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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:17 am

England move two places up to 4th, with only Germany, Holland and Spain better than them apparently.

Ranking - Country - Movement (apologies for the shite formatting)

1 Spain 1871 0
2 Netherlands 1661 0
3 Germany 1417 1
4 England 1146 2
5 Brazil 1130 -2
6 Italy 1059 3
7 Portugal 1046 1
8 Croatia 1033 2
9 Mexico 1007 19
10 Argentina 979 -5
11 Norway 972 0
12 Greece 959 0
13 Japan 925 1
14 Côte d'Ivoire 922 7
15 France 920 4

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/index.html

:lol!:

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Post by aunshi Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:20 am

How the hell did that happen? :S

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Post by Jay29 Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:21 am

Got this little extract from Sky Sports:

England's rise is due to the fact that the matches of the World Cup in South Africa last year now count 50% less towards the overall ranking.

Teams that had a strong World Cup but have not had such good results since, such as Uruguay, have experienced a big drop in ranking. Those that did not do so well but have had decent results since then - such as England, Italy and France - have seen a boost in ranking.

I'm sure these rankings will change again after the Copa America.

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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:23 am

I died a bit inside when Mexico went over Argentina, not for long though :coffee:

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:23 am

yeah copa will change alot

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Post by Guiltybystander Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:25 am

Hell yes, Netherlands second.

Btw, how in earth did England even manage to become 6th initially? Is there much weight on qualifier results or something, but even then, they failed at that in the recent past!

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Post by Nishankly Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:52 am

Uruguay not in the top 15?

Haha .. Too easy to reject .. this list..
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Post by Art Morte Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:10 pm

11. Norway Shocked

Some funny ranking this.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:11 pm

Whaaaaat, you don't think England deserves fourth?
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:26 pm

Points are calculated using this forumla:

P = M x I x T x C

Whereby:

P = Points

M = Matchday points (i.e. 3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss)

I = Importance of match (friendly = 1.0, confederation* qualifier = 2.5, confederation tournament = 3.0, World Cup = 4.0) * In this instance confederation refers to the Euros, Copa America, Gold Cup etc.

T = Strength of opposing team (determined using the forumla: 200 - rank* of opposing team) * the most recent ranking

C = Strength of confederation (UEFA/CONMEBAL = 1.0, CONCACAF = 0.88, CAF = 0.86, AFC/OFC = 0.85)

An average number of points is then taken from a nation's results over the last 12 months.

A nation has to play at least 5 games to get the full average. You get 20% less for every game you did not play (i.e. 4 games = 80%, 3 games = 60% etc).

The match average for games older than 12 months old depreciate. After a year after the World Cup, the average will depreciate by 50%. Two years after the world will see the average fall by 30%, and three years after by 20%. Averages older than four years (aka one World Cup cycle) will be nulled.

At this point the average amount of points gained from the 2010 World Cup will have been depreciated by 50%, hence why points gained from recent qualifiers and friendlies are actually worth more, thus the slight discrepencies, if you want to call them that, in the rankings.

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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:38 pm

thanks for that

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Post by pdolson Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:45 pm

it's for the fa's 150th year anniversary

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Post by Abramovich Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:51 pm

How amusing Very Happy
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Post by pdolson Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:55 pm

and why are norway and greece 11th and 12th, fifa suck.

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Post by Jay29 Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:57 pm

pdolson wrote:it's for the fa's 150th year anniversary

and why are norway and greece 11th and 12th, fifa suck.

Evidently you did not see the post about how these ranking are actually calculated.

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Post by M99 Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:13 pm

Is there anyone who actually take the FIFA rankings seriously?
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Post by Freeza Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:27 pm

lol at norway at 11.. that is aweful :coffee:
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Post by adnyana179 Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:29 pm

milanista99 wrote:Is there anyone who actually take the FIFA rankings seriously?

They can make for interesting reading, but no, I don't put a lot of faith in them.
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Post by wigglesworth Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:44 pm

The two historically most successful World Cup teams are 5th and 6th. Interesting how those two teams seem to march lock step in good and bad times.
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Post by Raptorgunner Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:49 pm

I have never believed in FIFA rankings.
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Post by Ali Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:36 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:I died a bit inside when Mexico went over Argentina, not for long though :coffee:

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Post by Batigoal Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:08 pm

*lol this Ranking is BS, because there is no Qualification for the Copa America, so the european Teams have the opportunity to get more points playing euro qualifying games vs the like of san marino, Azerbaijan and luxembourg, this ranking is a joke !!!
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:16 pm

The teams with the flawless qualifying campains are way up, it's obvious. They're usually most accurate right after major tournaments.
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Post by rsinatra Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:20 pm

lmao is this a joke? they get knocked out at the round of 16, we get knocked at the quarter-finals and they're ahead?

not to mention we won the confeds cup, etc, etc?

uruguay are better than england, italy.. italy didnt even get past the group stage at the last wc..

argentina is better too..

well anyway, i guess they have their own stupid point counting system... it so does NOT represent things as they truly are.
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Post by M99 Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:31 pm

rsinatra wrote:lmao is this a joke? they get knocked out at the round of 16, we get knocked at the quarter-finals and they're ahead?

not to mention we won the confeds cup, etc, etc?

uruguay are better than england, italy.. italy didnt even get past the group stage at the last wc..

argentina is better too..

well anyway, i guess they have their own stupid point counting system... it so does NOT represent things as they truly are.

Oh damn, now the shitstorm will begin. I hope to god that Sciacca does not see this.
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