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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:30 pm

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html

England 4th
Uruguay 16th
France 17th
Brazil 18th
Belgium 20th

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Post by Ganso Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:42 pm

belgium went up Proud
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Post by Onyx Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:44 pm

England 4th. :bow:

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Post by dostoevsky Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:49 pm

This thread is always started and everyone has a chuckle, however whilst these rankings shouldn't be taken as measures of merit, England do deserve a very decent ranking considering how solid they have been under Hodgson.

How they handle Montenegro away from home in their World Cup qualifiers will tell us more about what we need to know about the team than friendly results though, even against the most illustrious opponents.
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Post by Lupi Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:55 pm

i take a moment of silence and do my face palm
then i move on
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Post by The Sanchez Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:05 pm

Epoto wrote:i take a moment of silence and do my face palm
then i move on

rofl

Australia moved down as well. No Stfu Holger
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:07 pm

I give up on the rankings, friendlies should count for nothing when ranking teams in my opinion. Many major International teams use friendlies to experiment with tactics, line-ups etc and end up losing to teams they could sweep aside if they had to.

England are the masters of friendlies but can't translate any of it to the big tournaments.
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Post by Kick Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:24 pm

England :bow:

Woy :bow:

Hoofball :bow:

Lampard :bow:
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Post by dostoevsky Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:29 pm

If people are criticising England for being the master of friendlies and failing in international tournaments then why is no one questioning why Argentina are third?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:49 pm

Because we've been kicking ass in WC qualifier matches Laughing

Also Tom friendlies count towards the least amount of points
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:01 am

I know bro but they still count, England hardly rack up the points in tournaments and they aren't even top of there own group. I think friendlies should have absolutely no effect on rankings. Because the whole idea of a friendly being...well... a friendly, is that it counts for nothing. Then you would have a more realistic view on which clubs were getting the best results in games which actually count for something.
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Post by Last-Bullet Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:52 am

What position is Nigeria ranked.? Thanks
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Post by nasir6371 Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:12 am

30th for Nigeria.

4 African teams in the top 30 (3 in top 25) Proud
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Post by Last-Bullet Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:17 am

nasir6371 wrote:30th for Nigeria.

4 African teams in the top 30 (3 in top 25) Proud

Africa football is still developing, we have the players but lack good coaches and infrastructure/facilities.

Nigeria government recently pooped money into NFF and as a result there are massive improvement.


Good rating for us.
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Post by Donuts Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:52 am

Mexico :bow:
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Post by VivaStPauli Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:30 am

Why is this a thread each time the rankings are updated?

By now we should all know that the FIFA-rankings are purely numerical, and only determined through statistics, friendlies count less, but they do count some.

So obviously they can only be taken semi-serious after large international tournaments, and even then only with a grain of salt.

I know it's kinda funny, but stop the "me so shocked"-act, please.
Thank you, that is all.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:35 am

Why are people surprised? we hardly ever lose and when we do its on penalties Laughing

Fifa Rankings is basically a league table and we get results more often than not so its hardly surprising.
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Post by Highburied Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:19 am

Yeah

Why Argentina are third?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:33 am

highburied wrote:Yeah

Why Argentina are third?

Because they have been unbeaten for over a year, as i said the Fifa Rankings is a glorified league table.

Take from it what you will.
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Post by Die Borussen Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:34 am

the list seems legit to me

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Post by Highburied Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:38 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
highburied wrote:Yeah

Why Argentina are third?

Because they have been unbeaten for over a year, as i said the Fifa Rankings is a glorified league table.

Take from it what you will.

What is Englands recent record?
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Post by RealGunner Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:54 am

Well deserved
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Post by Onyx Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:21 am

England have lost twice in the past year, not counting the loss on penalties vs Italy.

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Post by dostoevsky Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:38 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Because we've been kicking ass in WC qualifier matches Laughing

Also Tom friendlies count towards the least amount of points

It would hardly be unusual for a team to shine during qualifiers only to come to nothing when everything is really on the line. I'm not for a moment suggesting that Argentina aren't a very fine team, however the arguments given are entirely subjective when we begin to draw the other teams mentioned such as France, Uruguay, Brazil and Belgium into the mix.

The rankings must be consistent in attributing merit or there is no point in stating that some positions are justified and others aren't. Otherwise it's simply a case of, to borrow Mole's phrase, the league table validating our preconceived ideas or not.
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Post by barca 2011 Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:03 am

TomJuve wrote:I give up on the rankings, friendlies should count for nothing when ranking teams in my opinion. Many major International teams use friendlies to experiment with tactics, line-ups etc and end up losing to teams they could sweep aside if they had to.

England are the masters of friendlies but can't translate any of it to the big tournaments.
But if friendlies were to count for nothing, when else would a NT ever get a chance to do anything significant, if not climb the ranks a bit? I just don't get why friendlies get so much hate, and at the same time people expect a NT to do amazingly with the little time they already play together. The amount of criticism makes no sense.
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