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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:15 pm

Yoann Gourcuff of Lyon makes 6.8 mil Euros a year lol.
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:17 pm

Well deserved when he signed the contract. Was one of the best AMs in the world.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:18 pm

He is coming back to that level.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:19 pm

He keeps getting injured as soon as you see signs of form.... he's lost a lot of pace though and he didn't have a ton to begin with.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:20 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Well deserved when he signed the contract. Was one of the best AMs in the world.

rofl this guy is like Balotelli, people will never accept he's garbage.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:22 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Well deserved when he signed the contract. Was one of the best AMs in the world.

rofl this guy is like Balotelli, people will never accept he's garbage.

Unlike Balo, he had 2 productive years:
- 16 goals and 16 assists in 2008-2009
- 9 goals and 10 assists in 2009-2010
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:23 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Well deserved when he signed the contract. Was one of the best AMs in the world.

rofl this guy is like Balotelli, people will never accept he's garbage.

Razz , he is a good player when he is not under pressure but Top level s about Pressure
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:23 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Well deserved when he signed the contract. Was one of the best AMs in the world.

rofl this guy is like Balotelli, people will never accept he's garbage.

I take it you have never seen him play.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:24 pm

At no stage in his career did he ever reach a 6.8 mil level. Not ever.
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:25 pm

He raped Ligue 1 and CL for two seasons. Was absolutely devastating. Dat pure hate that's reeking in this thread.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:26 pm

It's hard to believe that guy still has fans.

And yes I'm talking about you RG. :coffee:
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:27 pm

Yeah. That run Bordeaux made to CL semis was all on his shoulders. He absolutely bossed... which is why every France NT coach keeps an eye on him. There just aren't that many players that can reach that level.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:28 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:He raped Ligue 1 and CL for two seasons. Was absolutely devastating. Dat pure hate that's reeking in this thread.

If what he did was rape, then El Sharaawy is absolutely defiling Serie A (which is he is not doing). The guy in your avatar is twice as good as him and don't earn half of what he earns.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:30 pm

I have seen him play many times but he has never at any stage been a WC AM and everytime he has a good couple of games you see " GOURCUFF IS BACK!111!!!!!1!11" NEW ZIDANE!!!11!!!!!"

In reality he isn't that good, unfortunately people still hold hope that his early potential can be reached when in reality it never will.....

He's not the only one either, every time a talented kid comes around and they struggle to maintain whats expected of them people hold cling to the hope of his early potential.

Especially when he has a few good games, its also known as the Ronaldinho effect.

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Post by RealGunner Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:33 pm

Say what you want

Before his massive injury he was easily top 5 AM in the Europe. The only player who genuinely deserved the next Zidane tag.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:35 pm

tbh Mole, he want on a 6 game role this season where he actually looked like his old self almost... very encouraging. In fact, DD almost called him up for the Spain game as a result. But he got injured. It's not that he hasn't recovered form from his youth at all. He's showing signs. He just needs to stay healthy.

Ronaldinho partied himself to oblivion... no such issue for Yoann. His problem is injuries and then he lost confidence. I have hope for him just as i did for RVP.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:35 pm

His problems are not injury, it's an awful work ethic. And he's not like Tevez that he can still be class without it.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:36 pm

Work ethic???? dude, you must not speak of things you do not know. That has never been his issue. It's all injuries and then confidence.
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Post by Pedram Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:36 pm

Moving to Lyon was a mistake.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:39 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:His problems are not injury, it's an awful work ethic. And he's not like Tevez that he can still be class without it.

Indeed, it is well documented how poor he trains. A diva if I ever saw one.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:39 pm

Pedram wrote:Moving to Lyon was a mistake.

Moving to Lyon under Claude Puel was a mistake. Garde is bringing the best out of him now
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:42 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:His problems are not injury, it's an awful work ethic. And he's not like Tevez that he can still be class without it.

Indeed, it is well documented how poor he trains. A diva if I ever saw one.

That was in Milan when he was 20... and that was mostly fabricated by Milan so somebody wouldn't steal him away lol. Thankfully, his father called Milan's bs, forced them into a move and brought his son to Bordeaux. There hasn't been one second since he arrived at Bordeaux when he was 20 that his work ethic was brought into question... not once.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:42 pm

Fanboyism in full effect :bow:

Its ok though RG, we all are oblivious to some player and refuse to except the reality :coffee:

Also Sports what i meant by the Ronaldinho effect is playing a few good games every now and again and people refusing to accept he will never be the same.

Kaka had this for a while too, Pato also.

It always takes people a long time to accept things like Gourcuff, Balotelli is starting to go through a similar phase, people are not willing to accept he's not actually that good.

Nostalgia has a funny effect on the brain.

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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:45 pm

How can you compare Balo, who has never been injured, to Gourcuff, who has suffered injury after injury. I mean seriously. At least compare generally similar circumstances...
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:46 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:His problems are not injury, it's an awful work ethic. And he's not like Tevez that he can still be class without it.

Indeed, it is well documented how poor he trains. A diva if I ever saw one.

That was in Milan when he was 20... and that was mostly fabricated by Milan so somebody wouldn't steal him away lol. Thankfully, his father called Milan's bs, forced them into a move and brought his son to Bordeaux. There hasn't been one second since he arrived at Bordeaux when he was 20 that his work ethic was brought into question... not once.

It wasn't just BS, he was always lethargic when selected, and he acted like a diva when he was not selected as well. Got into spats with the players and generally acted like he was Zidane incarcerated. Several players were in non-speaking terms with him. He still pouts when his team is losing, and generally has a lazy attitude.

Injuries of course have a lot to do with it, but perhaps he is just not good enough, and perhaps he is not working his socks off to get better.
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