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Post by The Franchise Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:42 pm

messixaviesta wrote:Can anyone explain to me why Jeffren would refuse a move to Udinese Calcio but accept one to Sporting Lisbon?


I could understand that.

Sporting have a big project going, get some very interesting signings. They trying to recreate the 3 team battle that Portugal used to have.

But also, he is more likely to play at Sporting then Udinese and I think Portugal and that league suits him as a player and a person better then Italy and Serie A.

Good choice IMO.

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Post by The Franchise Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:45 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I just remembered we still have Milito........why is that? lol

Get him out.

No one want's him , sort of how like i went out tonight and got all the chicks( or the good ones Very Happy ) and my mate got nothing( no one wanted him Laughing )

Thinking of starting to call him Gabriel Milito, but anyway i digress sign Vertonghen he's quality enough to add some real depth and come in for Puyol when he need's resting or is injured. But not outstanding that he will prevent the youth cb's getting no chance of impressing and being sold on.

HAHA Quality stuff.

But yeah, I understand no one wants him. But I would have no problems us just releasing him for nothing, paying his contract and that is that.

I honestly would rather have Henrique then him.

As for new signings though, I dont know about Vertonghen. He sounds the real deal and I think wouldnt cost too much either.

I know he is quite slow though, I would really like a defender with some speed.

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Post by Khaled Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:17 am

Sport reporting Barca will pay 29mil+6 mil euros in varibles for Cesc. Another 5mil will be paid by Cesc himselff, so total 40 mill euros.
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Post by shinigami99 Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:06 am

Wow...He really wants out of Arsenal...taking the Mascherano route and all....hopefully he becomes as useful to us as the machete(but I'm pretty sure he will Very Happy)
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Post by messixaviesta Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:03 am

alfred and dani, thanks for the replies.

alfred, your comments about Udinese are spot on and sad as well.

dani, I am not sure what all signings you mean but Diego Capel was one really good one. The fellow was not getting any minutes at Sevilla and he has shown enough talent in the past to suggest he should be playing regularly. I too would like to see Sporting Lisbon become strong again. So if it becomes Capel on one wing and Jeffren on the other, it may be really worth watching.


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Post by Khaled Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:53 pm

Transfer Rumours:

- The transfer of Jeffren (23) to Portuguese club Sporting could be announced in the coming days. He will sign a 5-year contract. [a bola]

- Arsenal's 40M asking fee for Cesc Fabregas could be met through 29M fixed+6M variables+5M from Cesc taking a 1M pay cut for 5 years [sport]
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Post by The Franchise Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:51 pm

messixaviesta wrote:alfred and dani, thanks for the replies.

alfred, your comments about Udinese are spot on and sad as well.

dani, I am not sure what all signings you mean but Diego Capel was one really good one. The fellow was not getting any minutes at Sevilla and he has shown enough talent in the past to suggest he should be playing regularly. I too would like to see Sporting Lisbon become strong again. So if it becomes Capel on one wing and Jeffren on the other, it may be really worth watching.


Well they also signed Atila Turan, a very talented young leftback. They got Onyewu and Rinualdo, Schaars from AZ, Bojinov and Ricky van Wolfswinkel is supposed to be a very good player also.

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Post by Albiceleste Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:53 pm

Cesc is really taking alot of money out of his own pocket.

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Post by windkick Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:13 pm

Jeffren to Sporting? Good move for Sporting, they have been powerful in this transfer market. Wonder if a buy back option is involved
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Post by harhar11 Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:54 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:Cesc is really taking alot of money out of his own pocket.

If I understand correctly, its not exactly "his" money he will just take a paycut. Or am I wrong? scratch

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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:56 pm

He should stay with arsenal one more season. No more trophies, then it will be certain for him to leave
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Post by Albiceleste Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:16 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Cesc is really taking alot of money out of his own pocket.

If I understand correctly, its not exactly "his" money he will just take a paycut. Or am I wrong? scratch
I believe he's taking a paycut and giving 5m to Arsenal for it to go through, like Mascherano did.

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Post by Khaled Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:20 pm

Jeffren's father and agent Efren Suarez has confirmed that the player is willing to join Portuguese club Sporting this summer. Barcelona ask 5M for Spanish-Venezuelan winger Jeffren (23) and want to include a 10M buy-back clause for the coming 2 years. [o jogo]
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Post by Khaled Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:31 pm

Tw Malaquias (agent Keirrison): "I talked with Barcelona and this week we'll have news about Keirrison... 'Leaving Brazil'." [@m_malaquias]

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Pending officialization by Barcelona, there's a principal agreement on the transfer of Jeffren (23) to Portuguese club Sporting. Sporting will pay less than 5M for Jeffren, who will sign a 5-year contract at his new club. A buy-back clause will be included. [record]
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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:08 pm

On my Twitter I found a lovely image today which shows the jerseys of all twenty of the first team squad players of 2010-11.

The total squad size was only 20.

So out of them we have lost Bojan and gained A.Sanchez. Also Thiago and Fontas have been promoted. Now we have 22 but if we consider Jeffren as almost out we will have 21.

Another point I noticed is that Thiago and Fontas have not been given jersey numbers yet. I would guess if Fabregas doesn't come Thiago will get number 4. If he does come then Thiago will get some higher number. Fontas is probably waiting for departures. G.Milito is possibly on his way to Independiente. So that brings us back to the old squad size of 20. It seems likely that Fontas will get that jersey - number 18. Maxwell is now likely to stay especially since our attempts to buy a left back have failed so far and there is no recent news on that front.

Also it seems for the B team we are stopping the chase of both Andrada and Araujo.

Ultimately it seems we are again stuck with the magic number of 20. Guess we just love a small squad no matter how much the risk. Smile


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Post by ChollaVille Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:43 pm

messixaviesta wrote:
Ultimately it seems we are again stuck with the magic number of 20. Guess we just love a small squad no matter how much the risk. Smile

Remember Rosel's "4 in - 4 out"??? 3 players are in (Fontas, Thiago, Sanchez), 3 players are out (Bojan, Jeffren, Milito). If we sign Cesc Keita could be out, if we sign CB Maxwell could be out.

For now.
1. Valdes
2. Alves
3. Pique
4. Thiago (Fabregas???)
5. Puyol
6. Xavi
7. Villa
8. Iniesta
9. Sanchez
10. Messi
11. Jeffren (OUT) - (Pedro???)
12. / (Fontas???)
13. Pinto
14. Mascherano
15. Keita
16. Busquets
17. Pedro
18. Milito (OUT) - (Thiago???)
19. Maxwell
20. Afellay
21. Adriano
22. Abidal
23. /
24. /
25. /
26. Fontas
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Post by Khaled Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:51 pm

Centre-back Gabriel Milito (30) will be allowed to leave Barcelona on a free transfer. He'll choose between Zaragoza and Independiente. [md]
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Post by BarcaKizz Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:59 pm

Khaledbarca wrote:Centre-back Gabriel Milito (30) will be allowed to leave Barcelona on a free transfer. He'll choose between Zaragoza and Independiente. [md]
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Post by ChollaVille Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:59 pm

So...

GK: Valdes - Pinto (2)
DF: Alves, Pique, Puyol, Abial - Adriano, Fontas, Maxwell (7)
MF: Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta - Thiago, Mascherano, Keita (6)
FW: Pedro, Messi, Villa - Sanchez, Afellay (5)

Total 20 players.
Possible IN: Botia, Soriano, Fabregas???
Possible OUT: Keita, Maxwell???

Using B team players: Soriano, Kiko, Keirrison?, Montoya, Bartra, Muniesa, Sergi Roberto, Deulofeu, Sergi Gomez???
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Post by free_cat Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:43 pm

I hope that if we sign Cesc, Keita playing time is drastically reduced. We'll need his time for Thiago and Cesc... so if Pep keeps Keita love, Cesc purchase will be the most stupid ever (this season).
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:46 pm

Won't happen, Keita's role is much too different from Thiago's and Cesc's. He doesn't play because we have none better than Keita, Keita plays because he can bring a boost to that possession stat in games where we need them.
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Post by messixaviesta Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:17 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Won't happen, Keita's role is much too different from Thiago's and Cesc's. He doesn't play because we have none better than Keita, Keita plays because he can bring a boost to that possession stat in games where we need them.

See you are right that he does a useful role at times with his pressing and thus making things more difficult for the opposition. I commend him for the work he does there. However he has often been used as Iniesta's understudy especially in the 2009-10 season. That should not happen any more.

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Post by ChollaVille Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:39 am

So No.11 is free.
Thiago (if we sign cesc)? Pedro? Even Sanchez?
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Post by harhar11 Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:44 am

ChollaVille wrote:So No.11 is free.
Thiago (if we sign cesc)? Pedro? Even Sanchez?

Sanchez has 9

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Post by ChollaVille Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:58 am

harhar11 wrote:
ChollaVille wrote:So No.11 is free.
Thiago (if we sign cesc)? Pedro? Even Sanchez?

Sanchez has 9

It can be changed until 1st september, Yaya was presented with #17 and stardet season with #24.
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Post by sagnik92 Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:41 am

messixaviesta wrote:On my Twitter I found a lovely image today which shows the jerseys of all twenty of the first team squad players of 2010-11.

The total squad size was only 20.

So out of them we have lost Bojan and gained A.Sanchez. Also Thiago and Fontas have been promoted. Now we have 22 but if we consider Jeffren as almost out we will have 21.

Another point I noticed is that Thiago and Fontas have not been given jersey numbers yet. I would guess if Fabregas doesn't come Thiago will get number 4. If he does come then Thiago will get some higher number. Fontas is probably waiting for departures. G.Milito is possibly on his way to Independiente. So that brings us back to the old squad size of 20. It seems likely that Fontas will get that jersey - number 18. Maxwell is now likely to stay especially since our attempts to buy a left back have failed so far and there is no recent news on that front.

Also it seems for the B team we are stopping the chase of both Andrada and Araujo.

Ultimately it seems we are again stuck with the magic number of 20. Guess we just love a small squad no matter how much the risk. Smile


yes but when you look at it we lost bojan who contributed nothing last seaon.sanchez would be much more effective.

we loose nothing in milito.fontas is surely going to be a little better than him.

jeffren was useless and in place of him although they are not similar ,we get a potential star like thiago.

so in short we are not increasing in number but the overall quality has increased with these 3 new additions.

our midfield would be invulnerable with cesc though not needed.

still i am not happy with our defense.i feel we are one short.

in attack we are good enough.
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