Re: Predictions for El Clasico?

by ronalessi Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 0:58

free_cat wrote:
ronalessi wrote:coming together got Arteta a red card today in EPL

Not coming together, Arteta trips Chamakh on his left foot.

I think Mascherano's challenge on Ronaldo was a penalty, he pushed him with his arm. In the other angle it's clear. But Cesc also was penaltied by Pepe, so we are actually even.

I was not comparing the two fouls. Just showing mole that something that like could have been given in EPL.

I think a penalty would have made a big difference as it happened in the 73rd. It could have helped with momentum. Super Benzema would have come on earlier maybe?

Although, if Fabregas got a penalty, it could have turned into manita. Laughing

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by StrugaRock Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 0:59

The Sanchez wrote:
terrance511 wrote:
It's a penalty in my book and I give alot of these decisions week in week out. The fact is that Ronaldo is a diving scum and like Neymar that reputation ain't going to help when it comes to these decisions.

This

by Lex Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 0:59

Well for one, Chamakh didn't have the ball

Point two, where in the rules does it say that, if player A and player B trip each other up and player B has the ball, that player A has committed a foul?

by Onyx Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:01

Hopefully the next Clasico is at night. Feels much better and atmosphere is better too. During the day it feels too casual.

by Collblanc Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:03

i have the uefa b p2, maybe im going to get the uefa a but i need to know if i can get a job for it, it costs around 4000e to get it and therefor not cheap Wink

barça is barcelona for me Razz

been my life for a huge part, its 1 haha

by free_cat Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:05

Lex wrote:Well for one, Chamakh didn't have the ball

Point two, where in the rules does it say that, if player A and player B trip each other up and player B has the ball, that player A has committed a foul?

Arteta trips chamakh, unvoluntarily, that's true, but he trips him. Hence a foul. It's completely unarguable.

They don't trip each other, because it's Arteta who challenges Chamackh, who has the ball.

by ronalessi Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:05

Also, the ref never seen legs tangling. The ref thought he saw a massive body check or something. I dunno what he saw, but there's no way he saw the legs tangling that we can see in the slow motion gif.

poor decision to give a red card, but shit happens in every league now and then. That's all I was saying.

by Collblanc Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:07

and by the way, for those who are questioning why ramos was playing in the middle... didnt ancelotti expect messi to play there? i heard tata found out about madrids lineup in the afternoon and therefore switched messi to the wing to give him more space. ramos was completely lost in the middle because he had no one to mark in the defense and not enough room to participate in attack.

by free_cat Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:08

Collblanc wrote:i have the uefa b p2, maybe im going to get the uefa a but i need to know if i can get a job for it, it costs around 4000e to get it and therefor not cheap
barça is barcelona for me been my life for a huge part, its 1 haha

Ok, I didn't know anyone who calls the city Barça.
I think you can get a full license cheaper than that in Spain, but the License A to be able to coach in first division it's a three year course.

by free_cat Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:09

Collblanc wrote:and by the way, for those who are questioning why ramos was playing in the middle... didnt ancelotti expect messi to play there? i heard tata found out about madrids lineup in the afternoon and therefore switched messi to the wing to give him more space. ramos was completely lost in the middle because he had no one to mark in the defense and not enough room to participate in attack.

Catalan TV and radios filtered Barça lineup yesterday. So Tata already decided to play Messi as RW.

by Collblanc Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:10

im not looking to coach a first team, but u19 or something like that, you need license a for that as well. i now have for u14 and 11v11 and training but it would be nice to coach youngsters in the future Very Happy

by Collblanc Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:11

free_cat wrote:
Collblanc wrote:and by the way, for those who are questioning why ramos was playing in the middle... didnt ancelotti expect messi to play there? i heard tata found out about madrids lineup in the afternoon and therefore switched messi to the wing to give him more space. ramos was completely lost in the middle because he had no one to mark in the defense and not enough room to participate in attack.
Catalan TV and radios filtered Barça lineup yesterday. So Tata already decided to play Messi as RW.

thanks didnt know this, heard it after the game that the lineup was leaked and because of that messi was played 'out of position'. did rac1 leak it??

by The Sanchez Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:15

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It is shameful for any club to publish about refereeing decisions that costed them the game as their main headline. It really is, you can mention that maybe their were some controvesial decisions but not like the referee costed the game. They are basically calling the referee a cheat and no matter what level of football you play, any player that call a referee a cheat is given a straight direct red card. If players get fined/sent off for such similar circumstances I believe clubs should get fined as well.

by Collblanc Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:20

such sore losers Very Happy

by free_cat Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:20

Collblanc wrote:
free_cat wrote:
Collblanc wrote:and by the way, for those who are questioning why ramos was playing in the middle... didnt ancelotti expect messi to play there? i heard tata found out about madrids lineup in the afternoon and therefore switched messi to the wing to give him more space. ramos was completely lost in the middle because he had no one to mark in the defense and not enough room to participate in attack.
Catalan TV and radios filtered Barça lineup yesterday. So Tata already decided to play Messi as RW.
thanks didnt know this, heard it after the game that the lineup was leaked and because of that messi was played 'out of position'. did rac1 leak it??

Yes, Rac1 and Tv3 also. It seems tata trained with this lineup on friday.

by ronalessi Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:21

lol where is the second penalty call from?

by Collblanc Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:21

handball on adriano

by free_cat Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 1:22

ronalessi wrote:lol where is the second penalty call from?

An alleged handball from Adriano, that was completely unvoluntary.

by LeSwagg James Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 2:55

The Sanchez wrote:
It is shameful for any club to publish about refereeing decisions that costed them the game as their main headline. It really is, you can mention that maybe their were some controvesial decisions but not like the referee costed the game. They are basically calling the referee a cheat and no matter what level of football you play, any player that call a referee a cheat is given a straight direct red card. If players get fined/sent off for such similar circumstances I believe clubs should get fined as well.

Not a good look at all..

by Thimmy Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 3:52

The Sanchez wrote:
It is shameful for any club to publish about refereeing decisions that costed them the game as their main headline. It really is, you can mention that maybe their were some controvesial decisions but not like the referee costed the game. They are basically calling the referee a cheat and no matter what level of football you play, any player that call a referee a cheat is given a straight direct red card. If players get fined/sent off for such similar circumstances I believe clubs should get fined as well.

They're not calling the ref a cheat, they're claiming that he made the wrong decisions - there's a big difference. Still, I get what you're saying.. it's quite unprofessional for a club's official site to publish something like that. Also, I don't know why they included the handball by Sanchez. It didn't look intentional, and I don't think it would have made much of a difference if he hadn't touched the ball with his hand... it was hardly "a clear penalty", like that headline would have you believe.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 3:58

Excessive ref bashing is often punishable for players by the RFEF, knowing this RM as an institution should not get involved in such actions as they could face fines. And if the reports of Ronaldo telling the ref "You are a fearful f***" is quite disgraceful, even if it was made in a moment of heat. Players have been sent off for less than that.

by Le Samourai Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 5:10

The only other time I've seen shown a straight red for something that innocuous is Ozil against Villareal lol. If a referee decides to send off someone for insulting him, he has serious issues.

by BarcaLearning Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 5:15

We were better for most of the match, but still we were lucky to win it, such a strange game. That late goal as well, I thought we would keep a cleanm sheet vs Real for once, but no, meh.

As soon as I saw Bale start I thought Real would struggle up front. No Isco for the last 2 big games now, its puzzling, since hes done so well. Maybe Ancelotti is under pressure to play the stars Razz

Di Maria had a poor game, Ronaldo was frustrated as Very Happy

But still we should have done better, we have been on top form and with a more consistent team now than Real.... Messi could have played better I thought....in the end Neymar and Iniesta bosses it, Macherano making mistake nowadays again Sad

Great thing Sanchez made the difference while Cesc struggle in the big game again.... happy with Valdes.

by halamadrid2 Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 9:12

Collblanc wrote:and by the way, for those who are questioning why ramos was playing in the middle... didnt ancelotti expect messi to play there? i heard tata found out about madrids lineup in the afternoon and therefore switched messi to the wing to give him more space. ramos was completely lost in the middle because he had no one to mark in the defense and not enough room to participate in attack.

yh I heard that as well. somebody from our camp must have leaked it

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by halamadrid2 Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 9:14

free_cat wrote:
ronalessi wrote:lol where is the second penalty call from?
An alleged handball from Adriano, that was completely unvoluntary.

in spain it doesn't matter if its voluntary or un voluntary they call both which is probably why they included that

anyways lol at clinging on to referees decisions we have benefited from this season. Carlo lost us the game yesterday noone else

by terrance511 Sun 27 Oct 2013 - 9:56

messi on wings is not nothing, it nullified marcelo attack as well.

never seen marcelo had such a shaky performance. his leg literally shaking on 1 or 2 dribbling.

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