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Re: Luisito
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Suarez has officially broken his goal tile in all comps from last season.
He had 17 in all comps.
Now he has 18 goals Half a season.
Do you guys think he can beat Torres' 33?
Torres had a 'Gerrard in Prime', Suarez have a kid and a Down.
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Don't think Suarez will match it tbh. With that said, I do feel he'll be the better player for the club in the long term.
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Well he needs 15 more with almost half a season to go. I just hope BR gives him FA Cup games so he pads his stats.
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Interesting article .
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vladdy wrote:Interesting article .
I just read it before coming here
Yeah, it's a pretty good piece.
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Wait for the shit storm.....
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I'm in two minds about Rodgers going "Suarez's diving will be dealt internally" after Luis admitted to diving in the Stoke game. It sounds a bit hypocrite to me, because we all knew that Suarez goes to ground easily at times and certainly did in that incident against Stoke. Brendan will have seen it and known himself what was the case. I think it's a bit silly to only now go "we will deal with this" as if you realized for the first time that Suarez may sometimes dive.
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I think he was honestly referring to Suarez continually saying/admitting such things to overseas media... but Rodgers left if ambiguous enough for the media to take otherwise (genius if intentional).
We all know Suarez (and 95% of other PL players) dive, and the media know it, and the referees know it, and the players know it... but to come out and admit to specific incidents just makes life that much harder for Suarez and only gives fuel to the fire of hate against him. I doubt Suarez will be given any serious punishment, probably just be told to watch what he says in the future due to the target on his back.
As usual, a mountain out of a molehill... and people lap it up.
We all know Suarez (and 95% of other PL players) dive, and the media know it, and the referees know it, and the players know it... but to come out and admit to specific incidents just makes life that much harder for Suarez and only gives fuel to the fire of hate against him. I doubt Suarez will be given any serious punishment, probably just be told to watch what he says in the future due to the target on his back.
As usual, a mountain out of a molehill... and people lap it up.
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Basically mirroring what I've already said:
Brendan Rodgers has decided that speaking out may be the best way to remind Luis Suárez of his responsibilities to the club, Oliver Kay writes
We are so unaccustomed these days to the sound of a manager rebuking his star player that our immediate reaction is to assume there is an agenda at work. Was Brendan Rodgers somehow preparing the ground yesterday for the eventual sale of Luis Suárez? Or was it an attempt to draw a line and persuade referees that any past preconceptions of the Liverpool forward need no longer apply?
None of the conspiracy theories seems appealing — neither does the idea that Rodgers, who has a far better grasp of the media than most, said it without thinking of the headlines that would follow the slightest criticism of Suárez — so we are left with a more straightforward explanation: that the Liverpool manager simply felt that, for the good of the club, he needed to condemn the off-hand manner in which his player spoke of diving “because we were drawing against Stoke at home and we needed anything to win it”.
Rodgers suggested at his weekly press conference yesterday that Suárez’s comments were “unacceptable” and would be “dealt with internally”. This is expected to amount to a conversation, manager to player, and a reminder of responsibilities, rather than a draconian disciplinary process, but perhaps the more relevant quote yesterday was Rodgers’ statement that “there is no one bigger than the club or the club’s image”.
The message to Suárez is about piping down a little and letting his football do the talking. The forward is undoubtedly, as Rodgers put it, “a real topic of conversation, football-wise and media-wise”. Whatever the Liverpool manager’s view of the “bad boy” narrative surrounding Suárez, there is a recognition that the player’s tendency to go off-message, when he speaks to the South American media, is pouring fuel on a fire that is already raging.
For Rodgers to go public in his condemnation of Suárez’s comments was surprising. It adds to that narrative. When Tony Pulis, the Stoke City manager, criticised Suárez after the match in question in October, Rodgers responded with a statement on Liverpool’s official website about the “vilification” of his player. When a furore followed Suárez’s handball goal against Mansfield Town in the FA Cup third round this month, Rodgers again sought to play down the incident, pointing out that the fuss would have been far less had Daniel Sturridge been involved in a similar incident.
So we are left to conclude that Rodgers has said this because, whatever his feelings about the “vilification” of Suárez, he feels that the player does not help himself — or his club. The obvious conclusion, one that is not discouraged inside Anfield, is that Rodgers has said this publicly because it has not got through privately.
Rodgers evidently feels that the noise surrounding Suárez is having a negative effect on Liverpool. Unlike last term, when there was the racial abuse case and its unedifying fallout, this season’s controversies have been outweighed by outstanding performances on the pitch — the same cannot be said of Mario Balotelli, for example — but the balance is still not what Liverpool would like.
Rodgers tried to position himself and Liverpool on the moral high ground yesterday. It is new ground for the club where Suárez is concerned. The question that arose, when Rodgers spoke about the value of Liverpool’s “ethics”, is why there was no condemnation when Suárez threw himself to the ground in such a desperate, almost comical manner against Stoke in October.
At the time, there were stern words in private but a protective arm in public — the Ferguson method, if we can call it that. The temptation is to state that Sir Alex Ferguson would never admonish one of his players publicly — unless, of course, there is an obvious agenda for doing so, as there was by the end with Ruud van Nistelrooy, for instance. But it would not be true.
Ferguson has also been issued public criticisms for diving — notably with Ashley Young last season and with Cristiano Ronaldo in the past when there was a Suárez-like hysteria concerning the Portugal forward’s penalty-box antics.
With Ronaldo, who always had the feeling that Manchester was dreary and that he deserved more respect than English football gave him on and off the pitch, there was always the feeling that criticism might hasten his departure to Real Madrid. But he went to Spain at the right time, when Real were re-emerging as a force under the presidency of Florentino Pérez, having grown during his years at United.
Just as it was clear that Ronaldo would not spend his career at Old Trafford, there is the same feeling with Suárez on Merseyside — and this would perhaps still be the case if Liverpool were a leading force in the Champions League, never mind in the early stages of a rebuilding project.
Suárez will not be short of offers if the time comes to look beyond Liverpool; Manchester City’s interest is already known, while nobody should be surprised if he appears on the radar of Bayern Munich, whose next coach, Pep Guardiola, happens to be the brother of the forward’s agent.
Rodgers’s statements yesterday were not about preparing the ground for a sale. They were designed to remind his player and everyone else, both for the short term and the long, that Liverpool Football Club does not begin and end with Luis Suárez.
http://lfcts.tumblr.com/post/40791427871/oliver-kay-on-the-times-rodgers-has-decided-that
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Gerrard on Luis:
I knew Suarez could speak English
Hopefully we can keep him for a long time. He seems settled. He loves the club. He's a real family man. His English is good - I think he kids on the press that his English is bad so he doesn't have to do interviews all the time!
I knew Suarez could speak English
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AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHH what a find Messiah
Luis
Luis
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88 appearances, 44 goals, 22 assists in all competitions.
What a beautiful stat line that is
What a beautiful stat line that is
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Does anyone have a gif of his celebration after his second?
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ynwa wrote:Does anyone have a gif of his celebration after his second?
Been looking for that too. He was so passionate in it, shows you that he really loves the club.
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I can definitely see him being a red next season. The amount of passion he has for the club is up there with the likes of Jamie and Stevie.
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Of course he'll be a red next season. Why the hell would we ever sell him, especially since he just said a couple of weeks ago that he will stay with us even if we don't make CL.
Also do you guys think he'll break Torres' 33 goal tally from 07-08??
He needs 8 more and we have 11 more games (Possible 10 for Luis because he's only 2 yellows away from another suspension).
Also do you guys think he'll break Torres' 33 goal tally from 07-08??
He needs 8 more and we have 11 more games (Possible 10 for Luis because he's only 2 yellows away from another suspension).
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To be honest, I didn't think he would like I said earlier in this thread. With Sturridge here, he plays with less pressure and is more composed in terms of shooting. He hits the target a lot more if you havn't realised it thus far. I say he'll atleast equal it, especially with Coutinho here.
But he's already done more for the club by helping us get the Carling Cup. It might be considered a "mickey mouse" competition, but at the end of the day, Luis Suarez has silverware with Liverpool. Torres doesn't.
Let's just hope we win more silverware with him.
But he's already done more for the club by helping us get the Carling Cup. It might be considered a "mickey mouse" competition, but at the end of the day, Luis Suarez has silverware with Liverpool. Torres doesn't.
Let's just hope we win more silverware with him.
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I heard on Rawk if he gets two more yellows he will be suspended for 3 games?
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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/luis-the-real-liverpool-is-coming
Honestly if he leaves in the summer(not saying he is) but due to the ridiculous interest that might come our way, It'll be a greater betrayal then Torres.
Anyways in the article he states
"But I think we've turned in some great performances in the league which have shown the real Liverpool that everyone wants to see, which will serve as the basis for what happens next year.
"I think the team is developing nicely, the new signings have settled in well, the manager is happy and I think if we carry on in the same vein we could have a very good season next time around.
All signs indicating he isn't looking to move anytime soon, so that's good news.
Honestly if he leaves in the summer(not saying he is) but due to the ridiculous interest that might come our way, It'll be a greater betrayal then Torres.
Anyways in the article he states
"But I think we've turned in some great performances in the league which have shown the real Liverpool that everyone wants to see, which will serve as the basis for what happens next year.
"I think the team is developing nicely, the new signings have settled in well, the manager is happy and I think if we carry on in the same vein we could have a very good season next time around.
All signs indicating he isn't looking to move anytime soon, so that's good news.
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I am all for he scoring 35+ goals this season!!!
And no point arguing he would leave. . cause he won't
And no point arguing he would leave. . cause he won't
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28 goals, 21 in the league. Needs 6 more to beat Torres' record Needs 4 more to beat Torres' league tally of 24.
What a player we have
What a player we have
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1986-87: Ian Rush 40 goals - 30 league
1988-89: Aldridge 31 goals - 21 league
--------------------First Division >>>Premier League -------------------------------
1994-95: Fowler 31 goals - 25 league
1995-96: Fowler 36 goals - 28 league
2007-08: Torres 33 goals - 24 league
2012-13: Suarez 28 goals - 21 league (so far)
8 more goals and Suarez will be the most prolific LFC goalscorer in a single season in the PL era (and since 1987).
We've got 10 games left. You guys think he can get 8 in 10?
1988-89: Aldridge 31 goals - 21 league
--------------------First Division >>>Premier League -------------------------------
1994-95: Fowler 31 goals - 25 league
1995-96: Fowler 36 goals - 28 league
2007-08: Torres 33 goals - 24 league
2012-13: Suarez 28 goals - 21 league (so far)
8 more goals and Suarez will be the most prolific LFC goalscorer in a single season in the PL era (and since 1987).
We've got 10 games left. You guys think he can get 8 in 10?
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Well that might be a little difficult this season but in coming seasons this is something i believe if he stays then surely either he or Sturridge would get
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I personally think he can easily get 8 in 10 barring suspensions or injuries. Specially if Stevie and Studge leave the penalties to him.
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Gerrard or Carragher if we have a solid lead will have the penalties for the remainder of the season.
He doesn't need the penalties though. I have full confidence for him to get them from open play or from a freekick.
He doesn't need the penalties though. I have full confidence for him to get them from open play or from a freekick.
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