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Post by cyberman Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:29 am

or is it routine? remember it says START...

To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:32 am

"is this an excellent stat

or is it routine, remember it says START"


is this an excellent stat? Wat10
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Post by The Franchise Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:38 am

Need something to compare it to, another team, to say if excellent or normal.
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Post by cyberman Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:40 am

jim not talking about juve bringing on a 24 yo squad player in the 78th min as counting towards the stat.
utd have depended on at least 1 home grown player for as long as anyone can remember to win a game for them.
is this normal for the other top teams in europe?
if i had another top tier refrence then i wouldnt need to ask this really lol.
Its a stat that looks impressive..im intrigued, thats all

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:18 am

Pretty sure Bilbao puts this stat to shame.
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Post by McAgger Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:25 am

Okay just so everyone knows, in PL a homegrown player is anyone who is British, doesn't necessarily have to be someone from your academy. So I'm pretty sure plenty of teams can say this.
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Post by cyberman Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:42 am

yes, id does mean acadamy..

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Post by Kick Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:57 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Pretty sure Bilbao puts this stat to shame.

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Post by McAgger Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:06 am

cyberman wrote:yes, id does mean acadamy..

A homegrown player in PL means anyone who is British. Wherever you got that stat from is not as impressive as you think.
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Post by Pip Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:17 pm

cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.

May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium

Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung -  PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas

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Post by McAgger Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:22 pm

Precisely Pippo, the meaning of homegrown players in PL is translated as anyone who grew learning the game in the UK. It's not players from the team's academies.

For example take Victor Moses for us this season. He counts towards our homegrown player list, even though he's Nigerian and on loan. Because he learned the game in England he counts.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:23 pm

Pippo wrote:
cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.

May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium

Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung -  PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas

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Post by Pip Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:07 pm

By the current home-grown player rules, Wayne Rooney would have counted as a homegrown player for Manchester United and not Everton, in spite of the fact that Rooney learned all of his football at Everton.

It's just a loophole for English clubs to poach the top European talents at a young age, register them but never play them except the early cup rounds (see: Fábio) just so at a later date they can be labeled as homegrown players.

Fábio should never count as a Manchester United academy product, but he can be labeled as a product because of the FA's rules, in spite of the fact that he never played in their academy.

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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:11 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Pippo wrote:
cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.

May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium

Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung -  PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas

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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:07 pm

Typical Man U fools XD
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Post by M99 Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:56 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Typical Man U fools XD

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:22 am

McAgger wrote:Precisely Pippo, the meaning of homegrown players in PL is translated as anyone who grew learning the game in the UK. It's not players from the team's academies.

For example take Victor Moses for us this season. He counts towards our homegrown player list, even though he's Nigerian and on loan. Because he learned the game in England he counts.
According to FA squad rules, Moses is indeed homegrown. But by UEFA rules, he only comes under association-trained not homegrown. He is a homegrown player (by UEFA rules) only for Crystal Palace. I believe the stat takes into account the UEFA homegrown rules - any player who trains at a club for 3 years between the ages 15 to 21 is considered homegrown for that club and association-trained for that nation. This is not just limited to English clubs.
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Post by Jonathan28 Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:14 am

RealGunner wrote:
Pippo wrote:
cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.

May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium

Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung -  PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas

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Post by M99 Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:04 am

Jonathan28 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
Pippo wrote:

May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium

Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung -  PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas

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Post by Lex Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:10 pm

Late contender for best thread of the year? hmm
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Post by neuro11 Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:41 pm

what an impressive thread for a non impressive stat Very Happy 

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Post by cyberman Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:11 am

Pippo wrote:By the current home-grown player rules, Wayne Rooney would have counted as a homegrown player for Manchester United and not Everton, in spite of the fact that Rooney learned all of his football at Everton.

It's just a loophole for English clubs to poach the top European talents at a young age, register them but never play them except the early cup rounds (see: Fábio) just so at a later date they can be labeled as homegrown players.

Fábio should never count as a Manchester United academy product, but he can be labeled as a product because of the FA's rules, in spite of the fact that he never played in their academy.

he couldnt play in our acadamy because he wasnt cleared, we got them at 16 or something.
whats the difference between 16 and barca getting iniesta at 14 or something?

poaching? the amount of nationalised players italy / brazil / spain / etc steal when theyre already established should knock you off that little high horse youre sitting on right now

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Post by cyberman Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:12 am

what part of not knowing if its an impressive stat do you lot not understand? i asked and got an answer, or are you stuck for good threads you try to jump on this?

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Post by Pip Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:55 am

cyberman wrote:he couldnt play in our acadamy because he wasnt cleared, we got them at 16 or something.
whats the difference between 16 and barca getting iniesta at 14 or something?

poaching? the amount of nationalised players italy / brazil / spain / etc steal when theyre already established should knock you off that little high horse youre sitting on right now
That's not true at all. Fábio officially joined Manchester United on July 1, 2008 -- 8 days before his 18th birthday. Fábio's first appearance as a player came in January 2009 -- more than 6 months after he signed for the club.

There is a huge difference between signing a player to join your academy when he is 12 (Iniesta) and signing a player to join your first-team when he is 17 (Fábio).

Yes, English teams routinely poach young players from abroad. God knows how many young Spanish footballers Arsenal and co. have poached due to the professional contract age signing difference.

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