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Post by Casciavit Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:51 pm

Who would you rather have on your team, and why?
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:16 pm

What's with the endless Wheelchair v random Germans threads?
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Post by RealGunner Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:18 pm

Can we change this to Thiago vs Gundogan
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Post by REWB Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:36 pm

arent they different players? atm jack is playing an AM role and gundo is more of an all round cm?????
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Post by Kaladin Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:49 pm

Change this to Bakaye vs Gundogan
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:49 pm

REWB wrote:arent they different players? atm jack is playing an AM role and gundo is more of an all round cm?????

Well, we were told that Wheelchair was a CM/DM when someone said that Kroos/Özil/Götze are better than him.

WTF is Wilshere now these days? I mean he's pretty good, obviously. But good at what?
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Post by Casciavit Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:55 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:What's with the endless Wheelchair v random Germans threads?


German vs English debates are always fun to witness :coffee:
All kidding aside, it seemed like posters rated Gundogan quite highly and I wanted to see whether they rate him higher than Wilshere and who would they rather take on their team based on current needs.
His name was also thrown around a couple times I think it was Surag and Mole who said its highly debatable whether Wilshere is even better than Gundogan a while back.

REWB wrote:arent they different players? atm jack is playing an AM role and gundo is more of an all round cm?????

According to whoscored Wilshere has played most of his games this seasons as a CM, 18 games as a CM and 5 games as an AM. Though he has been playing as an AM over these past 2 matches.
And a while back in the Kroos vs Wilshere thread a lot of you guys started saying that Wilshere is a CM/DM while Kroos is an AM.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:03 pm

Until Wilshere improves his decision making and passing/final ball he shouldn't be mentioned alongside players like this.

Don't get me wrong he's ridiculously talented but the only thing he has on players like Kroos and Gundogan at the moment is his dribbling.

His passing and decision making is well below them at the moment.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:09 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Until Wilshere improves his decision making and passing/final ball he shouldn't be mentioned alongside players like this.

Don't get me wrong he's ridiculously talented but the only thing he has on players like Kroos and Gundogan at the moment is his dribbling.

His passing and decision making is well below them at the moment.

He has the exact same Passing success rate as Gundogan at 86.6% though?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:56 pm

This when stats are misleading..... final ball and decision making can't be decided by pass completion rate.

If it were then Allen would be the GOD.

Wilshere's dribbling is more impressive than his final ball and decision making at the moment.

Just realised i'm responding to a 3 day old post but who cares Laughing
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:31 pm

Makes you only 3 times as right.
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