Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
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Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Le Samourai Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:40 pm
I think accepting the term soccer outside of the United States sends the wrong message.I mean, I don't know the particular's but looking back, what was the point of changing the name?
The sport called football in the States is one played predominantly with your arms.
I mean cultural imperialism like this is just baffling, especially when the attempted name change is such ail.
The sport called football in the States is one played predominantly with your arms.
I mean cultural imperialism like this is just baffling, especially when the attempted name change is such ail.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Doc Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:53 pm
Well, it was the English who came up with the name "soccer" so I see no reason to not say it. It sure beats goals being called "Messi like"...
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by LeSwagg James Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:55 pm
No it is not acceptable in my opinion.. Whoever decided to change the name is an idiot.. I heard American football was named football because all games start off with a kick 
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Jay29 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:57 pm
It's a common misconception that "soccer" was invented by the United States - that they changd the name for some reason. That's not true.
Back when the Laws of Football were being written up, football was referred to as Soccer, derived from the term "Association" (the sport is officially called Association Football, after all), because Rugby Football was the most predominant sport in the UK. It was a means of differentiating the two sports.
When football came over to the United States, they used the term "football" but "soccer" caught on. This is as far back as the early 1900's.
Both names for the sport are correct and mean the same thing. The reason why football is used more often is because Rugby isn't refereed to as Rugby Football anymore; it's now Rugby Uninon and Rugby League.
Back when the Laws of Football were being written up, football was referred to as Soccer, derived from the term "Association" (the sport is officially called Association Football, after all), because Rugby Football was the most predominant sport in the UK. It was a means of differentiating the two sports.
When football came over to the United States, they used the term "football" but "soccer" caught on. This is as far back as the early 1900's.
Both names for the sport are correct and mean the same thing. The reason why football is used more often is because Rugby isn't refereed to as Rugby Football anymore; it's now Rugby Uninon and Rugby League.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by RealGunner Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:57 pm
Soccer was the term invented in England by the english people.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by VivaStPauli Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:01 pm
I think it's worth making fun of every couple of months, but other than that, it's not like they actually changed the name, the "association football" origin has been well explained here.
Doesn't change the fact that American Football is a silly, silly game.
Doesn't change the fact that American Football is a silly, silly game.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Blue Barrett Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:01 pm
This.Se7en wrote:
I don't get annoyed by the name but its just a weird feeling, really. Whenever I'm here, I just have to get used to calling it that way just to at least get my point across LOL.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by VivaStPauli Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:02 pm
RealGunner wrote:Soccer was the term invented in England by the english people.
While they were speaking English words in English.
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by Blue Barrett Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:03 pm
Exactly.VivaStPauli wrote:I think it's worth making fun of every couple of months, but other than that, it's not like they actually changed the name, the "association football" origin has been well explained here.
Doesn't change the fact that American Football is a silly, silly game.
And FWIW, so is Rugby(although a bit better
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Adrian0911 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:03 pm
Se7en wrote:
i was about to post this too.
this imagine is my opinion
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by spanky Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:03 pm
its called football because the ball is 1 foot long 
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Jay29 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:06 pm
Even though the name "American Football" isn't quite an accurate description of the sport, the sport itself did derive from Rugby Football. So perhaps that is why it is known as American Football.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Blue Barrett Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 pm
Really? That would be quite stupid.spanky489 wrote:its called football because the ball is 1 foot long
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by VivaStPauli Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 pm
Barrettinator wrote:And FWIW, so is Rugby(although a bit better
Well, while Rugby might have it's flaws, it doesn't mainly consist of commercials, and the players don't think it's necessariy to wear body armour, also I'm pretty sure they're breeding NFL players in some kind of underground dungeon by crossing human beings with buffalo or something, people shouldn't be that f*cking big.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Brady2Moss Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:12 pm
VivaStPauli wrote:.
Doesn't change the fact that American Football is a silly, silly game.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Mr Nick09 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:14 pm
VivaStPauli wrote:I think it's worth making fun of every couple of months, but other than that, it's not like they actually changed the name, the "association football" origin has been well explained here.
Doesn't change the fact that American Football is a silly, silly game.
I am not Am Football expert but i highly disagree with that assessment. It's a different game, but it's just as fun in my opinion when you get into it.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by stevieg8 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:21 pm
I never understood the controversy over this. It's called different things in different places, it's not like football/soccer are the only names around the world. I mean, it's freaking "calcio" in Italian (maybe I'm missing some etymological connection with "foot," but the point still stands) and various other terms in other languages. Unsure why anyone should give a s***, it's still the same game.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Vibe Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:23 pm
stevieg8 wrote:I never understood the controversy over this. It's called different things in different places, it's not like football/soccer are the only names around the world. I mean, it's freaking "calcio" in Italian (maybe I'm missing some etymological connection with "foot," but the point still stands) and various other terms in other languages. Unsure why anyone should give a s***, it's still the same game.
I was about to say you must be American,but then I saw your flag...
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by stevieg8 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:23 pm
Vibe wrote:stevieg8 wrote:I never understood the controversy over this. It's called different things in different places, it's not like football/soccer are the only names around the world. I mean, it's freaking "calcio" in Italian (maybe I'm missing some etymological connection with "foot," but the point still stands) and various other terms in other languages. Unsure why anyone should give a s***, it's still the same game.
I was about to say you must be American,but then I saw your flag...
Yeah, I am. Is it a stereotype of Americans to not get worked up over something as silly as semantics? I missed that one.
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by Guliver90 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:25 pm
stevieg8 wrote:I never understood the controversy over this. It's called different things in different places, it's not like football/soccer are the only names around the world. I mean, it's freaking "calcio" in Italian (maybe I'm missing some etymological connection with "foot," but the point still stands) and various other terms in other languages. Unsure why anyone should give a s***, it's still the same game.
this makes more sense that what i was about to say...
...so i make it my opinion too
and i am no bloody american :lol!:
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Vibe Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:26 pm
stevieg8 wrote:Vibe wrote:stevieg8 wrote:I never understood the controversy over this. It's called different things in different places, it's not like football/soccer are the only names around the world. I mean, it's freaking "calcio" in Italian (maybe I'm missing some etymological connection with "foot," but the point still stands) and various other terms in other languages. Unsure why anyone should give a s***, it's still the same game.
I was about to say you must be American,but then I saw your flag...
Yeah, I am. Is it a stereotype of Americans to not get worked up over something as silly as semantics? I missed that one.
The thing is,in America football is not primary and there are things like baseball and handegg.When a non-footballing country renames your sport of course it isn't gonna sound natural...
Also,in Italy they don't call fishing football,or whatever it is they do over there.
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Re: Is the term "soccer" acceptable?
by Swanhends Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:28 pm
we can name things whatever we want you weird-cheese-eating surrender monkies
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