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Post by The BoyWonder Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:40 pm

I think statistisc suggest a one-horse-league....

JUST look at the stats of the last decade from 2000-2011:

99-00: Bayern
00-01: Bayern
01-02: Dortmund
02-03: Bayern
03-04: Bremen
04-05: Bayern
05-06: Bayern
06-07: Stuttgart
07-08: Bayern
08-09: Wolfburg
09-10: Bayern
10-11: Dortmund

11-12: Bayern (most likely)

So basically Bayern all the time sandwiching _insert-random-midtable-team_...

not taking a dig at Bundesliga, but the nonsense ''Bundesliga most competitive league in europe'' bullcrap needs to be stopped....

even La Liga is more competitive than this :coffeeguy:

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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:22 pm

ok so Bundesliga: 5 different champions


2010/2011 AC Mailand
2009/2010 Inter Mailand
2008/2009 Inter Mailand
2007/2008 Inter Mailand
2006/2007 Inter Mailand
2005/2006 Inter Mailand
2003/2004 AC Mailand
2002/2003 Juventus Turin
2001/2002 Juventus Turin
2000/2001 AS Rom
1999/2000 Lazio Rom


Seria A: 5 different champions


2010/2011 FC Barcelona
2009/2010 FC Barcelona
2008/2009 FC Barcelona
2007/2008 Real Madrid
2006/2007 Real Madrid
2005/2006 FC Barcelona
2004/2005 FC Barcelona
2003/2004 FC Valencia
2002/2003 Real Madrid
2001/2002 FC Valencia
2000/2001 Real Madrid
1999/2000 Deportivo de La Coruña

Primera Division: 4 different champions


2010/2011 Manchester United
2009/2010 FC Chelsea
2008/2009 Manchester United
2007/2008 Manchester United
2006/2007 Manchester United
2005/2006 FC Chelsea
2004/2005 FC Chelsea
2003/2004 FC Arsenal
2002/2003 Manchester United
2001/2002 FC Arsenal
2000/2001 Manchester United
1999/2000 Manchester United

Premiere League: 3 different champions


So, can you please explain to me, where is your point?
According to your theory, the Premiere League is the least competitive league, followed by Primera Division. Bundesliga and SerieA are the most competitive.

Sorry but this is nonsense Wink
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:25 pm

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Post by RealGunner Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:37 pm

Bayern are winning it this year though, as the pattern suggests
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Post by rwo power Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:55 pm

Well, it's just matchday 7. We can only be sure at day 34 ^^
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Post by Serge Gnabry Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:01 pm

It would be much more competitive without Bayern, that's for sure.
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Post by BeautifulGame Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:27 pm

It is the most competitive league because u dont need millions of money to win the league.Borussa are a perfect example of that.

Do u think it is possible in any of the other leagues? Not in a million years.Thats why it is most most competitive league.Not just because they have 5 different champions.

Just see how much the likesof Madrid and City have invested to win the league.Or Liverpool or Juventus to just get a CL spot.U need financial might to win the league in PL or La liga or Seria A.But not in Bundensliga.
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Post by Jay29 Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:12 pm

What BeautifulGame says is true. Bundesliga is considered the most competitive because only one team is throwing about it's financial muscle while the rest are pretty much on equal footing. So if that one team, which is Munich, has a bad season then it's fair game between quite a few clubs whereas in other leagues, it's usally one team or another.


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Post by REWB Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:30 pm

i agree with goonerjay and beautifulgame
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:48 pm

Bundesliga is the fourth best league in the world, after PL, La Liga and SERIA A.

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Post by The Messiah Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:54 pm

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:ok so Bundesliga: 5 different champions


2010/2011 AC Mailand
2009/2010 Inter Mailand
2008/2009 Inter Mailand
2007/2008 Inter Mailand
2006/2007 Inter Mailand
2005/2006 Inter Mailand
2003/2004 AC Mailand
2002/2003 Juventus Turin
2001/2002 Juventus Turin
2000/2001 AS Rom
1999/2000 Lazio Rom


Seria A: 5 different champions


2010/2011 FC Barcelona
2009/2010 FC Barcelona
2008/2009 FC Barcelona
2007/2008 Real Madrid
2006/2007 Real Madrid
2005/2006 FC Barcelona
2004/2005 FC Barcelona
2003/2004 FC Valencia
2002/2003 Real Madrid
2001/2002 FC Valencia
2000/2001 Real Madrid
1999/2000 Deportivo de La Coruña

Primera Division: 4 different champions


2010/2011 Manchester United
2009/2010 FC Chelsea
2008/2009 Manchester United
2007/2008 Manchester United
2006/2007 Manchester United
2005/2006 FC Chelsea
2004/2005 FC Chelsea
2003/2004 FC Arsenal
2002/2003 Manchester United
2001/2002 FC Arsenal
2000/2001 Manchester United
1999/2000 Manchester United

Premiere League: 3 different champions


So, can you please explain to me, where is your point?
According to your theory, the Premiere League is the least competitive league, followed by Primera Division. Bundesliga and SerieA are the most competitive.

Sorry but this is nonsense Wink

You just destroyed wonder boy :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by rwo power Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:10 pm

english_jewel wrote:Bundesliga is the fourth best league in the world, after PL, La Liga and SERIA A.
Yawn. Troll elsewhere, Uli Hoeness already said that BL is only shortly behind La Liga and better than both EPL and Serie A Razz
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:56 pm

I always agree with almighty Hoeneß, but this time i think he is wrong.
EPL>Bundesliga>La Liga>Serie A
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Post by Sushi Master Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:05 pm

1 horse race with 2 teams 2 points off, hot on Bayern's trail?

Yeah, ok. :coffee:
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Post by Eivindo Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:31 pm

Ofc Bundesliga is the best league in the world.. look at how they are dominating the CL the past 10 years, clearly the best teams in the world :coffee:
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Post by Sushi Master Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:34 pm

Eivindo wrote:Ofc Bundesliga is the best league in the world.. look at how they are dominating the CL the past 10 years, clearly the best teams in the world :coffee:
The topic is competiveness, not quality. Clearly Bundesliga is just catching up to other leagues, and not in money but talent.

Oh, and 4 CL spots.

U mad?
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Post by The Messiah Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:26 am

Eivindo wrote:Ofc Bundesliga is the best league in the world.. look at how they are dominating the CL the past 10 years, clearly the best teams in the world :coffee:

You are absolutely Right....
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Post by justdoit_ Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:36 am

Seriously, some people need to take a look that the up-to-date UEFA coefficient standings.

Currently a 12 point gap from the Bundesliga down to Serie A, for comparisons sake, there's a 4 point gap from La Liga above the Bundesliga and 3.5 point gap between Serie A and Ligue 1.

Ze Germans are performing in Europe. It's undeniable.
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Post by Geo Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:46 am

Its the only league in the world, where a newly promoted club wins the title!

Borussia Mönchengladbach of this season, are the best example of the competitiveness in the league.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:55 am

I think German footbal will dominate football sometime in the future just like Seria A did before.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:00 am

Geo wrote:Its the only league in the world, where a newly promoted club wins the title!

Borussia Mönchengladbach of this season, are the best example of the competitiveness in the league.
Betis.
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Post by Serge Gnabry Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:05 am

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Post by pUsHa Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:38 am

Germans are competing in Europa League lol ... It's out of this world how Europa League points give you a CL spot ... like wtf !? Shouldnt it give them another EL spot ?
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Post by The Messiah Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:47 am

Ain't there teams from Serie A in Europa league, this just justify the balance in bundesliga.

No mega strong teams like Bayern, Milan, Inter, Madrid, Barcelona, United, Chelsea.

But Most teams in Bundesliga have reasonable balance between them, that is why they say the league is very competative and as they keep growing the entire league teams will gradually evolve from 2nd class team to 1st class teams together.

It will be unimaginable insane, Imagine having 15 1st class team in one league.
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Post by rwo power Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:49 am

Shouldn't the Italians be happy that EL points might give them back the CL spot (if they manage to win EL matches, that is)? If Italian teams don't take the EL serious while they know that EL points count towards the 5 year ranking, it is solely their own fault. The UEFA rules have been known for a while now.
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