Suarez- Top 10 player in the world

id say top 20 although there are a lot of players out there and its quite difficult to create a definite list

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:I bet it won't be different for Suarez who the opposition is, he's raped United, Chelsea, and Arsenal in England.

Apart from his debut against United when has this happened?

Scoring =/= raped btw and he was very well marshalled against Arsenal this season and i don't remember him raping Chelsea and Yanited either....

Liverpool 3-1 United.....Absolutely rapes united
Liverpool 4-1 Chelsea....Public rape by Suarez
Arsenal 0-2 Liverpool (11-12)....Rape by Suarez
Liverpool 3-0 City (10-11 where Carroll scored the double)....Another Suarez rape

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Arsenal 0-2 Liverpool (11-12)....Rape by Suarez

Not to rain on the parade, but this was our last EPL game before our 8-2 loss to Man Utd. We were on terrible form and were missing many players, and since this time Bossielny has kept Suarez in his back pocket very well each time we face you guys.

I'm going to join the chorus of top 10 forward but not top 10 overall.

Forza Rossoneri wrote:Not a top 10 player, maybe a top 10 striker. Although, there are still many other strikers out there I would rather have who get less hype - Klose, for instance. I'd take him over Suarez any day.

Why would you take Miroslav Klose ahead of Luis Suarez "any day"?

Arsenal 0-2 Liverpool (11-12)....Rape by Suarez

He was on the bench mate. came late on and scored against a 10 men Arsenal against Miquel playing CB

Eman wrote:

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Arsenal 0-2 Liverpool (11-12)....Rape by Suarez

Not to rain on the parade, but this was our last EPL game before our 8-2 loss to Man Utd. We were on terrible form and were missing many players, and since this time Bossielny has kept Suarez in his back pocket very well each time we face you guys.

I'm going to join the chorus of top 10 forward but not top 10 overall.

Doesn't change the fact that Suarez was unplayable against Arsenal that day. I remember how bad of a form Arsenal were at that time but all I'm trying to prove here is Suarez raping Arsenal and he did that day. And you can't disagree with me. I'm not talking about any other match but that one.

RealGunner wrote:

Arsenal 0-2 Liverpool (11-12)....Rape by Suarez

He was on the bench mate. came late on and scored against a 10 men Arsenal against Miquel playing CB

Exactly he raped Arsenal in 19 minutes. Imagine if he had started the game

Messi, Ronaldo, Falcao, RVP, Ibra, Surarez, Rooney etc... Atm I believe he is a top 15, definately top 20

peerIess wrote:

Forza Rossoneri wrote:Not a top 10 player, maybe a top 10 striker. Although, there are still many other strikers out there I would rather have who get less hype - Klose, for instance. I'd take him over Suarez any day.

Why would you take Miroslav Klose ahead of Luis Suarez "any day"?

Klose is proven at NT level, proven in two top leagues, he's accurate (has an amazing shot/goal ratio: a goal every 2.7 shots in Serie A this season), he's classy, he's consistent, he's a leader, he's experienced, he's disciplined and he has a better personality.

That doesn't mean that I'm saying Klose is better than Suarez, it's just my personal preference.

Forza Rossoneri wrote:

peerIess wrote:

Forza Rossoneri wrote:Not a top 10 player, maybe a top 10 striker. Although, there are still many other strikers out there I would rather have who get less hype - Klose, for instance. I'd take him over Suarez any day.

Why would you take Miroslav Klose ahead of Luis Suarez "any day"?

Klose is proven at NT level, proven in two top leagues, he's accurate (has an amazing shot/goal ratio: a goal every 2.7 shots in Serie A this season), he's classy, he's consistent, he's a leader, he's experienced, he's disciplined and he has a better personality.

That doesn't mean that I'm saying Klose is better than Suarez, it's just my personal preference.

Uruguay won Copa America and semi finalists in the WC in which Surarez was an important player in both these campaigns (though Forlan mostly the headlines...)

Top 10 forward for sure and top 3-5 player in the league I reckon.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Don't think he is tbh.....

He's class but the best players in the world are better tactically and smarter than he is.

He's going to have to do a bit more ( preferably at CL level) than feast on the likes of Sunderland and QPR.

INB4 MOLE IS A JEALOUS HATER WHO IS BLINDED BY HIS OWN HATE.

Lol, He has one of the best footballing brains around.
How can you not call him smart when half of the things he does are out of the world and excellently executed. His creativity is amazing and he showed that today as well, the first time ball to Sterling for the goal.

He is a very selfish but a very smart player.

The Sanchez wrote:

Forza Rossoneri wrote:

peerIess wrote:

Why would you take Miroslav Klose ahead of Luis Suarez "any day"?

Klose is proven at NT level, proven in two top leagues, he's accurate (has an amazing shot/goal ratio: a goal every 2.7 shots in Serie A this season), he's classy, he's consistent, he's a leader, he's experienced, he's disciplined and he has a better personality.

That doesn't mean that I'm saying Klose is better than Suarez, it's just my personal preference.

Uruguay won Copa America and semi finalists in the WC in which Surarez was an important player in both these campaigns (though Forlan mostly the headlines...)

Suarez was the best player of the Copa America tournament ahead of Messi, Forlan, and Neymar.

And his absence was the main reason they lost to Holland in the semis. Also his handball against Ghana was the reason they went to semis in the first place. Also his brace in the Round of 16 was the main reason they went to the quarterfinals. Forlan carried Uruguay in the group stages but after tah the catalyst was Suarez imo.

Nishank wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Don't think he is tbh.....

He's class but the best players in the world are better tactically and smarter than he is.

He's going to have to do a bit more ( preferably at CL level) than feast on the likes of Sunderland and QPR.

INB4 MOLE IS A JEALOUS HATER WHO IS BLINDED BY HIS OWN HATE.

Lol, He has one of the best footballing brains around.
How can you not call him smart when half of the things he does are out of the world and excellently executed. His creativity is amazing and he showed that today as well, the first time ball to Sterling for the goal.

He is a very selfish but a very smart player.

This. And the only possible argument against Suarez is his finishing which he has improved drastically this season. I don't know why the haters keep clinging on to the nonexistent negatives.

Messi - 35 goals
Ronaldo - 23 goals
Cavani - 22 goals
Falcao - 20 goals
Ibrahimovic - 20 goals
RVP - 19 goals
Suarez - 18 goals

He's keeping pace with the best of the best.

Also let me remind you he is not a target man, Yeah?
As you were.

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

The Sanchez wrote:

Forza Rossoneri wrote:
Klose is proven at NT level, proven in two top leagues, he's accurate (has an amazing shot/goal ratio: a goal every 2.7 shots in Serie A this season), he's classy, he's consistent, he's a leader, he's experienced, he's disciplined and he has a better personality.

That doesn't mean that I'm saying Klose is better than Suarez, it's just my personal preference.

Uruguay won Copa America and semi finalists in the WC in which Surarez was an important player in both these campaigns (though Forlan mostly the headlines...)

Suarez was the best player of the Copa America tournament ahead of Messi, Forlan, and Neymar.

And his absence was the main reason they lost to Holland in the semis. Also his handball against Ghana was the reason they went to semis in the first place. Also his brace in the Round of 16 was the main reason they went to the quarterfinals. Forlan carried Uruguay in the group stages but after tah the catalyst was Suarez imo.

Ok, but I'm not saying that Suarez isn't NT proven.

Also, I dispute that his handball got Uruguay to the semis. He could've easily stopped that without using his hands. The subsequent missing of the penalty that Suarez unnecessarily gave away is what really helped Uruguay go through to the semis. Furthermore, if he had not used his hands, he would have been able to play the next game. From my perspective, that handball v Ghana was a stupid mistake from Suarez, not something to be praised.

you can't possibly be serious. I'll just act like I didn't read that.

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

Nishank wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Don't think he is tbh.....

He's class but the best players in the world are better tactically and smarter than he is.

He's going to have to do a bit more ( preferably at CL level) than feast on the likes of Sunderland and QPR.

INB4 MOLE IS A JEALOUS HATER WHO IS BLINDED BY HIS OWN HATE.

Lol, He has one of the best footballing brains around.
How can you not call him smart when half of the things he does are out of the world and excellently executed. His creativity is amazing and he showed that today as well, the first time ball to Sterling for the goal.

He is a very selfish but a very smart player.

This. And the only possible argument against Suarez is his finishing which he has improved drastically this season. I don't know why the haters keep clinging on to the nonexistent negatives.

Messi - 35 goals
Ronaldo - 23 goals
Cavani - 22 goals
Falcao - 20 goals
Ibrahimovic - 20 goals
RVP - 19 goals
Suarez - 18 goals

He's keeping pace with the best of the best.

go look at suarez shots to goals ratio....I bet he takes more shots then half that list

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

Nishank wrote:

Lol, He has one of the best footballing brains around.
How can you not call him smart when half of the things he does are out of the world and excellently executed. His creativity is amazing and he showed that today as well, the first time ball to Sterling for the goal.

He is a very selfish but a very smart player.

This. And the only possible argument against Suarez is his finishing which he has improved drastically this season. I don't know why the haters keep clinging on to the nonexistent negatives.

Messi - 35 goals
Ronaldo - 23 goals
Cavani - 22 goals
Falcao - 20 goals
Ibrahimovic - 20 goals
RVP - 19 goals
Suarez - 18 goals

He's keeping pace with the best of the best.

go look at suarez shots to goals ratio....I bet he takes more shots then half that list

Lets not forget all those chances he creates for himself, Something rarely most of the players mentioned above could do.

We have been through this path time and time again, So through the thread Red[united fan] made.

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote: you can't possibly be serious. I'll just act like I didn't read that.

No, please, present a sophisticated and intelligent response instead.

Honestly, I think he could've saved it using his head instead. He really didn't have to palm it away. His hands are almost in front of his head when he saves it. Suarez was just lucky the whole scenario worked out the way it did. In any case, I can't see how that handball was a good thing. It was the very reason why he missed the next match.

B-Mac MUFC wrote:go look at suarez shots to goals ratio....I bet he takes more shots then half that list

The only player on that list with more attempted shots than Luis Suarez is Cristiano Ronaldo.

yeah and he doesn't have teammates like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Benzema, Ozil, Di Maria, Rooney, Lavezzi, Arda, Hamsik to share the burden of the team with. So he has to take on himself to carry the team. Have you seen us play without Suarez? We're absolutely pathetic.

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:yeah and he doesn't have teammates like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Benzema, Ozil, Di Maria, Rooney, Lavezzi, Arda, Hamsik to share the burden of the team with. So he has to take on himself to carry the team. Have you seen us play without Suarez? We're absolutely pathetic.

He has a 32 year old Gerrard.
But no, he is past it and should retire as most of GL says.

Nishank wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

This. And the only possible argument against Suarez is his finishing which he has improved drastically this season. I don't know why the haters keep clinging on to the nonexistent negatives.

Messi - 35 goals
Ronaldo - 23 goals
Cavani - 22 goals
Falcao - 20 goals
Ibrahimovic - 20 goals
RVP - 19 goals
Suarez - 18 goals

He's keeping pace with the best of the best.

go look at suarez shots to goals ratio....I bet he takes more shots then half that list

Lets not forget all those chances he creates for himself, Something rarely most of the players mentioned above could do.

Chances Created
Luis Suarez - 2.8 per match
Robin van Persie - 1.9 per match
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - 2.1 per match
Radamel Falcao - 1 per match
Edinson Cavani - 1.1 per match
Cristiano Ronaldo - 1.6 per match
Lionel Messi - 1.4 per match

peerIess wrote:

Nishank wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

go look at suarez shots to goals ratio....I bet he takes more shots then half that list

Lets not forget all those chances he creates for himself, Something rarely most of the players mentioned above could do.

Chances Created
Luis Suarez - 2.8 per match
Robin van Persie - 1.9 per match
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - 2.1 per match
Radamel Falcao - 1 per match
Edinson Cavani - 1.1 per match
Cristiano Ronaldo - 1.6 per match
Lionel Messi - 1.4 per match

Dem stats

Forza Rossoneri wrote:

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote: you can't possibly be serious. I'll just act like I didn't read that.

No, please, present a sophisticated and intelligent response instead.

Honestly, I think he could've saved it using his head instead. He really didn't have to palm it away. His hands are almost in front of his head when he saves it. Suarez was just lucky the whole scenario worked out the way it did. In any case, I can't see how that handball was a good thing. It was the very reason why he missed the next match.

But you have to understand without the handball his team wouldn't even be in the semis. There was no way to save it with his head. The ball was already at the goal-line for him to head it. If you watch the replay in slo-mo, the ball is at the goal-line to his right and his head is a foot away at that instance. No way could he have saved it with his head.

The second part about the handball being stupid is atrocious, he sacrificed himself for the team but we should blame him because he missed the next game.