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is this an excellent stat?
or is it routine? remember it says START...
To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.
To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.
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"is this an excellent stat
or is it routine, remember it says START"
or is it routine, remember it says START"
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Need something to compare it to, another team, to say if excellent or normal.
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jim not talking about juve bringing on a 24 yo squad player in the 78th min as counting towards the stat.
utd have depended on at least 1 home grown player for as long as anyone can remember to win a game for them.
is this normal for the other top teams in europe?
if i had another top tier refrence then i wouldnt need to ask this really lol.
Its a stat that looks impressive..im intrigued, thats all
utd have depended on at least 1 home grown player for as long as anyone can remember to win a game for them.
is this normal for the other top teams in europe?
if i had another top tier refrence then i wouldnt need to ask this really lol.
Its a stat that looks impressive..im intrigued, thats all
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Pretty sure Bilbao puts this stat to shame.
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Okay just so everyone knows, in PL a homegrown player is anyone who is British, doesn't necessarily have to be someone from your academy. So I'm pretty sure plenty of teams can say this.
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yes, id does mean acadamy..
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Pretty sure Bilbao puts this stat to shame.
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cyberman wrote:yes, id does mean acadamy..
A homegrown player in PL means anyone who is British. Wherever you got that stat from is not as impressive as you think.
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cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.
May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium
Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung - PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas
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Precisely Pippo, the meaning of homegrown players in PL is translated as anyone who grew learning the game in the UK. It's not players from the team's academies.
For example take Victor Moses for us this season. He counts towards our homegrown player list, even though he's Nigerian and on loan. Because he learned the game in England he counts.
For example take Victor Moses for us this season. He counts towards our homegrown player list, even though he's Nigerian and on loan. Because he learned the game in England he counts.
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Pippo wrote:cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.
May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium
Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung - PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas
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By the current home-grown player rules, Wayne Rooney would have counted as a homegrown player for Manchester United and not Everton, in spite of the fact that Rooney learned all of his football at Everton.
It's just a loophole for English clubs to poach the top European talents at a young age, register them but never play them except the early cup rounds (see: Fábio) just so at a later date they can be labeled as homegrown players.
Fábio should never count as a Manchester United academy product, but he can be labeled as a product because of the FA's rules, in spite of the fact that he never played in their academy.
It's just a loophole for English clubs to poach the top European talents at a young age, register them but never play them except the early cup rounds (see: Fábio) just so at a later date they can be labeled as homegrown players.
Fábio should never count as a Manchester United academy product, but he can be labeled as a product because of the FA's rules, in spite of the fact that he never played in their academy.
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cold world no blanketRealGunner wrote:Pippo wrote:cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.
May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium
Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung - PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas
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Typical Man U fools XD
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BarcaLearning wrote:Typical Man U fools XD
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According to FA squad rules, Moses is indeed homegrown. But by UEFA rules, he only comes under association-trained not homegrown. He is a homegrown player (by UEFA rules) only for Crystal Palace. I believe the stat takes into account the UEFA homegrown rules - any player who trains at a club for 3 years between the ages 15 to 21 is considered homegrown for that club and association-trained for that nation. This is not just limited to English clubs.McAgger wrote:Precisely Pippo, the meaning of homegrown players in PL is translated as anyone who grew learning the game in the UK. It's not players from the team's academies.
For example take Victor Moses for us this season. He counts towards our homegrown player list, even though he's Nigerian and on loan. Because he learned the game in England he counts.
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RealGunner wrote:Pippo wrote:cyberman wrote:To be precise, a homegrown player has now started in 3,668 consecutive United first-team games. That’s every game since October 1937.
May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium
Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung - PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas
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Jonathan28 wrote:RealGunner wrote:Pippo wrote:
May 1, 2011
Premier League | Round 35
Arsenal vs Manchester United | Emirates Stadium
Edwin Van der Sar - Fulham
Fábio - Fluminense
Nemanja Vidic (C) - Spartak Moskva
Rio Ferdinand - Leeds United
Patrice Evra - AS Monaco
Anderson - FC Porto
Michael Carrick - Tottenham Hotspur
Nani - Sporting Lisbon
Park Ji Sung - PSV Eindhoven
Wayne Rooney - Everton
Javier Hernández - Chivas
http://gamemoir.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/banderas-joel-lego.gif
I love this gif
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Late contender for best thread of the year?
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what an impressive thread for a non impressive stat
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Pippo wrote:By the current home-grown player rules, Wayne Rooney would have counted as a homegrown player for Manchester United and not Everton, in spite of the fact that Rooney learned all of his football at Everton.
It's just a loophole for English clubs to poach the top European talents at a young age, register them but never play them except the early cup rounds (see: Fábio) just so at a later date they can be labeled as homegrown players.
Fábio should never count as a Manchester United academy product, but he can be labeled as a product because of the FA's rules, in spite of the fact that he never played in their academy.
he couldnt play in our acadamy because he wasnt cleared, we got them at 16 or something.
whats the difference between 16 and barca getting iniesta at 14 or something?
poaching? the amount of nationalised players italy / brazil / spain / etc steal when theyre already established should knock you off that little high horse youre sitting on right now
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what part of not knowing if its an impressive stat do you lot not understand? i asked and got an answer, or are you stuck for good threads you try to jump on this?
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That's not true at all. Fábio officially joined Manchester United on July 1, 2008 -- 8 days before his 18th birthday. Fábio's first appearance as a player came in January 2009 -- more than 6 months after he signed for the club.cyberman wrote:he couldnt play in our acadamy because he wasnt cleared, we got them at 16 or something.
whats the difference between 16 and barca getting iniesta at 14 or something?
poaching? the amount of nationalised players italy / brazil / spain / etc steal when theyre already established should knock you off that little high horse youre sitting on right now
There is a huge difference between signing a player to join your academy when he is 12 (Iniesta) and signing a player to join your first-team when he is 17 (Fábio).
Yes, English teams routinely poach young players from abroad. God knows how many young Spanish footballers Arsenal and co. have poached due to the professional contract age signing difference.
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