... yet people still talked about Barca i wonder why that is?

But Xavi isn't right to have a go at specific managers and he is acting like a bitch but at the end of the day as far as Inter and Chelsea is concerned he's 100% correct.

harhar11 wrote:

Arquitescu wrote:I love Xavi, but I am growing tired and weary of this crock of shit that he continues to bring up as his frequent jibes are not justified by any tangible inference.

Where I come from, a brimstone pot of footballing culture; we all remember the Champions League wins of Mourinho's Inter and even Roberto Di Matteo's Chelsea.

-We remember how poor Inter were in the group stages followed by the unconcealed chortles on the thought of them usurping Barca after narrowly scraping through Ancelotti's Chelsea.

David vs Goliath

-We remember the absolute tactical masterclass that was the 1st leg vs Barca in the San Siro, thoroughly and comprehensively outwitting a prime Guardiola team 3-1 and bringing them to their knees.

David vs Goliath

-We remember a 10 man Inter in Camp Nou (result of a poor call) surviving in one of the most disciplined and organized phalanx's ever conjured after an onslaught of possession tiki-taka to which proved a miracle in the end as Mourinho and the Interisti players could not fathom that they survived such an aggressive incursion. It was a miracle.

David vs Goliath

-We remember one of the finest tactical displays in Champions League Final history when Mourinho thoroughly and utterly dismantled an arrogant LvG's Bayern to which was quite literally the perfect match from Inter, Milito's brilliant brace a mere compliment to the tactical finesse on display.


Chelsea?

-Who does not remember this 7th place Chelsea going down 10 men in Camp Nou, raising further convictions that a victory would be merely impossible within that moment? We remember Messi's failed penalty, Chelsea surviving all odds and Torres' shocking round-up goal vs Valdes to seal Barca's fate. It was polarities on expectations to the finest degree. 12 men conquered a 100k+ Cules

David vs Goliath

-Who does not remember Bayern's advantage of their team, form and playing the Champions League Final in their own home? Followed by Didier Drogba's flash in the pan header to power through the Bavarian momentum in the final minutes of the clock?

David vs Goliath

Who remembers when the mental odds stacked against Chelsea when the English were known to falter in penalties while the Germans known to succeed in them, let alone the record of English teams vs Germans? Who remembers Chelsea outclassing the Bavarians right in front of their raucous fans?  

I certainly do.

Football is not only remembered on the basis of aesthetics and dimensions of subjective play, yet based on the moments achieved against the grain, the inertia of odds and expectations that weigh down David as the philistines laugh at his audacity.

Xavi will never realize that until he experiences what the Chelsea and Inter unison faced nor will he understand what has brought the Blue and Nerrazzuri fans together; through the mutual emotions experienced in such an unforeseeable victory over such improbability.

He does not know it.

They do.

Hence why this is effectively a redundant debate.

It's not really a David and Goliath thing. Inter had won the Serie A for 4 years in row, no(?), and were almost always one of the favourites to win the CL, while Chelsea is almost always one of the top team that spend the most money in transfer, year after year. You can't really call that a David vs Goliath.

A David and Goliath is Porto, with Mou, winning the CL or Greece winning the Euro. Not two of the top teams in the world winning the CL..

The only way that Chelsea's CL win will be remembered is that it will be considered one of the flukiest CL win ever. Not even they know how they won. Every game they were outplayed. Every game the opposite created more than a dozen chances to score and yet failed to capitalize. Every game Chelsea created 1 chance and score 2.

Inter's will be remember more, because unlike Chelsea, they actually defended well. But even then, thanks to how bad they have done after the treble, it feels like alot of people have already forgotten that they won the treble. Heck, they will almost be more remembered for their spectacular fall from the top.

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And also, bro, if you are going to mention Inter going down to 10 men by a bad call, then maybe you should mention all of the bad calls? Like in the first leg Milito being called offside when he wasn't, later scoring a goal in a offside position and then Barca probably should have had a penalty and then in the 2nd leg, Barca should have had to penalties(one of them so clear that you only had to see Ibra's shirt to know that it was a penalty), Pique arguably scoring in an offside position and Bojan getting a goal wrongly disallowed.

Blue Barrett wrote:Its funny because we were "outplayed every game" but somehow managed to beat Napoli 4-1 at Stamford Bridge. How does that happen? Oh? I'm sorry? Did you mean only in the Barca tie and in the final? Gee, I almost thought you didn't mention it. Oh wait.....you didn't....  



Just another Barca fan trying to justify Xavi's cry baby attitude.

harhar11 wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Its funny because we were "outplayed every game" but somehow managed to beat Napoli 4-1 at Stamford Bridge. How does that happen? Oh? I'm sorry? Did you mean only in the Barca tie and in the final? Gee, I almost thought you didn't mention it. Oh wait.....you didn't....  



Just another Barca fan trying to justify Xavi's cry baby attitude.

Even in that game, didn't Napoli create a couple of chances?

And also, I don't remember Drogba being that immense. I do remember him really clinical and defending alot. But he didn't really dominate. Atleast not so much to call his performances "immense"..

Blue Barrett wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Its funny because we were "outplayed every game" but somehow managed to beat Napoli 4-1 at Stamford Bridge. How does that happen? Oh? I'm sorry? Did you mean only in the Barca tie and in the final? Gee, I almost thought you didn't mention it. Oh wait.....you didn't....  



Just another Barca fan trying to justify Xavi's cry baby attitude.

Even in that game, didn't Napoli create a couple of chances?

And also, I don't remember Drogba being that immense. I do remember him really clinical and defending alot. But he didn't really dominate. Atleast not so much to call his performances "immense"..

Bad enough a post for me to stop arguing with you. Good day.