Re: Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VII

by McAgger Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:34 pm

RedOranje wrote:
McAgger wrote:I love how randomly we're linked with almost every player.
More specifically strikers. We've bought one specific striker and another attacking player/forward this window already, have another returning from injury, another who was in absolutely outstanding form since joining, and a final forward who's one of the best in the PL. The manager himself has stated that we're looking at making two signings, a CAM and a defender. So why do they keep rolling out the striker rumors?

I feel as though all of these journalists, Internet Bullshit Artist's, etc think Suarez is as good as gone so anyone who is half decent must be in our radar.

by RedOranje Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:39 pm

You bash Reina yet defend Skrtel, Agger, and Enrique. You call Reina "super mistake prone" which is clearly a massive exaggeration, even with the mistakes he made early last season. Worst of all though, you state (and I quote), "Mignolet is without a doubt better than him which is why we're all so very happy to have him replacing Reina" as though it's fact (news flash, it isn't) and as though all Liverpool fans are in agreement (news flash, we aren't). Two HUGE pet peeves of mine wrapped up in one nice little bow there.

You're better than that. I'm as surprised as I am disappointed to see it.

by McAgger Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:56 pm

I think I've bashed Skrtel and Enrique enough for a lifetime. Reina being mistake prone is not a massive exaggeration, the amount of times he made huge mistakes that cost us goals is simply not acceptable for big clubs. As for Mig being better than Reina, I will definitely back that statement because in my mind he's already surpassed Reina in, if not in ability (which I think he has), than definitely in form. This Reina is not the same as the Reina 2006-10. As for all LFC fans on the forum being in agreement with me, sure you are right, I overstepped there. But I do know ynwa holds the same stance in that regard.

by RedOranje Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:24 am

It wasn't the mistake prone, it was the "super" part.

by DeviAngel Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:37 am

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
David Moyes said Man Utd are prepared to spend up to £100 million to sign Gareth Bale and Cesc Fabregas. [The Times]

I doubt that will happen, but if it would happen that would make united one deadly team because of Bale about Fabregas I dunno for me he is not the same player he was once

by McAgger Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:43 am

RedOranje wrote:It wasn't the mistake prone, it was the "super" part.

Guilty as charged. I should've chosen my words more carefully, always forget how deeply every word gets dissected on here.

by RedOranje Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:53 am

"I can't believe how when I make grossly exaggerated and sweeping comments about a particular subject that's not at all objective people voice their disagreement with me!"

by CBarca Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:06 am

RedOranje wrote:"I can't believe how when I make grossly exaggerated and sweeping comments about a particular subject that's not at all objective people voice their disagreement with me!"

you see this is why you and Sepi would make such a cute couple Heart

Manchester United prepared to spend 100 million pounds on Fabregas and Bale is actually a funny rumor because it shows that they are ambitious and willing to spend...when in reality it means nothing because both clubs have a strict "not selling" stance. It's like when people say Arsenal are willing to spend 40 million pounds to bring in Suarez Laughing

by The Sanchez Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:07 am

CBarca wrote:
RedOranje wrote:"I can't believe how when I make grossly exaggerated and sweeping comments about a particular subject that's not at all objective people voice their disagreement with me!"

you see this is why you and Sepi would make such a cute couple

Manchester United prepared to spend 100 million pounds on Fabregas and Bale is actually a funny rumor because it shows that they are ambitious and willing to spend...when in reality it means nothing because both clubs have a strict "not selling" stance. It's like when people say Arsenal are willing to spend 40 million pounds to bring in Suarez

by B-Mac Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:02 am

CBarca wrote:
RedOranje wrote:"I can't believe how when I make grossly exaggerated and sweeping comments about a particular subject that's not at all objective people voice their disagreement with me!"

you see this is why you and Sepi would make such a cute couple

Manchester United prepared to spend 100 million pounds on Fabregas and Bale is actually a funny rumor because it shows that they are ambitious and willing to spend...when in reality it means nothing because both clubs have a strict "not selling" stance. It's like when people say Arsenal are willing to spend 40 million pounds to bring in Suarez

but Rooney is not for sale....but he is surely gone according to everyone :coffee:

Modric was not for sale, neither was Berbatov....neither are half the big names that get sold

by CBarca Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:12 am

Different cases.

Modric was not for sale the summer before and Levy stuck with it. That's the summer you want to compare with Bale right now, not the one after. The one after everybody and their mothers knew Modric was a goner and Levy simply tried to get the best price. If Tottenham miss out on CL next season the same thing will happen with Bale.

Berbatov idk too much about since I didn't follow Tottenham closely at the time but iirc he forced his move as well. Given the fee Tottenham got, I'm not surprised. Modric also forced his move 2 summers in a row.

These cases are different. Neither of them will go and neither player wants to leave or is even thinking about forcing a move. Both clubs will not budge on that either and neither want the player to leave. In Fab's case that's unfortunate because I'd sell him for 17 million pounds.

Kind of apples and oranges here.

by dostoevsky Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:52 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Pretty poor CB's in terms of mounting a title challenge

Maggio is a bad RB

Armero again is a wing back, might be ok at LB though

Behrami, don't rate him

Inler is a very good player

Callejon Insigne Damio is ok but nothing on what they've had in recent times.

All in all their team up until this point does not look too good, and that's assuming they even get Damiao

I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of Napoli's midfield, as despite Inler's quality, he was quite simply outperformed by Behrami last season and I think this needs to be taken into consideration. Inler's performances must be addressed by Benitez or a suitable alternative found in the market as whilst Behrami---Dzemaili proved itself to be functional last season in Mazzari's system, I can not see it faring well in Europe if Gokhan once more fails to live up to his high expectations. Given Napoli's impressive transfer budget and past interest, a serious push for Verratti would be well advisable in my eyes. Given that Napoli will be trying to compete in three competitions however, I do think it would be advisable to consider bringing in serious competition for Behrami, which will ensure the high level of competition required in a squad challenging on all fronts as well as allowing Dzemaili to primarily be used as a back-up for Hamsik rather than being used in a deeper position. A name such as Gustavo would be perfect, however I can not see the Brazilian moving though it would be potentially wise in the search for a first eleven place ahead of the World Cup. Nainggolan is a realistic purchase given their past interest and the fact that their main competitors for his signature seem to have fallen off the chase.

I do wholeheartedly agree with you that the ability to grind out results is hardly a unique property amongst the top teams, however I do believe that properly addressing the transition from a three man backline to Benitez's four is more crucial than finding a truly outstanding central forward. Also key shall be Benitez's man management as he seeks to ensure that the incredible team spirit in Napoli continues. Even seasons ago, with a smaller squad with less investment, Napoli's home record and ability to continually salvage results from the fire - on the order of an extra 20 points won in the final fifteen minutes of matches just halfway through the season - were paramount to their league form. It is as much a product of a strong squad atmosphere as the abilities of the players.

Nethertheless, Napoli are still very much incomplete, however the market is still young and it is still too early to judge their market in my opinion. They have, as of now, addressed their depth in attack sufficiently. As you have said, they should be looking to add two new fullbacks, possibly another central defender, a centre forward and if they can find players of sufficient quality, competition for Behrami---Inler.

It is rare for a team to restructure entirely in the early weeks of the market. Given De Laurentis' announcement concerning their willingness to invest and the figures currently spend, Napoli deserve the benefit of the doubt concerning their transfer policy given that we still have well over a month to go in the market.

by marottalad Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:35 am

This Napoli project will fail. Damaio is unproven why not spend 5-10 mil more to get higuain ffs. maggio is a good right wing back but not a good enough right back, armero is abit of a brainless runner, zuniga is a solid left wing back but nothing more probably can't cut it at left back and who are napoli gonna get in for left back?.... callejon is a deceant player haven't seen enough of him to judge but not a lavezzi esque level, mertens seems like a good solid winger but not amazing and insigne though highly talented is young and extremely short which can be an issue when coming up against bigger defenders e.g giovinco syndrome. Albiol yeah allright pretty good signing but nothing amazing i don't understand why napoli didn't go for Sakho and they could have got Ogbonna but moved far to late.

They could have potentially have had a 4 man defence of

Rb? sakho cannavaro ogbonna that looks good to me

They need to buy quality not quantity they will just waste all of their money if they don't up grade. Getting rid of de sanctis was a good move though terribely overated keeper

by zizzle Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:12 am

Why is everyone is acting like Napoli are scodetto contenders anyway ? they are not, and the way they're conducting their transfers it's clear that they're not even trying to compete with Juvi next year. Napoli are going through a transition period and it's only wise to strengthen their squad while keeping a tight purse. If anything it would be a couple more seasons until Napoli become serious title contenders and that depends on whether Benitez succeeds in the first place.

by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:38 am

Rafa Benitez: We will we get two forwards one who can give support(aka SS) and one center forward

4-4-2??

the two players he is talking about are most likely Damiao and Higuain

makes sense why he got Callejon now who is a hardworking traditional winger which you need in a 4-4-2

by ExtremistEnigma Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:28 am

He'll obviously start with his trademark 4-2-3-1. Callejon might be his Kuyt, perhaps.

by flameas Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:40 am

I wish Napoli would be in EL. They could go far there..but not in CL..

by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:46 am

ExtremistEnigma wrote:He'll obviously start with his trademark 4-2-3-1. Callejon might be his Kuyt, perhaps.

Then that would mean Hamsik will have no place in the team. I think he is looking at a 2 striker formation with hamsik supporting them from the middle

by The_Badger Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:47 am

flameas wrote:I wish Napoli would be in EL. They could go far there..but not in CL..

They may well drop into the EL.

by Onyx Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:36 am

PSG to holds talks with Sporting Lisbon to sign goalkeeper Rui Patricio, according to A Bola.

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PSG close to making an offer for Cabaye, according to Le Parisien.

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Reports coming out of France claim Newcastle midfielder Sylvain Marveaux could be a target for Olympiakos. L’Equipe suggests Olympiakos are keen to sign Marveaux on loan with a view to a permanent move.

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Newcastle have made a €13-14m bid for Marseille striker Gignac, according to beIN Sport.

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Newcastle are interested in Gomis, according to manager Alan Pardew.

"We have expressed an interest in Gomis," Pardew told The Times.

"We think that he's a player who has great potential.

"He's a French international who's played at the highest level for his club."

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by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:48 am

Mole stay safe

by sportsczy Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:54 am

Gomis is better than Cisse though... by quite a bit. He makes good runs and stays within what he can do. 19 goals and 5 assists as a part time starter was pretty decent.

He is a big air presence.

As long as you understand what he can and can't do and don't expect more, you're fine. Cisse is random. Gomis is not random.

by EL Patron Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:04 am

Gomis is not better than Cisse, the only thing he has going for him is his strenght and power Laughing

by Onyx Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:48 am

Benfica and Fenerbahce have an agreement for Oscar Cardozo.

by sportsczy Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:03 am

I watched both Gomis and Cisse quite a bit last year. Cisse doesn't really have a plan or any true consistent method about how he makes runs. It's soooo random. That's why he ended up scoring only 13 goals and 2 assists on over 100 shots.

Gomis is very good at holding up the ball and finding an open teammate and does very good runs. You can see what he's trying to do. He had the same number of shots as Cisse just about.. but ended up with 18 goals and 5 assists.

I think Gomis is much, much better. He's by no means a very good CF. But he's a consistent one. He brings a physical presence that drives CBs crazy too. That's why you saw Grenier get all those open shots from the edge of the box late in games: Gomis had pushed the CBs back.

It's not all about the goals for a CF. It's also about the effect you have on a defense.

by Cotes Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:13 am

flameas wrote:I wish Napoli would be in EL. They could go far there..but not in CL..

why not?
they went far enough 2011/2012 Champions League...
Now they have a more all-round squad & a coach with champions league experience...

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