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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:56 pm

Ramos looks in line though when Evra falls over. It's not like it was a pure 1v1, with no players around. And besides, there needs to be a clearer and zoomed in video to see what Varane actually did.

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Post by The Franchise Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:59 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Ramos looks in line though when Evra falls over. It's not like it was a pure 1v1, with no players around. And besides, there needs to be a clearer and zoomed in video to see what Varane actually did.

In line? Its not an offside decision.

As I said, its obvious Evra gets into the box and gets a shot away before that.

And I seen the replay, its a obvious foul.
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Post by TheRedStag Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:02 pm

Ramos could have teleported between Evra and the goal. So not a red.
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:02 pm

Looking at that video, does Varane get the ball with his left foot?

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Post by free_cat Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:05 pm

Nope, he doesn't sorry Botdric.
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:15 pm

If you look closely, it looks like he got the ball with his left foot.

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Post by free_cat Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:17 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:If you look closely, it looks like he got the ball with his left foot.

In this replay from far away maybe it looks like that, but in close up it is clear he doesn't.

Anyway, barely touching the ball doesn't make a challenge automatically not a foul. (But he doesn't touch it).
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:50 am

Why the f*ck is every one bitching about that challenge? rewind a couple minutes and Jones did the exact flipping same thing to Ozil ffs and no foul was given. If that had been given I would understand if Varane would have been penalized. Consistency is the most important thing for a ref.
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Post by McAgger Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:51 am

This guy is a beast. Truly can't believe he's so young.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:52 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:Why the f*ck is every one bitching about that challenge? rewind a couple minutes and Jones did the exact flipping same thing to Ozil ffs and no foul was given. If that had been given I would understand if Varane would have been penalized. Consistency is the most important thing for a ref.

I don't remember this so you're going to have to jog my memory.....

But was Ozil clean through on goal and was Jones the last man?

Its kinda the reason why people are bitching about it....
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Post by Zealous Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:53 am

Varane wasn't the last man. At least I don't think he was.
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Post by McAgger Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:54 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Why the f*ck is every one bitching about that challenge? rewind a couple minutes and Jones did the exact flipping same thing to Ozil ffs and no foul was given. If that had been given I would understand if Varane would have been penalized. Consistency is the most important thing for a ref.

I don't remember this so you're going to have to jog my memory.....

But was Ozil clean through on goal and was Jones the last man?

Its kinda the reason why people are bitching about it....

Jones push on Di Maria was a penalty. It was never a shoulder challenge, he extended his arm all the way pushing DI Maria five meters away ffs.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:56 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Why the f*ck is every one bitching about that challenge? rewind a couple minutes and Jones did the exact flipping same thing to Ozil ffs and no foul was given. If that had been given I would understand if Varane would have been penalized. Consistency is the most important thing for a ref.

I don't remember this so you're going to have to jog my memory.....

But was Ozil clean through on goal and was Jones the last man?

Its kinda the reason why people are bitching about it....

Well Ozil wasn't going anywhere the whole United defense was back and Ozil was being forced wide. Jones then came across and his legs tangled up with Ozil and they both went down. United regained possession

Doesn't matter if Ozil was not through on goal. A foul at the corner flag is a foul at the half way line mate.

If anything the ref should be more lenient towards .Varane because the game could have been killed.
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Post by Zealous Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:56 am

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Why the f*ck is every one bitching about that challenge? rewind a couple minutes and Jones did the exact flipping same thing to Ozil ffs and no foul was given. If that had been given I would understand if Varane would have been penalized. Consistency is the most important thing for a ref.

I don't remember this so you're going to have to jog my memory.....

But was Ozil clean through on goal and was Jones the last man?

Its kinda the reason why people are bitching about it....

Jones push on Di Maria was a penalty. It was never a shoulder challenge, he extended his arm all the way pushing DI Maria five meters away ffs.

The five meters part was just classic Di Maria. But he was pushed for sure.

Was it a penalty? I've seen them given...
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:59 am

Penalty for that?

You guys...seriously...

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:01 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Why the f*ck is every one bitching about that challenge? rewind a couple minutes and Jones did the exact flipping same thing to Ozil ffs and no foul was given. If that had been given I would understand if Varane would have been penalized. Consistency is the most important thing for a ref.

I don't remember this so you're going to have to jog my memory.....

But was Ozil clean through on goal and was Jones the last man?

Its kinda the reason why people are bitching about it....

Well Ozil wasn't going anywhere the whole United defense was back and Ozil was being forced wide. Jones then came across and his legs tangled up with Ozil and they both went down. United regained possession

Doesn't matter if Ozil was not through on goal. A foul at the corner flag is a foul at the half way line mate.

If anything the ref should be more lenient towards .Varane because the game could have been killed.

It kind of does matter.... because Evra was through on goal and and Varane foul prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.

It wasn't that the foul is bad or anything its just the fact he was the last man and prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.

And should be a free kick and a red card and nothing happened.

If Ozil wasn't clear on goal and Jones wasn't the last man then it shouldn't even be compared.

You are aware of the last man fouling someone to prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity = red card rule yes?
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Post by Zealous Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:02 am

The Franchise wrote:Penalty for that?

You guys...seriously...


All I said was I've seen them given. I'm not saying we were robbed or anything like that ffs
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Post by Onyx Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:03 am

Is it actually clear that it's a foul though? It looks like Varane got a touch with his left foot.

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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:07 am

Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Penalty for that?

You guys...seriously...


All I said was I've seen them given. I'm not saying we were robbed or anything like that ffs

And I seen balls crossed the line and it not be given...its not even worth a mention.

If Di Maria didnt weigh less than a bag of flour with the core strength of a preteen this isnt even a talking point.

Also my comment was directed at penalty claiming it was a pen.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:08 am

Yohan Modric wrote:Is it actually clear that it's a foul though? It looks like Varane got a touch with his left foot.

How many times man Laughing

Refer to freecats answer.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:08 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

I don't remember this so you're going to have to jog my memory.....

But was Ozil clean through on goal and was Jones the last man?

Its kinda the reason why people are bitching about it....

Well Ozil wasn't going anywhere the whole United defense was back and Ozil was being forced wide. Jones then came across and his legs tangled up with Ozil and they both went down. United regained possession

Doesn't matter if Ozil was not through on goal. A foul at the corner flag is a foul at the half way line mate.

If anything the ref should be more lenient towards .Varane because the game could have been killed.

It kind of does matter.... because Evra was through on goal and and Varane foul prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.

It wasn't that the foul is bad or anything its just the fact he was the last man and prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.

And should be a free kick and a red card and nothing happened.

If Ozil wasn't clear on goal and Jones wasn't the last man then it shouldn't even be compared.

You are aware of the last man fouling someone to prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity = red card rule yes?

The circumstance doesn't mean anything. Like I said a foul is a foul not depending on what minute it is, where it is and how much of a goal scoring chance it is. You have to be consistent and the referee was.

The referee didn't give a foul on Ozil and I wouldn't be expecting him to give a foul on Ozil just for being in a "good" position.

You can't look at in what situation Evra was in, but the actual challenge.
I am not saying Varane made a clean challenge, but what he did was pretty much the exact same as Jones's.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:09 am

No one is saying the actual challenge is red card worthy by it self though....

Its the mere fact Evra is through on goal and Varane is the last man is what makes it a red card offense....
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:11 am

The same challange as Jones...are you serious?

Jones and Di Maria went body to body when Di Maria tried to go past him, Di Maria lost, fell down and legs made contact.

Evra was out in front of Varane, already had control over the ball and Varane tripped him.

How are they the same?
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:12 am

Franchise I am talking about another incident.
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Post by buddytaller Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:18 am

Varane with another impressive performance yet again, he made several critical interception and was very strong in the air. He again proved why he's the most inform Real Madrid centre back. It's quite incredible what he's doing at 19, Real Madrid has a centreback for the next decade.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:18 am

Then I apologize. Carry on.
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