Bundesliga

@Viva

Great posts, 100% signed.

Even RWO (who are currently in the 4th division) lose some promising players to the big guns - Max Meyer, who started as RWO kid, very soon went to the Schalke youth academy - not that I can't understand this; Schalke's youth academy is top notch after all. But I defo wouldn't want my team to belong to someone who just feels like collecting sports clubs for fun anyway. ^^

I'd also like to point out that Frankfurt is winning the effing Europa League while simultanously getting relegated. Effing metal!

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

VivaStPauli wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:I don't understand the debate about salary caps. How do salary caps work?

The idea is, that there's a maximum allowable salary for a player. This makes money borderline-irrelevant for transfers once all clubs have achieved a certain level of financial prowess.
The idea is, if the salary cap was, say, less than half of what the current top-earners make, they'd still all be massive millionaires, but mid-range clubs could pay 3-5 players the maximum allowable salary, meaning the "smaller" clubs wouldn't have all their players poached off them - eventually, the playing field would equalize, and things like youth programs, "work" environment etc would decide where players go over who pays the biggest salary.

It would mean that clubs like Atletico, Valencia, Fiorentina, Neverkusen, Schalke, Dortmund, Everton, Porto, or Marseille would get to keep their star players, unless they get actually lured away by another concept, like a different management style, strategy, or nicer city to live in.

Of course, now, this isn't possible anymore - but the thought is nice.

From a Chelsea fan who's fed up with big spending, that sounds like a good idea

A salary cap could never work because what number would be fair to everyone involved? In the Bundesliga Bayern, and now Dortmund, have the potential to make a hundred million euros while the small boys like Augsburg or Eintracht Braunschweig will not make nearly as much and financial prowess isn't something they are looking for, those clubs are just trying to avoid relegation. If you put a cap of say 20 million euros on a salary cap for players it would essentially make fiscal responsibility from Bayern and Dortmund to be useless by saying, here you have a bunch of money and now you can't spend it.

If you put the number higher, then the lower clubs won't be able to spend the money that the big boys can, rendering a salary cap useless. also, if you have a salary cap one thing that gets introduced is a salary floor, which is the minimum clubs are forced to spend. If you make a high salary cap for the big boys, the floor could crush the small boys, forcing them to lose money and cease to exist, even in a relegation struggle.

Bottom line, I don't believe in a salary cap.

ioilersrock448 wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

VivaStPauli wrote:The idea is, that there's a maximum allowable salary for a player. This makes money borderline-irrelevant for transfers once all clubs have achieved a certain level of financial prowess.
The idea is, if the salary cap was, say, less than half of what the current top-earners make, they'd still all be massive millionaires, but mid-range clubs could pay 3-5 players the maximum allowable salary, meaning the "smaller" clubs wouldn't have all their players poached off them - eventually, the playing field would equalize, and things like youth programs, "work" environment etc would decide where players go over who pays the biggest salary.

It would mean that clubs like Atletico, Valencia, Fiorentina, Neverkusen, Schalke, Dortmund, Everton, Porto, or Marseille would get to keep their star players, unless they get actually lured away by another concept, like a different management style, strategy, or nicer city to live in.

Of course, now, this isn't possible anymore - but the thought is nice.

From a Chelsea fan who's fed up with big spending, that sounds like a good idea

A salary cap could never work because what number would be fair to everyone involved? In the Bundesliga Bayern, and now Dortmund, have the potential to make a hundred million euros while the small boys like Augsburg or Eintracht Braunschweig will not make nearly as much and financial prowess isn't something they are looking for, those clubs are just trying to avoid relegation. If you put a cap of say 20 million euros on a salary cap for players it would essentially make fiscal responsibility from Bayern and Dortmund to be useless by saying, here you have a bunch of money and now you can't spend it.

If you put the number higher, then the lower clubs won't be able to spend the money that the big boys can, rendering a salary cap useless. also, if you have a salary cap one thing that gets introduced is a salary floor, which is the minimum clubs are forced to spend. If you make a high salary cap for the big boys, the floor could crush the small boys, forcing them to lose money and cease to exist, even in a relegation struggle.

Bottom line, I don't believe in a salary cap.

It simply becomes a socialist policy where all revenue is put into one big pot and then split evenly between every team.

httredskins47 wrote:

ioilersrock448 wrote:

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:From a Chelsea fan who's fed up with big spending, that sounds like a good idea

A salary cap could never work because what number would be fair to everyone involved? In the Bundesliga Bayern, and now Dortmund, have the potential to make a hundred million euros while the small boys like Augsburg or Eintracht Braunschweig will not make nearly as much and financial prowess isn't something they are looking for, those clubs are just trying to avoid relegation. If you put a cap of say 20 million euros on a salary cap for players it would essentially make fiscal responsibility from Bayern and Dortmund to be useless by saying, here you have a bunch of money and now you can't spend it.

If you put the number higher, then the lower clubs won't be able to spend the money that the big boys can, rendering a salary cap useless. also, if you have a salary cap one thing that gets introduced is a salary floor, which is the minimum clubs are forced to spend. If you make a high salary cap for the big boys, the floor could crush the small boys, forcing them to lose money and cease to exist, even in a relegation struggle.

Bottom line, I don't believe in a salary cap.

It simply becomes a socialist policy where all revenue is put into one big pot and then split evenly between every team.

Man do RG3 and the Skins suck this year. Painful to watch them.

Gil wrote:

httredskins47 wrote:

ioilersrock448 wrote:A salary cap could never work because what number would be fair to everyone involved? In the Bundesliga Bayern, and now Dortmund, have the potential to make a hundred million euros while the small boys like Augsburg or Eintracht Braunschweig will not make nearly as much and financial prowess isn't something they are looking for, those clubs are just trying to avoid relegation. If you put a cap of say 20 million euros on a salary cap for players it would essentially make fiscal responsibility from Bayern and Dortmund to be useless by saying, here you have a bunch of money and now you can't spend it.

If you put the number higher, then the lower clubs won't be able to spend the money that the big boys can, rendering a salary cap useless. also, if you have a salary cap one thing that gets introduced is a salary floor, which is the minimum clubs are forced to spend. If you make a high salary cap for the big boys, the floor could crush the small boys, forcing them to lose money and cease to exist, even in a relegation struggle.

Bottom line, I don't believe in a salary cap.

It simply becomes a socialist policy where all revenue is put into one big pot and then split evenly between every team.

Man do RG3 and the Skins suck this year. Painful to watch them.

Yea, he shouldn't have played until week 4 or 5. It was an idiotic move throwing him out there when he obviously wasn't fully recovered. I think he'll be fine next year with a full year of recovery and an actual off-season of training.

Gil wrote:Man do RG3 and the Skins suck this year. Painful to watch them.

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