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Post by Zealous Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:02 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Zealous wrote:Doesn't mean that it is either.

Serves Adriano right. He could have had a 1v1 situation if he decided to be a man and go for it. Be angry at Adriano for taking a dive (he took a dive this isn't up for debate whether it is a pen or not) not at the ref for having the sense not to reward Adriano for his efforts to steal the draw.

I'm more angry at Roura than either Adriano or the referee.

I will ask you one question, why do you belive that Ramos didn't give a straight answer when they asked him about the penalty? If you were on Ramos or Adriano's position you would know whether or not there was contact, so you wouldn't need to see any images..

Because he doesn't have to? And even if there was any contact it was minimal, Adriano could have kept going but jumped in the air and let himself fall to the ground.

Perez Lasa has never blown for a penalty against Barcelona or Real Madrid in his entire career. If you think he was going to call a penalty for Barcelona at the Bernabeu in stoppage time for anything less than a homicide then you're sorely mistaken.

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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:45 pm

Barca complaining about refs always makes me Laughing

Karma is a biatch, isn't it.
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Post by harhar11 Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:57 pm

Zealous wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
Zealous wrote:Doesn't mean that it is either.

Serves Adriano right. He could have had a 1v1 situation if he decided to be a man and go for it. Be angry at Adriano for taking a dive (he took a dive this isn't up for debate whether it is a pen or not) not at the ref for having the sense not to reward Adriano for his efforts to steal the draw.

I'm more angry at Roura than either Adriano or the referee.

I will ask you one question, why do you belive that Ramos didn't give a straight answer when they asked him about the penalty? If you were on Ramos or Adriano's position you would know whether or not there was contact, so you wouldn't need to see any images..

Because he doesn't have to? And even if there was any contact it was minimal, Adriano could have kept going but jumped in the air and let himself fall to the ground.

Perez Lasa has never blown for a penalty against Barcelona or Real Madrid in his entire career. If you think he was going to call a penalty for Barcelona at the Bernabeu in stoppage time for anything less than a homicide then you're sorely mistaken.

dude, 100% of every player in todays game is going to make a meal of that. But even if he did make a meal of it, it doesn't change the fact that there was a contact and that it was a penalty..

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Anyway Barca's "We don't talk about referees" philosophy is about as legit as Messi's "flu".

Wasn't that Guardiola's motto?

And who are you, real madrid fans, to preach about hypocrisy? Don't you remember Sergio Ramos "It's time to drop all this talk about referees", when they got a decision in their favour, and then they get one against them and he says "They've harmed us in more than one match now. It's about time they make a mistake in our favour". So it aint as if you are in any position to criticize/laugh at another team for being a hipocrite..

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:38 pm

Thing is he loses credibility by making a meal of that. If he just falls or stumbles very obviously it's better than launching yourself into the air like a diver into an olympic pool.

In any case there was contact but not enough to justify a pen imho and Adriano made such a meal of it the ref can't be blamed for thinking he was diving (if this was the case then he should've used a yellow for simulation though).
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Post by harhar11 Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:09 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Thing is he loses credibility by making a meal of that. If he just falls or stumbles very obviously it's better than launching yourself into the air like a diver into an olympic pool.

In any case there was contact but not enough to justify a pen imho and Adriano made such a meal of it the ref can't be blamed for thinking he was diving (if this was the case then he should've used a yellow for simulation though).

I don't know mate. When you are running, especially if you are controlling the ball at the same time, the smallest of touches on your feet can make you lose your balance. And all it takes for you to lose a clear chances is to be unbalanced for just 1 second.

Here's an example.



Messi had a clear chance ruined by that small contact from the defender, but it was not enough for him to fall down. For me, even though the commentators don't agree, is a 100% stonewall penalty, but because Messi didn't "exagerate" the contact and "dive"/fall down, the ref didnt give it.

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Post by The Sanchez Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:07 am

If there is any contact with the player no matter whether he falls down or not, its a penalty. Clearly Spanish referees do not see this crap...
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Post by LeBéninois Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:24 am

sportsczy wrote:Barca complaining about refs always makes me Laughing

Karma is a biatch, isn't it.

What's that mean ? If you have ever got some decisions in your way an then you got some bad decisions against you , you should just shut up and say '' it's ok '' ?
Almost every team in the world has gotten calls in their favor soo ...
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