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Re: The Wire
Hey don't diss Game of Thrones. It's excellent too. Well until you read the books and realise they leave so much amazing stuff out and then the TV show is a disappointment by comparison.
On topic, the first few episodes have to be slowish to set stuff up, develop characters etc.
On topic, the first few episodes have to be slowish to set stuff up, develop characters etc.
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On topic, the first few episodes have to be slowish to set stuff up, develop characters etc.
Agree completely i honestly prefer it that way.
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This thread reminds me why I quite gaming and movie forums.Every post is "my opinion>yours" oriented
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Ganso wrote:People making fun of Lost and Prison Break season 1 gtfo pls
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Ganso wrote:People making fun of Lost and Prison Break season 1 gtfo pls
Ganso wrote:This thread reminds me why I quite gaming and movie forums.Every post is "my opinion>yours" oriented
anyway i will only do that with Prison Break because its hype is based on 1 season which is wrong IMO.
Otherwise i'll give my opinion of why i feel like it is instead of forcing it down your throat
Anyway i have said everything else in earlier posts lol.
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Never said my posts weren't.Thats exactly why i quit,you cant change opinions.Its a endless circle of this better than that
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The Wire is absolutely in the conversation for the top show of all time - in fact, just about every major critic and member of the industry has come out and said so.
The problem is that you're not going to like it if you're looking for a "cop/gangster" tv show. If you're going in looking for that, you're honestly just not nuanced enough to get why this show is gripping.
The Wire is one of the best executed social commentaries ever made in fiction. It is not only incredibly put together, from the writing, acting and directing, but is a more poignant critique of the world we live in than just about anything out there. Even lauded books like 1984 were working with a dystopian story to comment on a trend; The Wire immerses you in the culture that actually exists in the present, with all of its hardships and problems.
The fact that it is able to be so real while simultaneously providing such a long list of intriguing and lovable characters goes beyond incredible.
Also, while I liked Firefly, the first half of that show's 1 season was a campier version of the old Star Trek. Th acting and writing were so full of ham you could make an epic meal time episode out of it. The opening credit sequence alone knocks it out of the conversation we're having here.
The problem is that you're not going to like it if you're looking for a "cop/gangster" tv show. If you're going in looking for that, you're honestly just not nuanced enough to get why this show is gripping.
The Wire is one of the best executed social commentaries ever made in fiction. It is not only incredibly put together, from the writing, acting and directing, but is a more poignant critique of the world we live in than just about anything out there. Even lauded books like 1984 were working with a dystopian story to comment on a trend; The Wire immerses you in the culture that actually exists in the present, with all of its hardships and problems.
The fact that it is able to be so real while simultaneously providing such a long list of intriguing and lovable characters goes beyond incredible.
Also, while I liked Firefly, the first half of that show's 1 season was a campier version of the old Star Trek. Th acting and writing were so full of ham you could make an epic meal time episode out of it. The opening credit sequence alone knocks it out of the conversation we're having here.
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I have the entire series with me, but haven't been watching it because of time constraints. I have watched the pilot and I understand why some of the posters doesn't like it. It all comes to the taste. People who prefer shows like 'Lost' and 'BrBa' (which are great, you-are-on-the-edge-of-your-seat-shows) finds it difficult to watch this.
If this show is, as some put it, even better than 'The Sopranos', then i am going to watch it. For me, 'The sopranos' beats the shit out of all the others when it comes to realism.
If this show is, as some put it, even better than 'The Sopranos', then i am going to watch it. For me, 'The sopranos' beats the shit out of all the others when it comes to realism.
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You come at the King, you best not miss
Thats right up there with "The Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep"
Omar
Thats right up there with "The Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep"
Omar
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A decade late agree with you though
theres no way you watched the wire in 2002 negrito tbf
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Robert F. Chew, who played Proposition Joe on 'The Wire,' dead at 52.
Robert F. Chew, a 52-year-old Baltimore actor and teacher who portrayed one of television’s most unforgettable characters as Proposition Joe on HBO’s “The Wire,” died Thursday of apparent heart failure in his sleep at his home in Northeast Baltimore, according to Clarice Chew, his sister.
Mr. Chew, who appeared in “Homicide: Life on the Street” and “The Corner,” as well as “The Wire,” also taught and mentored child and young adult actors at Baltimore’s Arena Players, a troupe he stayed with as his television career blossomed in David Simon HBO series. Through his work at the Arena Players Youth Theatre, he brought new talent to the attention of casting directors and coached the team of young actors who played students in the Baltimore City School system in Season 4 of “The Wire.”
"Robert was not only an exceptional actor, he was an essential part of the film and theater community in Baltimore,” David Simon, creator of ‘The Wire’ said in an email Friday. “He could have gone to New York or Los Angeles and commanded a lot more work, but he loved the city as his home and chose to remain here working. He understood so much about his craft that it was no surprise at all that we would go to him to coach our young actors in season four. He was the conduit through which they internalized their remarkable performances."
In terms of what Mr. Chew brought to Proposition Joe, Simon said: "The Wire cast was an embarrassment of riches and it was easy, I think, for outsiders to overlook some of those who were so essential as supporting players. Robert's depiction of Proposition Joe was so fixed and complete -- from the very earliest scenes -- that the writers took for granted that anything we sent him would be finely executed.”
Pointing to a scene that indicates the range of talents Chew brought to the production, Simon said, "Late in the run, almost as a tip of the hat to the work that Robert had done for us, I wrote up a scene in which Proposition Joe -- in order to determine whether someone was a police officer trying to infiltrate his drug crew -- gets on a pay phone and in rapid succession imitates four different characters in four different voices. If you remember that scene and Robert's performance, you know everything you'd need to know about how good an actor this man was.”
"And apart from that, he was a fine and generous man," Simon concluded.
Pat Moran, the legendary Baltimore casting director, said, “Robert Chew was an incredible actor as good as any of them that ever stepped on the stage on Broadway or anywhere. This was a great actor, but a greater man.”
“This guy worked with young kids where he taught over at Arena,” Moran said. “That’s where I knew him from before ‘Homicide.’ And he would usher young talent into auditions that people ordinarily wouldn’t get a chance to see. And he would teach and mentor them, and the kids just adored him.”
In a 2006 interview I did with Mr. Chew, he described Proposition Joe, by saying, “If you are thinking of ‘The Wire’ as a western, Joe would be the guy in town who owns all the land…. And he’s trying to make sure he has everything arranged so that the town runs the way he wants it to run – so that it runs for his profit. He’s always calculating that way."
Based in part on a local narcotics figure who was killed in an after-hours club in 1984, the slow-moving, smooth-talking Prop Joe had some of his best moments opposite other great and complicated crime figures on the urban frontier of "The Wire" -- like Omar Little (Michael K. Williams).
One of those scenes from the 2006 season featured Prop Joe, whose last name was Stewart, working his smooth magic on Omar in a barroom meeting.
The language itself was a delight in the mouth of Mr. Chew: "A businessman such as myself does not believe in bad blood with a man such as yourself - it disturbs the sleep," Joe says.
"I bet it do," Omar responds, exhaling smoke in Joe's direction.
"By way of amends," Joe says, ignoring the disrespect and pausing for effect, "a proposition."
By the end of that exchange, as I wrote in that 2006 piece on Mr. Chew, Prop Joe had set Omar on a collison course with Marlo Stanfield (Jamie Hector), an equally cold blooded killer. It was just the kind of conflict from which a clever deal-maker like Joe always seemed to profit.
But the biggest winner was the viewer in getting to savor such a fine and sure-handed performance from the hometown actor playing Joe.
Mr.Chew broke into TV in 1997 with an episode of NBC’s “Homicide.” He continued with Simon on the HBO mini-series, “The Corner,” which premiered in 2000.
An 'exceptional actor' and 'essential part of community,' David Simon says
January 18, 2013|By David Zurawik | The Baltimore Sun
Born in Baltimore, Mr. Chew graduated from Patterson High School and attended Morgan State University where he sang in the school’s world-renown choir. He was working full time in Baltimore area theater since the early 1980s. He continued to teach in the Arena Players Youth Theatre after “The Wire” ended production here in 2007.
“He was a triple threat,” said Catherine Orange, director of Baltimore's Arena Players youth theater. “He could act, he could dance and he could sing. He was an extraordinary teacher and director for us. He believed in our kids and was a task master.”
In 2006, Mr. Chew helped 22 of his students land parts in Simon's landmark series.
“Whenever I had to dig deep and find kids who not only had the talent but the reality and the belief, kids who didn’t look like the ones in a Jello commercial, I called Robert,” Moran said Friday.
“I’ve had calls today from students of his who he continued to mentor and teach into adulthood. He impacted people, lots and lots of people. And I don’t think he knew that," Moran added.
"He was a quiet, shy guy. Prop Joe’s character was the exact opposite of what Robert Chew’s real character was. With a look or a gesture, Prop Joe could be terrifying. But that was just acting. Robert Chew didn’t have a mean bone in his body.”
Funeral services will be held 10:30 a.m. Thursday, Jan. 24 at the Calvin B. Scruggs Funeral Home, 1412 East Preston Street.
In addition to his sister, Clarice, Mr. Chew is survived by his mother, Henrietta; and two sisters, Tonya Chew and Maureen Little. All live in Baltimore.
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RIP Prop Joe.
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Just finished Season 3 #omar #drugz
Incredible incredible TV show...definitely best of all time from what I've seen so far
Incredible incredible TV show...definitely best of all time from what I've seen so far
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GOAT show for me. Amazing characters, brilliant storyline, and unforgettable scenes. This is when HBO was in its prime coming out with shows like The Wire, Sopranos, and Oz
Some of my favourite scenes from Seasons 1 and 3
Some of my favourite scenes from Seasons 1 and 3
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Finished last weekend but forgot to let everyone know...Greatest Show of All-Time.
The writing in some of those scenes in this show is the greatest I have ever seen in a visual performance.
So many incredible quotes and storylines
The writing in some of those scenes in this show is the greatest I have ever seen in a visual performance.
So many incredible quotes and storylines
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Just watched the first season, it's a good show.
Not sure if it's the best of all time, but it's good. The characters are interesting, the dialogues are interesting and it's a realistic portrayal of how crime is run.
To add to the best of all time shows discussion, here is my list
1. Entourage
2. Friends
3. Game of Thrones
4. Breaking Bad
5. Dexter
Not sure if it's the best of all time, but it's good. The characters are interesting, the dialogues are interesting and it's a realistic portrayal of how crime is run.
To add to the best of all time shows discussion, here is my list
1. Entourage
2. Friends
3. Game of Thrones
4. Breaking Bad
5. Dexter
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Personally I think it's not even the best show of its type. The Shield > Having said that I did think it was the best thing ever after I watched the series a few years back. Easily a top 5 show of all time
did you really just include Entourage in a top show of all time list.. sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm telling you you're wrong. I'm a huge Entourage fan but it's not even a top 20 show of the past 10 years.
Se7en wrote:Just watched the first season, it's a good show.
Not sure if it's the best of all time, but it's good. The characters are interesting, the dialogues are interesting and it's a realistic portrayal of how crime is run.
To add to the best of all time shows discussion, here is my list
1. Entourage
2. Friends
3. Game of Thrones
4. Breaking Bad
5. Dexter
did you really just include Entourage in a top show of all time list.. sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm telling you you're wrong. I'm a huge Entourage fan but it's not even a top 20 show of the past 10 years.
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"Nah man it aint like that, the pawns man, in the game...they get capped quick, they be out the game early
...unless they some smart ass pawns"
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...unless they some smart ass pawns"
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Firenze wrote:Personally I think it's not even the best show of its type. The Shield > Having said that I did think it was the best thing ever after I watched the series a few years back. Easily a top 5 show of all timeSe7en wrote:Just watched the first season, it's a good show.
Not sure if it's the best of all time, but it's good. The characters are interesting, the dialogues are interesting and it's a realistic portrayal of how crime is run.
To add to the best of all time shows discussion, here is my list
1. Entourage
2. Friends
3. Game of Thrones
4. Breaking Bad
5. Dexter
did you really just include Entourage in a top show of all time list.. sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm telling you you're wrong. I'm a huge Entourage fan but it's not even a top 20 show of the past 10 years.
it's a list of the shows i enjoyed the most, i can't be wrong. it's my opinion.............. also be free to list 20 shows better than entourage of the past 10 years, plz
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I was late to get on The Wire bandwagon too. I only finished watching it last summer.
Felt like I knew Baltimore just as much as my hometown when I completed it. It covered every aspect and was gripping and realistic to the core. Great set of characters too.
Omar for me is the GOAT character. The ghetto Robin Hood.
def one of the best series ever made.
Felt like I knew Baltimore just as much as my hometown when I completed it. It covered every aspect and was gripping and realistic to the core. Great set of characters too.
Omar for me is the GOAT character. The ghetto Robin Hood.
def one of the best series ever made.
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I'm at season 4 now
Undoubtedly the best show I've ever seen
can't believe I've slept on this for so long. Omar we share the same name
Undoubtedly the best show I've ever seen
can't believe I've slept on this for so long. Omar we share the same name
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"How my hair look Mike?"
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heartbreaking stuff on to number 13, why does this show have to end
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Greatest show on TV ever
The ending was just perfect for this show, in the end, every generation follows the other. Feels like it was the point of the show all the time, just how this shit wont end becouse the systems we grow up in is the *bleep* up reason
The ending was just perfect for this show, in the end, every generation follows the other. Feels like it was the point of the show all the time, just how this shit wont end becouse the systems we grow up in is the *bleep* up reason
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