Who was the best youngster across Europe this season ?

Lord Hades wrote:courtois has made quite a few errors though ..

But overall he was quite good. Specially when Atletico was doing bad...

Thiago and by miles...

Hazard .

Thiago !?

No Thiago No Cuenca ?

yes they might not be the best this season.. but they deserve to be in this list !!

I voted for Hazard, great that you didn't put average Thiago on this list. Cuenca on the list?

Mr Nick09 wrote:Mole, how long before Thiago leaves barca?

because barca will return to 3 forwards system. Tito cant take the risks Pep was taking, so Cesc will mostly sub Xavi, and soon Mazinho will realize that his son has no future there

Well, I think of Thiago as a sub for at least 4 more years, so if his father thinks that he will be better off as a starter in Malaga, then free way. I don't buy hype on Thiago, there are a lot of better young players in Europe.

P.S khaled good that you didn't write that Cristian 'I know one move' Tello deserves place in a poll

matpol i can't find words.. i just can't

Surag wrote:I have clearly mentioned in my description,i am talking about players under the age of 22..

Kagawa is 23 ... just like Ozil. Ozil > All.

Thiago has been meh?

He will get more minutes next season considering his play this season. Then you guys will know.

@matpol

Thiago played 44 games (32 Starts, 2943 minutes), 4 goals, 8 assists in all comps. (not great stats (goals+assists) but he was playing deep)..


Barcelona's Stats 2011-12:


¤ Most balls won back (Liga+Copa+UCL 2011/12):
Mascherano 504, Sergio 384, Abidal 338, Alves 333 ,Puyol 306 , Pique 306 , THIAGO 226, Adriano 185, Xavi 134, Kieta 128, Cesc 119, Iniesta 118...
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¤ Most chances created (Liga+Copa+UCL 2011/12):
Messi 135, Xavi 93, Cesc 78, Alves 70, THIAGO 39, Iniesta 39...

Senor Penguin wrote:

Surag wrote:I have clearly mentioned in my description,i am talking about players under the age of 22..

Kagawa is 23 ... just like Ozil. Ozil > All.

:vagi:

Really sorry about that..

And to the Barca fan who's saying Ceunca should be in the list..Please tell me why he deserves to be in the list ahead of all the other mentioned in the list..

I pose a similar question for Patrick Bateman..What makes you think Borini should be in the list ahead of others ?

Now since i made a mistake with Kagawa(its actually unfair cuz for most of the season he was 22 as he turned 23 recently),actually a good case can be made for thiago being in the list..

but Thiago still wont get that many votes apart from a few biased Barca supporters.

What a big mistake i made

Should i exclude Kagawa ,what do the General Audience think ?

Nah you should keep him.

Since he was 22 at the time lol.

Ozil would win this by a land slide anyway...if we included 23's.

That is why i dint want this to be an 23 and under thread .lol..He would run away with the votes.

Oezil is in the elite group for me..but he still has room to grow thats for sure.

No thiago?

Surag wrote:

Senor Penguin wrote:

Surag wrote:I have clearly mentioned in my description,i am talking about players under the age of 22..

Kagawa is 23 ... just like Ozil. Ozil > All.

:vagi:

Really sorry about that..

And to the Barca fan who's saying Ceunca should be in the list..Please tell me why he deserves to be in the list ahead of all the other mentioned in the list..

I pose a similar question for Patrick Bateman..What makes you think Borini should be in the list ahead of others ?

Now since i made a mistake with Kagawa(its actually unfair cuz for most of the season he was 22 as he turned 23 recently),actually a good case can be made for thiago being in the list..

but Thiago still wont get that many votes apart from a few biased Barca supporters.

not including Cuenca is fine with me, not a big deal (although i think he deserves to be in this list)... but not including Thiago

Firstly, i think youngster should not be based only on age.

It should be based on age and experience. Some of those guys have been playing continuously forever. So hardly fair to compare Alaba and Hazard for example.

Khaled wrote:@matpol

Thiago played 44 games (32 Starts, 2943 minutes), 4 goals, 8 assists in all comps. (not great stats (goals+assists) but he was playing deep)..


Barcelona's Stats 2011-12:


¤ Most balls won back (Liga+Copa+UCL 2011/12):
Mascherano 504, Sergio 384, Abidal 338, Alves 333 ,Puyol 306 , Pique 306 , THIAGO 226, Adriano 185, Xavi 134, Kieta 128, Cesc 119, Iniesta 118...
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¤ Most chances created (Liga+Copa+UCL 2011/12):
Messi 135, Xavi 93, Cesc 78, Alves 70, THIAGO 39, Iniesta 39...

I should add that Thiago had one of the Best passing % in europe (92.7% accuracy), he's a CM and this is his most important role...

note: Xavi 92.4%

LOL @ Thiago being taken off the list and if this continues being put back on the list

Anyway everyone who watched Thiago consistently knows how great he's been the lulz at people thinking he's been meh and at him

kiranr wrote:Firstly, i think youngster should not be based only on age.

It should be based on age and experience. Some of those guys have been playing continuously forever. So hardly fair to compare Alaba and Hazard for example.

Fair point..My main purpose to have players in the list with the age of 22 and under cuz i did not want Oezil to run away with the votes..And plus look at my list ,they are by no means fully established young stars,i wanted people to recognize the best of the lot ,they've still got a point to prove or two..

Hazard is a rising star and has enough experience under his belt but he still isnt playing in one of the main leagues and he still is yet to make a huge impact on the world stage which he would do once he joins a top club..I hope Ligue 1 followers take no offense he is still a talent right now with the potential to be a world class player..

This is a fair point though..If this thread was made 3 or 4 years years ago ,i would've excluded Messi or CR off the list cuz they were simply elite at their age..I hope you get my point.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:LOL @ Thiago being taken off the list and if this continues being put back on the list

Anyway everyone who watched Thiago consistently knows how great he's been the lulz at people thinking he's been meh and at him

I am trying my best to make this poll as unbiased and un-ignorant as possible..


Either way so many complaints and reasonable arguments in favor of him has made me reconsider him

Sorry about that.

Surag wrote:

Fair point..My main purpose to have players in the list with the age of 22 and under cuz i did not want Oezil to run away with the votes..And plus look at my list ,they are by no means fully established young stars,i wanted people to recognize the best of the lot ,they've still got a point to prove or two..

Hazard is a rising star and has enough experience under his belt but he still isnt playing in one of the main leagues and he still is yet to make a huge impact on the world stage which he would do once he joins a top club..I hope Ligue 1 followers take no offense he is still a talent right now with the potential to be a world class player..

This is a fair point though..If this thread was made 3 or 4 years years ago ,i would've excluded Messi or CR off the list cuz they were simply elite at their age..I hope you get my point.

Yes, of course. Nevertheless, exciting young players are coming through. I am really looking forward to watching them next season and the Euros.

I dont know why Courtois was included i certainly dint want him in the list has he been that good ?Outshone youngsters like Thiago ?

Iker deserves to be the best I mean he farted all over man united.He is excellent technically and dribbles well.Why the hell would you guys choose kagawa over iker muniain.

Zuess99 wrote:Iker deserves to be the best I mean he farted all over man united.He is excellent technically and dribbles well.Why the hell would you guys choose kagawa over iker muniain.

because a football season doesnt come down to how well you play in two games. Iker wasnt that good in la liga, that's a truth. He still has a lot of growing up to do, his talent is obvious but he didnt perform at Kagawa's level this season.

Jack Daniels wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Didnt vote..but it seems people moaned Thiago off the list..no clue why.

Because he is crap that's why.

Your crap.

The Franchise wrote:

Jack Daniels wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Didnt vote..but it seems people moaned Thiago off the list..no clue why.

Because he is crap that's why.

Your crap.

you are both banned for DOMA