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Re: Ze German Thread
Schürrle as a lone striker
LÖW Y U NO USE POLDI CENTRALLY?
LÖW Y U NO USE POLDI CENTRALLY?
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Re: Ze German Thread
Because usually there are Miro Klose and Mario Gómez available?urbaNRoots wrote:LÖW Y U NO USE POLDI CENTRALLY?
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Re: Ze German Thread
So? He can surely find some games to test him in his natural position. Not to mention that Gomez usually flops in the big matches and Klose isn't getting any younger. Klose should only be a super-sub. This change would also make one place for Schürrle/Reus who would add even more options in attack.
That's one of Löw's flaws actually. He's too predictable.
That's one of Löw's flaws actually. He's too predictable.
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Good that we do have international friendlies after allurbaNRoots wrote:So? He can surely find some games to test him in his natural position.
BTW, Gomez floppin in big matches is actually a myth. In the recently time he did score in many matches that mattered. Unfortunately he didn't manage to do it in ALL matches that mattered, but them, a team has 10 field players (10.5 if you have Neuer).
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Re: Ze German Thread
These are the players Joachim Löw called up for the WC2014 Qualifiers against Faroe Islands (in the AWD Arena in Hannover at 7 Sep 2012) and Austria (in the Ernst-Happel-Stadion in Vienna at 11 Sep 2012):
Goal:
Manuel Neuer [1] (FC Bayern München)
Marc-André ter Stegen [22] (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Ron-Robert Zieler [12] (Hannover 96)
Defense:
Holger Badstuber [14] (FC Bayern München)
Jérôme Boateng [20] (FC Bayern München)
Benedikt Höwedes [4] (FC Schalke 04)
Mats Hummels [5] (Borussia Dortmund)
Philipp Lahm [16] (FC Bayern München)
Per Mertesacker [17] (FC Arsenal)
Marcel Schmelzer [3] (Borussia Dortmund)
Midfield:
Lars Bender [15] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Julian Draxler [23] (FC Schalke 04)
Mario Götze [19] ( Borussia Dortmund)
Ilkay Gündoǵan [7] (Borussia Dortmund)
Sami Khedira [6] (Real Madrid)
Toni Kroos [18] (FC Bayern München)
Thomas Müller [13] (FC Bayern München)
Mesut Özil [8] (Real Madrid)
Lukas Podolski [10] (FC Arsenal)
Marco Reus [21] (Borussia Dortmund)
André Schürrle [9] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Attack:
Miroslav Klose [11] (Lazio Rom)
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Oh, and by the way, in the FIFA Ranking of 5 Sep 2012 we are still on the 2nd place. Looks we needs to work a bit more to get closer to Spain...
Top 10
1. Spain 1617
2. Germany 1437
3. England 1274
4. Portugal 1232
5. Uruguay 1217
6. Italy 1174
7. Argentina 1121
8. Netherlands 1044
9. Croatia 1020
10. Denmark 1006
Goal:
Manuel Neuer [1] (FC Bayern München)
Marc-André ter Stegen [22] (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Ron-Robert Zieler [12] (Hannover 96)
Defense:
Holger Badstuber [14] (FC Bayern München)
Jérôme Boateng [20] (FC Bayern München)
Benedikt Höwedes [4] (FC Schalke 04)
Mats Hummels [5] (Borussia Dortmund)
Philipp Lahm [16] (FC Bayern München)
Per Mertesacker [17] (FC Arsenal)
Marcel Schmelzer [3] (Borussia Dortmund)
Midfield:
Lars Bender [15] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Julian Draxler [23] (FC Schalke 04)
Mario Götze [19] ( Borussia Dortmund)
Ilkay Gündoǵan [7] (Borussia Dortmund)
Sami Khedira [6] (Real Madrid)
Toni Kroos [18] (FC Bayern München)
Thomas Müller [13] (FC Bayern München)
Mesut Özil [8] (Real Madrid)
Lukas Podolski [10] (FC Arsenal)
Marco Reus [21] (Borussia Dortmund)
André Schürrle [9] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Attack:
Miroslav Klose [11] (Lazio Rom)
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Oh, and by the way, in the FIFA Ranking of 5 Sep 2012 we are still on the 2nd place. Looks we needs to work a bit more to get closer to Spain...
Top 10
1. Spain 1617
2. Germany 1437
3. England 1274
4. Portugal 1232
5. Uruguay 1217
6. Italy 1174
7. Argentina 1121
8. Netherlands 1044
9. Croatia 1020
10. Denmark 1006
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Re: Ze German Thread
At 12:45 GMT+2 (in about 10 minutes) the DFB will hold the press conference before the start of the World Cup qualifiers with Hansi Flick, Philipp Lahm and Ilkay Gündoǵan. As usual a live stream is available at the DFB site.
Here you go: http://tv.dfb.de/live/index.php?live=322 (Language: German)
Here you go: http://tv.dfb.de/live/index.php?live=322 (Language: German)
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Hansi Flick:
- Toni Kroos is slightly injured and can't play against the Faroe Islands.
- Philipp Lahm will play RB, Marcel Schmelzer LB
- Marco Reus will play for sure
- 3 spots in the team for tomorrow are still undecided
- Hansi Flick would love to have some more options in the striker and fullback positions (looks like they don't consider Kießling etc at all)
Ilkay Gündogan:
- He would play for the U21 still if he would be asked, but of course he sees it as bigger honour to play for the A-Nationalmannschaft (senior team).
- The style of the NT will incorporate more characteristics of Dortmund which will fit better with the Dortmund players.
Philipp Lahm:
- He states again that he wants to win the World Cup 2014.
- The German NT wants to start well, even if the Faroe Islands will be very defensive and probably not so easy to play against.
- Lahm is happy that he can play RB now. He only played LB for the good of the NT, but he prefers to play RB.
- We are working to eradicate the tactical mistakes we made during the Euro.
- Lahm is the second oldest after Miro Klose at the moment and he is proud to be captain of the young team.
- It is something special to play in a team that is strong enough to compete for a title in each contest it enters, even if it doesn't manage to win it in the end.
- The German NT improves in dictating a match instead of just reacting and countering.
- Toni Kroos is slightly injured and can't play against the Faroe Islands.
- Philipp Lahm will play RB, Marcel Schmelzer LB
- Marco Reus will play for sure
- 3 spots in the team for tomorrow are still undecided
- Hansi Flick would love to have some more options in the striker and fullback positions (looks like they don't consider Kießling etc at all)
Ilkay Gündogan:
- He would play for the U21 still if he would be asked, but of course he sees it as bigger honour to play for the A-Nationalmannschaft (senior team).
- The style of the NT will incorporate more characteristics of Dortmund which will fit better with the Dortmund players.
Philipp Lahm:
- He states again that he wants to win the World Cup 2014.
- The German NT wants to start well, even if the Faroe Islands will be very defensive and probably not so easy to play against.
- Lahm is happy that he can play RB now. He only played LB for the good of the NT, but he prefers to play RB.
- We are working to eradicate the tactical mistakes we made during the Euro.
- Lahm is the second oldest after Miro Klose at the moment and he is proud to be captain of the young team.
- It is something special to play in a team that is strong enough to compete for a title in each contest it enters, even if it doesn't manage to win it in the end.
- The German NT improves in dictating a match instead of just reacting and countering.
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Re: Ze German Thread
So I assume it'll be Gündogan and Khedira as holding mids, I guess. I'm curious as to where Reus is going to be played...
But I do like the decision to try and play more like Dortmund, with the intense pressing high up the pitch, etc. - more pressure on the opposition means less pressure on us.
But I do like the decision to try and play more like Dortmund, with the intense pressing high up the pitch, etc. - more pressure on the opposition means less pressure on us.
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Germany U-19 vs. England U-19
Yesil, Sterling, and Morgan playing
Yesil, Sterling, and Morgan playing
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Thanks for reminding me! They show the match live at Sport1, and I just switched in to see Yesil's goal (in the second minute of the match XD). Bayer Leverkusen were truly stupid to sell him for an apple and an egg...Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Germany U-19 vs. England U-19
Yesil, Sterling, and Morgan playing
FT Germany U19 3:1 England U19
2 goals and 1 assist by Yesil. Nice job! The English goal was a beauty, too.
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Germany U21 vs Belarus U21 (Qualification match for the U21 Euro 2013 in Israel) just started.
Tasty line-up for Germany:
The German U21 won 8 of 8 matches so far in the qualifiers.
The subs:
Peniel Mlapa for Kevin Volland (46.)
Sebastian Polter for Moritz Leitner (68.)
Patrick Herrmann for Karim Bellarabi (68.)
Finally the 1:0 for Germany in the 58th minute by Maxi Beister (HSV) after the Czech ref already denied us two clear penalties. It's a very taxing match as Belarus mixed quite a bit of concrete there so far and defended well with two solid walls of 4.
So, the 3rd call for a penalty (hand this time) was finally given. Moritz Leitner (Borussia Dortmund) scores with a confident shot in the 63th minute and it is 2:0.
In the 75th minute the 3:0 by Sebastian Polter (1.FC Nürnberg) after a great assist from Patrick Herrmann (Borussia M'gladbach).
FT Germany U21 3:0 Belarus U 21
9th win in the 9th qualification match. Nice job!
Tasty line-up for Germany:
Leno
Jantschke - Kirchhoff - Sobiech - Thesker
Leitner - Rode
Beister - Holtby (c) - Bellarabi
Volland
Jantschke - Kirchhoff - Sobiech - Thesker
Leitner - Rode
Beister - Holtby (c) - Bellarabi
Volland
The German U21 won 8 of 8 matches so far in the qualifiers.
The subs:
Peniel Mlapa for Kevin Volland (46.)
Sebastian Polter for Moritz Leitner (68.)
Patrick Herrmann for Karim Bellarabi (68.)
Finally the 1:0 for Germany in the 58th minute by Maxi Beister (HSV) after the Czech ref already denied us two clear penalties. It's a very taxing match as Belarus mixed quite a bit of concrete there so far and defended well with two solid walls of 4.
So, the 3rd call for a penalty (hand this time) was finally given. Moritz Leitner (Borussia Dortmund) scores with a confident shot in the 63th minute and it is 2:0.
In the 75th minute the 3:0 by Sebastian Polter (1.FC Nürnberg) after a great assist from Patrick Herrmann (Borussia M'gladbach).
FT Germany U21 3:0 Belarus U 21
9th win in the 9th qualification match. Nice job!
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Only just found this thread again...
Any information about Yesil you could educate me about? I've only seen the highlights of the 3-1 win against the England u/21's at the moment... seems like a classy player.
Any information about Yesil you could educate me about? I've only seen the highlights of the 3-1 win against the England u/21's at the moment... seems like a classy player.
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Well, Samed Yesil is considered to be one of the greatest striker talents of his age in Germany. It is not exactly clear why Leverkusen sold him for practically just an apple and an egg. There are always talks about some buy-back clause, but this is obviously kept well under wraps and I haven't found out anything proper about it.
BTW, there are some rumours that is agent Reza Fazeli might have had some hand in all of it as he is renowned for trying to look for transfers for his players that are most profitable for him. So it is well likely that he might see Liverpool as a stepping stone to create an even more lucrative transfer afterwards as the transfers within the BL usually are a bit more reasonable than especially in England.
As a player, Yesil always looked very good in the German U17 NT, U18 NT and also now in the U19 NT. He didn't quite make the jump to the first team of Bayer yet and only sat on the Bench 4 times for the seniors as he was playing for the Bayer II team so far. I think he will probably stay with the Liverpool reserves for the time being, too, as he is yet unproven with the seniors. But IMO he is a really promising lad as a player. I'd be just wary about his agent.
BTW, there are some rumours that is agent Reza Fazeli might have had some hand in all of it as he is renowned for trying to look for transfers for his players that are most profitable for him. So it is well likely that he might see Liverpool as a stepping stone to create an even more lucrative transfer afterwards as the transfers within the BL usually are a bit more reasonable than especially in England.
As a player, Yesil always looked very good in the German U17 NT, U18 NT and also now in the U19 NT. He didn't quite make the jump to the first team of Bayer yet and only sat on the Bench 4 times for the seniors as he was playing for the Bayer II team so far. I think he will probably stay with the Liverpool reserves for the time being, too, as he is yet unproven with the seniors. But IMO he is a really promising lad as a player. I'd be just wary about his agent.
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Re: Ze German Thread
In the U20 World Cup final in Japan, Germany U20 is taking on USA U20 right now. The German team scored 15 goals in the 5 matches so far and allowed not a single goal in. Go Germany!!
Gahhh. FT USA 1:0 Germany. A goal by Ohai in the 44th minute was enough to give the USA the gold medal today.
In the 3rd place match, Japan U20 defeated Nigeria U20 and took the bronze medal, btw.
Gahhh. FT USA 1:0 Germany. A goal by Ohai in the 44th minute was enough to give the USA the gold medal today.
In the 3rd place match, Japan U20 defeated Nigeria U20 and took the bronze medal, btw.
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Thanks for the insight rwo. Looking forward to Yesil breaking through at Liverpool. We have no "strikers" (Suarez is a SS) at the club; so he'll most likely be given a chance.
*Regarding this option with Leverkusen, not sure if it's true or not, but apparently Leverkusen has first option to buy him if we decide to sell him. There's apparently no buy back option as we can refuse their offer but Leverkusen gets the first option.
*All rumours. Nothing official.
*Regarding this option with Leverkusen, not sure if it's true or not, but apparently Leverkusen has first option to buy him if we decide to sell him. There's apparently no buy back option as we can refuse their offer but Leverkusen gets the first option.
*All rumours. Nothing official.
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Still don't understand why Schurrle gets called to the senior team and Holtby doesnt. Holtby was better for Mainz when they were both there, and is just as, if not better for Schalke than Schurrle is for Bayer. At least from what I've seen.
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Simple. Lewis Holtby is the U21 captain and Rainer Adrion wants the U21 to qualify for the Euro2013 in Israel. Holtby is playing a very important role in that team, and he is more valuable there than possibly on the bench of the A-Nationalmannschaft. And if you remember what became of the U21 that won the Euro in 2009, I don't think it is any cause for alarm if Holtby plays for them a little bit longer.juventus101 wrote:Still don't understand why Schurrle gets called to the senior team and Holtby doesnt. Holtby was better for Mainz when they were both there, and is just as, if not better for Schalke than Schurrle is for Bayer. At least from what I've seen.
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ATM the German U21 play the last Euro qualifier match before the play-offs against Bosnia-Herzegovina U21 in Sarajevo.
Germany U21:
Leno
S.Jung - Sobiech - Kirchhoff - Sorg
Funk - Rudy
Vukcevic - Leitner - Herrmann
Mlapa
Bench:
Trapp (GK), Se. Neumann, Hornschuh, Bellarabi, Polter, Thesker, Volland
10.) 1:0 (Djuric, assist Stevanovic)
21.) 1:1 (Kirchhoff, assist Leitner)
23.) 2:1 (Djuric, assist Markic)
38.) 3:1 (Djuric, assist Stevanovic)
58.) 3:2 (Polter, assist Kirchhoff)
65.) 3:3 (Leitner)
74.) 4:3 (Grahovac, assist Djuric)
87.) 4:4 (Polter, assist Volland)
FT Bosnia-Herzegovina U21 4:4 Germany U21
What a match!!
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/u21-em/em-qualifikation-u-21/2011-12/15/1130236/livematch_deutschland-3096_bosnien-herzegowina-u-21.html
Germany U21:
Leno
S.Jung - Sobiech - Kirchhoff - Sorg
Funk - Rudy
Vukcevic - Leitner - Herrmann
Mlapa
Bench:
Trapp (GK), Se. Neumann, Hornschuh, Bellarabi, Polter, Thesker, Volland
10.) 1:0 (Djuric, assist Stevanovic)
21.) 1:1 (Kirchhoff, assist Leitner)
23.) 2:1 (Djuric, assist Markic)
38.) 3:1 (Djuric, assist Stevanovic)
58.) 3:2 (Polter, assist Kirchhoff)
65.) 3:3 (Leitner)
74.) 4:3 (Grahovac, assist Djuric)
87.) 4:4 (Polter, assist Volland)
FT Bosnia-Herzegovina U21 4:4 Germany U21
What a match!!
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/u21-em/em-qualifikation-u-21/2011-12/15/1130236/livematch_deutschland-3096_bosnien-herzegowina-u-21.html
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Re: Ze German Thread
what a save from Badstuber...best german defender
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Oh my... All in all, we were horrible, and very lucky to get this quite undeserved win... I hope we improve. A LOT.
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Re: Ze German Thread
For those who speak German - the Sueddeutsche Zeitung has some very fitting critiques of the German players:
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/dfb-elf-in-der-einzelkritik-helfernaturen-verwirrte-und-eckfahnen-imitatoren-1.1465372
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/dfb-elf-in-der-einzelkritik-helfernaturen-verwirrte-und-eckfahnen-imitatoren-1.1465372
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Yesil > Gomez.
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For the WorldCup qualifiers against Ireland (Dublin, Friday 12 Oct 2012, 20:45 GMT+2) and Sweden (Berlin, Tuesday 16 Oct 2012, 20:45 GMT+2), Joachim Löw called up the following players:
Goal:
Manuel Neuer [1] (Bayern München)
Marc-André ter Stegen [22] (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Ron-Robert Zieler [12] (Hannover 96)
Abwehr:
Holger Badstuber [14] (Bayern München)
Jerome Boateng [20] (Bayern München)
Benedikt Höwedes [4] (Schalke 04)
Mats Hummels [5] (Borussia Dortmund)
Philipp Lahm [16] (Bayern München)
Per Mertesacker [17] (FC Arsenal)
Marcel Schmelzer [3] (Borussia Dortmund)
Midfield
Lars Bender [15] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Mario Götze [19] (Borussia Dortmund)
Sami Khedira [8] (Real Madrid)
Toni Kroos [18] (Bayern München )
Thomas Müller [13] (Bayern München)
Mesut Özil [8] (Real Madrid)
Lukas Podolski [10] (FC Arsenal)
Marco Reus [21] (Borussia Dortmund)
André Schürrle [9] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Bastian Schweinsteiger [7] (Bayern München)
Attack:
Miroslav Klose [11] (Lazio Rom)
Julian Draxler and Ilkay Gündogan miss out due to injuries they suffered in the Champions League matches this Wednesday.
Source: http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=128
Goal:
Manuel Neuer [1] (Bayern München)
Marc-André ter Stegen [22] (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Ron-Robert Zieler [12] (Hannover 96)
Abwehr:
Holger Badstuber [14] (Bayern München)
Jerome Boateng [20] (Bayern München)
Benedikt Höwedes [4] (Schalke 04)
Mats Hummels [5] (Borussia Dortmund)
Philipp Lahm [16] (Bayern München)
Per Mertesacker [17] (FC Arsenal)
Marcel Schmelzer [3] (Borussia Dortmund)
Midfield
Lars Bender [15] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Mario Götze [19] (Borussia Dortmund)
Sami Khedira [8] (Real Madrid)
Toni Kroos [18] (Bayern München )
Thomas Müller [13] (Bayern München)
Mesut Özil [8] (Real Madrid)
Lukas Podolski [10] (FC Arsenal)
Marco Reus [21] (Borussia Dortmund)
André Schürrle [9] (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Bastian Schweinsteiger [7] (Bayern München)
Attack:
Miroslav Klose [11] (Lazio Rom)
Julian Draxler and Ilkay Gündogan miss out due to injuries they suffered in the Champions League matches this Wednesday.
Source: http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=128
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Germany U21 NT have to play two playoff matches against the Switzerland U21 NT to qualify for the U21 Euro 2013 in Israel. They will take place on Oct 12 in Leverkusen (18:00 GMT+2) and Oct 16 in Luzern (17:30 GMT+2).
Germany U21 NT call-up:
Goal:
Oliver Baumann (SC Freiburg)
Bernd Leno (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Kevin Trapp (Eintracht Frankfurt)
Defense:
Marc Hornschuh (Borussia Dortmund)
Tony Jantschke (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Sebastian Jung (Eintracht Frankfurt)
Jan Kirchhoff (FSV Mainz 05 )
Sebastian Neumann (VfL Osnabrück)
Lasse Sobiech (SpVgg Greuther Fürth)
Stefan Thesker (1899 Hoffenheim)
Midfield:
Patrick Funk (FC St. Pauli)
Lewis Holtby (FC Schalke 04)
Moritz Leitner (Borussia Dortmund)
Christoph Moritz (FC Schalke 04)
Sebastian Rode (Eintracht Frankfurt)
Sebastian Rudy (1899 Hoffenheim)
Attack:
Maximilian Beister (Hamburger SV)
Karim Bellarabi (Bayer Leverkusen)
Alexander Esswein (1. FC Nürnberg)
Peniel Mlapa (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Sebastian Polter (1. FC Nürnberg)
Kevin Volland (1899 Hoffenheim)
Germany U21 NT call-up:
Goal:
Oliver Baumann (SC Freiburg)
Bernd Leno (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Kevin Trapp (Eintracht Frankfurt)
Defense:
Marc Hornschuh (Borussia Dortmund)
Tony Jantschke (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
Sebastian Jung (Eintracht Frankfurt)
Jan Kirchhoff (FSV Mainz 05 )
Sebastian Neumann (VfL Osnabrück)
Lasse Sobiech (SpVgg Greuther Fürth)
Stefan Thesker (1899 Hoffenheim)
Midfield:
Patrick Funk (FC St. Pauli)
Lewis Holtby (FC Schalke 04)
Moritz Leitner (Borussia Dortmund)
Christoph Moritz (FC Schalke 04)
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