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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:36 pm

Uli Hoeness, champions of mocking clubs across europe is now involved in massive tax scandal. So much for giving lessons to all of football while being a cheat.

Dat bavarian class Proud buffoon

Uli Hoeness, president of Bayern Munich and a leading public figure known for his advocacy of financial fair play, has admitted to stashing away millions of euros in a Swiss bank account.
By Sébastian SEIBT (text)

The man who once embodied everything that was right about German football –success on the field without the financial superfluity– has admitted to stashing away millions of euros in a secret bank account in Switzerland.

Uli Hoeness, the president of Bayern Munich - the most decorated football club in Germany’s history - told the weekly Focus over the weekend that he had voluntarily informed German tax authorities in January that he hid part of his fortune across the border.

He said he had used the bank account for at least the past 10 years, but refused to divulge exactly how many millions he had kept in his Swiss bank account.

The revelation has caused a major uproar in Germany, where, until recently, Hoeness was known as the “Mr Clean” of German football.

A Bayern striker who played for the West German national team in the 1970s, he later became the Bavarian club’s coach and oversaw a golden period in which the club won major domestic and international trophies. Hoeness, 61, has been Bayern’s president since 2009.

A dream destroyed

The intense media storm now surrounding Hoeness has underscored his importance in Germany, not only in sports, but off the field as well.

Commentators have been quick to draw attention to the image of honesty and selflessness that Hoeness spent years cultivating, an image that has been suddenly and violently shattered.

“Not you, Uli!” lamented Sueddeutsche Zeitung, Bavaria’s leading newspaper on Sunday, while the popular daily Bild splashed with “Uli, you pinhead.”

Indeed, Hoeness has been a fierce critic of wastefulness in football, never missing an opportunity to slam the overblown budgets of Spanish and Italian clubs.

But he was also used to giving lessons on fiscal discipline and honesty in general.

“Maybe I'm a fool, but I've always paid my taxes in full,” he told Bild in a 2005 article. “I'm looking for success but not at any price. When it comes to money, sometimes you have to say enough is enough,” he said in another interview with the business weekly Brandeins in 2011.

Amid a wave of recent tax fraud scandals in Germany, and in neighbouring France as well, Hoeness –who is also a successful businessman- was considered by many in his home country as an example of financial success combined with moral integrity.

Only a few weeks ago the weekly Der Spiegel solemnly said that German politics “needed more people like Uli Hoeness”, viewed as a model not just for football but the country as a whole.

“Many people in Germany are now disappointed in Uli Hoeness and the chancellor is among those people,” Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, said Monday.

“[Hoeness] stands for so much that is positive,” Seibert added. “These merits remain, but another sad facet has been added.”
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Post by LeSwagg James Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:43 pm

rofl
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Post by Fuchsteufelswild Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:05 pm

And all the Uli Hoeness haters across Germany and from sugar daddy clubs rejoice. Not that it has anything to do with the validity of his arguments and has nothing to do with his football club. I'm looking forward to the full story coming out and you'll all be looking like fools. He's going to come out of this looking like a champion. Haters gonna hate.
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Post by Gil Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:31 pm

Loooooooooooooooooolllllllll rofl


I'm dying here.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:39 pm

There's nothing illegal about having foreign bank accounts anywhere you want, including Switzerland, as long as you pay the taxes that you are legally required to. One of the reasons you do it is to protect your money from litigation. Another is for government risk... for example. if you're a cyprus resident/citizen with over 100k, you wish you had a swiss bank account lol.

Bottom line is to see if Uli was actually cheating or just doing standard risk management... because it is standard in this day an age to have at least one bank in a haven if you have any type of wealth.
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Post by Zealous Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:22 pm

sportsczy wrote:There's nothing illegal about having foreign bank accounts anywhere you want, including Switzerland, as long as you pay the taxes that you are legally required to. One of the reasons you do it is to protect your money from litigation. Another is for government risk... for example. if you're a cyprus resident/citizen with over 100k, you wish you had a swiss bank account lol.

Bottom line is to see if Uli was actually cheating or just doing standard risk management... because it is standard in this day an age to have at least one bank in a haven if you have any type of wealth.

Pretty much this. However if the investigation does show there has been some tax evasion then it couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy Laughing
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Post by kiranr Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:02 pm


Dat fall from that moral high ground (if evasion charges proven).
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Post by sportsczy Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:47 pm

What is very hypocritical no matter what by Uli is this: He keeps criticizing clubs of manipulating FFP and urging Platini to punish clubs regardless of them legally adhering to FFP. What he's doing here is legally adhering to German tax laws (hopefully lol), but using the loopholes to protect himself via a foreign bank account.

Again, there's nothing illegal about what he's doing (again hopefully lol). But he is using the system to his advantage.
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Post by rwo power Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:50 pm

Well, i just read the newest transfer rumours in another forum:

The next big transfer of Bayern is coming up soon: Uli Hoeneß to JVA* München for 6 mio Euros






*Justizvollzugsanstalt = prison
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Post by jibers Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:57 pm

rwo power wrote:Well, i just read the newest transfer rumours in another forum:

The next big transfer of Bayern is coming up soon: Uli Hoeneß to JVA* München for 6 mio Euros






*Justizvollzugsanstalt = prison

Better from you RWO rofl

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Post by rwo power Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:08 pm

Well, frankly, I'm utterly disappointed atm - by Hoeneß, by Bayern and by Mario Götze. No
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:28 pm

Hoeness is still right about FFP, even if he's right in his jail cell.
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Post by che Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:55 pm

Indeed, Hoeness has been a fierce critic of wastefulness in football, never missing an opportunity to slam the overblown budgets of Spanish and Italian clubs.

But he was also used to giving lessons on fiscal discipline and honesty in general.

so to sum up, guy who stashes money in a foreign bank account instead of spending it is a hypocrite because he was calling for fiscal discipline and criticising overblown budgets?

wat?
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Post by Babun Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:04 am

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/staatsanwaltschaft-erliess-haftbefehl-gegen-hoeness-a-896136.html

There was an arrest warrant on Uli Höneß on March 20th. He isn#t in jail because he paid caution in the regions of 5m € :coffee: What a cheat! I hope he rots in jail...
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