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Post by Sushi Master Mon May 27, 2013 6:27 pm

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What wages is Gomez on and would Dortmund match them, that's the question.

In my opinion Dortmund are better off signing players who see Dortmund as a step up in their careers anyway.
Gomez is on wages way above Dortmund average.

Although they could easily afford him.

I'm not sure I would like this signing. Lewa's great, but this means Gomez would leave and Gomez is a proven goalscorer anywhere.

Not that Mandzukic is bad... but it's Godmez, man.

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It stinks of a Guardiola signing to me, Lewa to Bayern - which really seems certain now that even his agent has come out and said it - that's what I thought right away. Lewa is good at distributing the ball from the striker position and Pep will like that. Bearing in mind Bayern management's now-a-bit-ridiculous-looking comments that they are not intending to sign the best players from Germany any longer, you can't help but thinking it's been Guardiola who has insisted on buying Lewandowski. Though I could be wrong, obviously.
From Lewa's playing style, yeah, it does have a Guardiola vibe to it. But then again, it's not like it's a huge step up from Mandzukic. The only logical reason I see for Lewa to come would be that Gomez does not want a bench role, Pizarro is leaving and thus we'd be left with only 1 striker. Then it would make complete sence. There's also the bonus of weakening a direct rival, plus he speaks German.

There's also the option of turning Müller into Müller. I don't see this happening under Guardiola, but I hope he's a little more flexible considering the vast array of talent and versatility at his disposal.

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Post by Fuchsteufelswild Tue May 28, 2013 3:56 am

Motogp69 wrote:Still hoping Lewandowski leaves Germany, because I really don't want him at Bayern.

Goetze is Bavarian, so I'm okay with him leaving Dortmund because he's coming to his rightful home, but Lewandowski is the enemy. So, not sure who will be the eventual starter between him and Mandzukic, because they are both clinical finishers with good link up play.

Oh well, enjoy Gomez Chelsea :coffee:

Mandzukic is anything but a clinical finisher. Mandzukic isn't even better Gomez. He just didn't get back in after his injury and Mandzukic fits a little better into the playstyle. Lewandowski is a class above Mandzukic and would be a sure starter.
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Post by Fuchsteufelswild Tue May 28, 2013 3:59 am

Sushi Master wrote:
Art Morte wrote:
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Gomez is on wages way above Dortmund average.

Although they could easily afford him.

I'm not sure I would like this signing. Lewa's great, but this means Gomez would leave and Gomez is a proven goalscorer anywhere.

Not that Mandzukic is bad... but it's Godmez, man.

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It stinks of a Guardiola signing to me, Lewa to Bayern - which really seems certain now that even his agent has come out and said it - that's what I thought right away. Lewa is good at distributing the ball from the striker position and Pep will like that. Bearing in mind Bayern management's now-a-bit-ridiculous-looking comments that they are not intending to sign the best players from Germany any longer, you can't help but thinking it's been Guardiola who has insisted on buying Lewandowski. Though I could be wrong, obviously.
From Lewa's playing style, yeah, it does have a Guardiola vibe to it. But then again, it's not like it's a huge step up from Mandzukic. The only logical reason I see for Lewa to come would be that Gomez does not want a bench role, Pizarro is leaving and thus we'd be left with only 1 striker. Then it would make complete sence. There's also the bonus of weakening a direct rival, plus he speaks German.

There's also the option of turning Müller into Müller. I don't see this happening under Guardiola, but I hope he's a little more flexible considering the vast array of talent and versatility at his disposal.

It's a big step up from Mandzukic actually. He's good but looking at the overall quality of the first team he's the odd one out. Lewandowski is a class above him IMO.
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Post by 3lite Tue May 28, 2013 4:30 am

iftikhar wrote:€37 million for Gotze, €30 million for Lewa! €50 million from CL. That's a lot of money Dortmund got. If they spend this money like they have done in past or go after the players they are rumored to (bar Dzenko), Bayern is in for a shock.

I don't think Lewa is 30M I think they will let him go for like 26M. How much did Bayern get for winning CL?

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Post by LuckAndWin Tue May 28, 2013 9:03 am

Motogp69 wrote:Still hoping Lewandowski leaves Germany, because I really don't want him at Bayern.

Goetze is Bavarian, so I'm okay with him leaving Dortmund because he's coming to his rightful home, but Lewandowski is the enemy. So, not sure who will be the eventual starter between him and Mandzukic, because they are both clinical finishers with good link up play.

Oh well, enjoy Gomez Chelsea :coffee:
You might not want to see the news below even though it wasn't confirmed yet.
Robert Lewandowski set to join Bayern Munich, claims agent

3lite wrote:How much did Bayern get for winning CL?
Based on WIKI
"For the 2010–11 season, Manchester United, who lost the final, earned nearly €53.2 million in total of which €27.3 million was prize money, compared with the €51.0 million earned by Barcelona, who won the tournament and was awarded with €30.7 million of prize money."
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Chelsea earn £47m prize money from Champions League 2011/12 success

So i think Bayern will earn around £50m prize money.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue May 28, 2013 10:09 am

Fuchsteufelswild wrote:Mandzukic is anything but a clinical finisher. Mandzukic isn't even better Gomez. He just didn't get back in after his injury and Mandzukic fits a little better into the playstyle. Lewandowski is a class above Mandzukic and would be a sure starter.

Meh, Lewandowski and Mandzukic are both equally shit finishers. Lewandowski just happens to have a neater technique and better first touch, but from a poacher's perspective, they both suck at finishing. Not that they're particularly bad, but if you want to see proper finishing, look at Gomez, the Hunter, Kießling etc. - those guys need way less chances to score.
That freak accident in the Dortmund-Real match aside. That was a perfect game.

So really, I can imagine Bayern showing Gomez the door if they really think they don't want/need a poacher anymore. But Lewandowski and Mandzukic are close enough IMHO.
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Post by Onyx Tue May 28, 2013 9:47 pm

The agent for Borussia Dortmund striker, Roberto Lewandowski, Cezary Kucharski has revealed that the Polish international will join Bayern Munich over Real Madrid and Manchester United this summer.

In an interview with Polish television station, TVN24, Kucharski revealed the striker’s summer plans to leave the club and move to arch-rivals, Bayern Munich, joining former Borussia Dortmund midfielder, Mario Goetz, who already agreed to a move a month ago.

“Yes. Robert will join Bayern this summer.

“There is no point in pretending that he will not move to Bayern. Robert wants to leave and that is what will happen.

“It is a matter of time. It could be a done deal within a week or within two to three weeks. We are waiting for a signal from the club. We are working on this deal.

“Robert needs a new challenge. He needs other people around him, a new coach and new motivation. For us it is clear, but we have not signed anything.”

Bayern Munich manager, Jupp Heynckes hinted at the move for Lewandowski in his post-match press conference following their Champions League title win, while other clubs who were once optimistic about their chances, will now look to other options.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue May 28, 2013 11:22 pm

Dortmund fans Sad


Watching the only team above them in the league use their own weapons against them Sad
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 28, 2013 11:46 pm

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:Dortmund fans Sad


Watching the only team above them in the league use their own weapons against them Sad

While giving them 70m to do it Laughing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 29, 2013 12:43 am

Yeah but you can't put a price on two of your best players smacking you about twice a year.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 29, 2013 12:51 am

Who says they are going to smack them about hmm

History tells us about players going back and looking rather stupid in the process.

I mean look at how many big stars Madrid have sold who have won the CL more than them in last decade lol.
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Post by LuckAndWin Wed May 29, 2013 2:21 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:The agent for Borussia Dortmund striker, Roberto Lewandowski, Cezary Kucharski has revealed that the Polish international will join Bayern Munich over Real Madrid and Manchester United this summer.

In an interview with Polish television station, TVN24, Kucharski revealed the striker’s summer plans to leave the club and move to arch-rivals, Bayern Munich, joining former Borussia Dortmund midfielder, Mario Goetz, who already agreed to a move a month ago.

“Yes. Robert will join Bayern this summer.

“There is no point in pretending that he will not move to Bayern. Robert wants to leave and that is what will happen.

“It is a matter of time. It could be a done deal within a week or within two to three weeks. We are waiting for a signal from the club. We are working on this deal.

“Robert needs a new challenge. He needs other people around him, a new coach and new motivation. For us it is clear, but we have not signed anything.”

Bayern Munich manager, Jupp Heynckes hinted at the move for Lewandowski in his post-match press conference following their Champions League title win, while other clubs who were once optimistic about their chances, will now look to other options.
Hmmm but Klopp claims no Bayern offer for Lewandowski yet. Suspect
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed May 29, 2013 3:07 pm

I would shut my mouth if I was that agent. He's forgetting BVB still need to approve a movw, or Lewa is staying another season.
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Post by EL Patron Wed May 29, 2013 3:12 pm

So when it happens to Dortmund its sad, when it happens to Arsenal they are a selling club Laughing
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed May 29, 2013 3:17 pm

EL Patron wrote:So when it happens to Dortmund its sad, when it happens to Arsenal they are a selling club Laughing

Those aren't mutually exclusive. It's sad that Arsenal are a selling club.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 29, 2013 3:20 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
EL Patron wrote:So when it happens to Dortmund its sad, when it happens to Arsenal they are a selling club Laughing

Those aren't mutually exclusive. It's sad that Arsenal are a selling club.

And the difference between the two?
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed May 29, 2013 3:34 pm

There is none. It's sad on both parts. Dortmund just have better scouts, and a hungrier manager, but compared to the likes of Bayern or Real they're both selling clubs. Which is sad.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 29, 2013 3:43 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:There is none. It's sad on both parts. Dortmund just have better scouts, and a hungrier manager, but compared to the likes of Bayern or Real they're both selling clubs. Which is sad.

But it wouldn't be accurate to call them selling clubs, Viva.

Selling clubs are ones that sell players out of personal choice for financial gain/stability such as Porto and Milan nowadays.

Arsenal and Dortmund are victim of overzealous individuals who choose bigger clubs for monetary reasons, easier routes to trophies etc.

Not by the choice of the club, hence why managers like Wenger and Kloppo are so vehement in their vested interests to keep their players, as they do have a substantial influence on the departure of a player.

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Post by EL Patron Wed May 29, 2013 3:45 pm

Arquitescu wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:There is none. It's sad on both parts. Dortmund just have better scouts, and a hungrier manager, but compared to the likes of Bayern or Real they're both selling clubs. Which is sad.

But it wouldn't be accurate to call them selling clubs, Viva.

Selling clubs are ones that sell players out of personal choice for financial gain/stability such as Porto and Milan nowadays.

Arsenal and Dortmund are victim of overzealous individuals who choose bigger clubs for monetary reasons, easier routes to trophies etc.

Not by the choice of the club, hence why managers like Wenger and Kloppo are so vehement in their vested interests to keep their players, as they do have a substantial influence on the departure of a player.


Well said
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 29, 2013 3:48 pm

There is a slight difference tbf.... Dortmund will use the money to strengthen the team.

Arsenal use their money to pay off the stadium.
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed May 29, 2013 3:49 pm

Well in that narrow definition they aren't and you're right.
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Post by EL Patron Wed May 29, 2013 4:19 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There is a slight difference tbf.... Dortmund will use the money to strengthen the team.

Arsenal use their money to pay off the stadium.

I am pretty sure, Dortmund have their debt to manage as well
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Post by Adit Wed May 29, 2013 4:20 pm

BVB are not getting 30 million for Lewandowski lol. When was the last time a player who is on his last year of contract went for 30 million?

Even RVP went for 24 mill and RVP is miles ahead of Lewa. Not to mention Bayern are in no hurry to get a new forward as their forward line is just fine.
They will be lucky to sell him for 20 mill euros.
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Post by Toffer Harley Wed May 29, 2013 4:28 pm

oh he will go for well over 20, be sure about that...
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Post by EL Patron Wed May 29, 2013 4:30 pm

Toffer Harley wrote:oh he will go for well over 20, be sure about that...

your gif rofl
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 29, 2013 4:35 pm

EL Patron wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There is a slight difference tbf.... Dortmund will use the money to strengthen the team.

Arsenal use their money to pay off the stadium.

I am pretty sure, Dortmund have their debt to manage as well

Pretty much all of it is paid now as far as i'm aware, not not mention how much money they have made of tv revenue and everything else this year.
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