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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:38 pm

Not a fair comment at all. I think Varane is one of the better defender i have seen playing against this barca. He puts many lads to shame with the way he is playin. Kid is ice, it's like he takes less breath than other players on the pitch, sees everything, takes the best decision all the time. we are blessed

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:38 pm

that was my point, if you were responding to me, nick.

he is just a class above all other madrid defenders imo, and it is becoming more and more evident. imagine if madrid had another defender of his calibre.

madrid havent had this solid of a defender in years.

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Post by LeVersacci Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:13 pm

Imagine Varane-T.Silva :whistle:
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Post by Mamad Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:18 pm

In one scene he dribbled like 3 barca players. toward our own goal btw. lol.
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Post by Jack Daniels Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:23 pm

LeDNA wrote:Imagine Varane-T.Silva :whistle:
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Post by RealGunner Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:28 pm

Extremely poor man's Martin Angha
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:50 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:that was my point, if you were responding to me, nick.

he is just a class above all other madrid defenders imo, and it is becoming more and more evident. imagine if madrid had another defender of his calibre.

madrid havent had this solid of a defender in years.

i am saying that he has performed a class above many of the so called world class defenders barca has played against for the past 3 seasons maybe. without thugging

And Thiago Silva paired with Varane would probably be the most unfair partnership i can think of. I can understand why PSG are putting together something to tempt Varane, specially if they also intend to sign Mourinho.

But he is ours Proud, deserves a very nice pay bump.

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Post by The Franchise Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:56 pm

Dont think Varane and Silva are the ideal partnership.

Varane is doing so well now because he never has to get sucked out and can purely sweep up using his speed, reactions and reading of the game.

Thats what Thiago does best too and I wouldnt want to change that.
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Post by Onyx Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:02 pm

He's been our best CB this season. Hopefully his impressive performances continue and he comes a regular.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:07 pm

Actually Silva plays up into the midfield often with PSG to help with the buildup (which is killing PSG right now btw with Silva out... Silva's playmaking). Varane would allow Silva to play even higher if he wanted to. With Alex, Silva had to cheat into the midfield and recover to defend and help Alex lol. With Sakho, he's much better off . With varane, it would be insane.

And who better to teach Varane the ropes than Silva. Varane's game is the blueprint of Milan CBs like Baresi, Nesta and Silva.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:12 pm

Well I cannot speak about PSG, rather Milan post Nesta and more importantly Brazil with Luiz.

And, I wasnt trying to infere that Thiago Silva is incapable of that advanced position, I think he can do anything, hes one of the very best defenders I seen in the last decade.

Rather, what is the most ideal for him individually as a defender.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:18 pm

@The Franchise wrote:Dont think Varane and Silva are the ideal partnership.

Varane is doing so well now because he never has to get sucked out and can purely sweep up using his speed, reactions and reading of the game.

Thats what Thiago does best too and I wouldnt want to change that.

I don't see any weaknesses in Varane's or Thiago's game. Would work perfectly fine.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:20 pm

Its nothing to do with weakness, its about doing what they are best at.

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Post by Don't call me James Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:23 pm

Am I the only that feels Mou won't start Varane against Yanited?? Even though he should be the first name on the team sheet.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:25 pm

@The Franchise wrote:Well I cannot speak about PSG, rather Milan post Nesta and more importantly Brazil with Luiz.

And, I wasnt trying to infere that Thiago Silva is incapable of that advanced position, I think he can do anything, hes one of the very best defenders I seen in the last decade.

Rather, what is the most ideal for him individually as a defender.
As far as what Silva has the most experience in, i completely agree. But he's played the aggressive CB role to perfection at PSG this year after taking a month to adjust to it... yet to see him do it in CL against a top team though. Will probably see him against Valencia and get a good look against more gifted attack.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:27 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Am I the only that feels Mou won't start Varane against Yanited?? Even though he should be the first name on the team sheet.
yeah... you're alone lol. Mou wanted to get Varane and Ramos more familiar with each other prior to Man U. Pepe played in the midfield and has yet to play Cb since he's returned.
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Post by worms Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:54 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Pepe is a better CB than Ramos and still better than Varane and thus a Pepe - Varane partnership would be Madrids best option?

Don't get me wrong Varane has higher potential but I still rate Pepe higher now,he has been a world class CB for years.I think he would perform even better next to a less aggressive/more covering defender like Varane rather than Ramos.

I have always though Ramos and Pepe are too similar to make a consistently solid partnership,
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Post by Die Borussen Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:18 pm

ramos/arbeloa-varane-pepe-coentrao is the best back 4 for me too
well at least until marcelo is 100% fit

anyway im just glad we wont be seeing ramos-pepe partnership weekly cause i got tired of it

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Post by Don't call me James Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:18 am

@sportsczy wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Am I the only that feels Mou won't start Varane against Yanited?? Even though he should be the first name on the team sheet.
yeah... you're alone lol. Mou wanted to get Varane and Ramos more familiar with each other prior to Man U. Pepe played in the midfield and has yet to play Cb since he's returned.

I would've thought Mou would want to rest Varane with the other starters (Ozil, Ronaldo, Alonso,etc) and when he didn't I kind of got worried.
It would be pretty idiotic not to start Varane as he's by far out best defender.
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Post by Don't call me James Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:20 am

@worms wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Pepe is a better CB than Ramos and still better than Varane and thus a Pepe - Varane partnership would be Madrids best option?

Don't get me wrong Varane has higher potential but I still rate Pepe higher now,he has been a world class CB for years.I think he would perform even better next to a less aggressive/more covering defender like Varane rather than Ramos.

I have always though Ramos and Pepe are too similar to make a consistently solid partnership,

I'm sorry but that train has left a long time ago. Varane is miles better than Pepe, even now. Pepe isn't even world class imo.
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Post by SuperMAG Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:32 am

Who ever thinks our backline has been solid the last few months just because of varane, they are wrong, yes he played a huge role in that, but the other player who shown his true form is Coentrao.

Coentrao has been absolute rock solid LB for us the past few months, I have never seen such safe LB the way he has been playing, totally mastered the defensive art of FB.

I think varane needs another partner like varane, not like pepe, ramos or silva.

Remember why Albiol-Varane worked so well and had many clean sheets, it was all because albiol also keeps his position mostly, while has an ideal square area where he attacks.

The backline of Arbeloa-Varane-Albiol-Coentrao were extremely disciplined to the point the attackers had like a moving wall standing between then and the goal.

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Post by Mamad Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:40 am

Am I the only one who thinks Pepe is a better CB than Ramos and still better than Varane and thus a Pepe - Varane partnership would be Madrids best option?

Pepe is mistake prone and hot head. you see some impressive moves from him then he makes a mistake. for example you saw how his stupid aggressiveness cost us a CL semi final against Barca 2 years ago.

Position awareness wise, Varane is better than both of them there is no doubt. and overall he has been better than both this season. but cuz he is young and hasn't played in many big stages there are few things he should learn and that's normal for a CB at this age.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:03 am

coentrao has played all season. yes he has played better the past couple months but hes not the one that has made real madrid's backline so solid recently.

hes a factor, but varane has been cleaning up everyones mistakes left and right its difficult to argue with that watching his play.

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Post by worms Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:09 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
@worms wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Pepe is a better CB than Ramos and still better than Varane and thus a Pepe - Varane partnership would be Madrids best option?

Don't get me wrong Varane has higher potential but I still rate Pepe higher now,he has been a world class CB for years.I think he would perform even better next to a less aggressive/more covering defender like Varane rather than Ramos.

I have always though Ramos and Pepe are too similar to make a consistently solid partnership,

I'm sorry but that train has left a long time ago. Varane is miles better than Pepe, even now. Pepe isn't even world class imo.

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Post by worms Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:13 pm

@Mamad wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Pepe is a better CB than Ramos and still better than Varane and thus a Pepe - Varane partnership would be Madrids best option?

Pepe is mistake prone and hot head. you see some impressive moves from him then he makes a mistake. for example you saw how his stupid aggressiveness cost us a CL semi final against Barca 2 years ago.

Position awareness wise, Varane is better than both of them there is no doubt. and overall he has been better than both this season. but cuz he is young and hasn't played in many big stages there are few things he should learn and that's normal for a CB at this age.

Pepe was playing midfield that game,and be honest he was a beast and we barely created anything until he got sent off.Plus he didn't actually touch Alves,he was a bit unlucky really,the ball was there to be won but he was a bit reckless.

And people are making out that Varane hasn't made mistakes? Pepe might make the odd mistake but at his best he is still your best CB IMO.
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Post by Onyx Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:29 pm

Pepe's haphazard and error prone. He's good at defending, however Varane is better overall and more composed.
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